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Caufman: May 7, 2007

Bolow posted:

you know the first thing that popped into my head was "wow he actually could recognize the afghan flag"

Shocking, we'll have been fighting the war on terror for so long that soon Americans will reliably be able to locate Iraq and Afghanistan on a map.

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 05:57

Soulex: Apr 1, 2009; Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

mods change my name posted:

I think the question is fine

Do you think Trump is racist, or not?
Yes, He Is Racist
No He is Not

???

Quinnipiac is fine

Well again, it's the wording. It's a front loaded question that offers 3 options (5 is safer and allows for 'somewhat' answers). Most research I have experience with regarding questions is just a college class, but we did a few reports and questionnaires.

Basically the wording is ambiguous and is up to the reader to decode. "Dont you think he is racist?" Would be fine except that it leads the question into an (probably correct) assumption. The adding to the end is really what gets me because it says basically 'or dont you'at the end. That part can be removed imo. I'm pretty sure some people saw the 'dont' and thought that meant 'I dont think hes a racist, so yes' we have all seen a lot stupider happen.

Maybe the results are fine, but they threw up flags for me is all. I've been reading a lot of studies recently and the questions just weren't as clear as they could have been.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 02:05

FrozenVent: May 1, 2009; The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Soulex posted:

Most research I have experience with regarding questions is just a college class, but we did a few reports and questionnaires.

It�s Quinnipiac.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 02:41

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

FrozenVent posted:

It�s Quinnipiac.

Then they shouldn't have to be making a word quota.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 02:58

iKon: Oct 4, 2000; CAN'T TEST
WON'T TEST

Guys guys shut up, the dude who took a political science course is telling us how Quinnipiac�s cadre of full time pollsters can do their jobs better.

Oh wait, what I meant was :allears:

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:20

Ragaman: Feb 6, 2002; Title? I dont need no stinkin' Title

Aside from being well known for being pretty reliable, the folks at 538 give Quinnipiac an A- when considering it's accuracy and methodology. Most of us know this but...

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:22

Nostalgia4Infinity: Feb 27, 2007; 10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

Soulex posted:

Well again, it's the wording. It's a front loaded question that offers 3 options (5 is safer and allows for 'somewhat' answers). Most research I have experience with regarding questions is just a college class, but we did a few reports and questionnaires.

Basically the wording is ambiguous and is up to the reader to decode. "Dont you think he is racist?" Would be fine except that it leads the question into an (probably correct) assumption. The adding to the end is really what gets me because it says basically 'or dont you'at the end. That part can be removed imo. I'm pretty sure some people saw the 'dont' and thought that meant 'I dont think hes a racist, so yes' we have all seen a lot stupider happen.

Maybe the results are fine, but they threw up flags for me is all. I've been reading a lot of studies recently and the questions just weren't as clear as they could have been.

Honey no... just no... please stop while you're ahead :cripes:

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:24

Fister Roboto: Feb 21, 2008

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Honey no... just no... please stop while you're ahead

lol that avatar owns

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:25

Handsome Ralph: Sep 3, 2004; Oh boy, posting!
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Fister Roboto posted:

lol that avatar owns

Haha holy poo poo yes it does.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:30

Third World Reagan: May 19, 2008; Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1014331781653450753

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:32

Riot Carol Danvers: Jul 30, 2004; It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Honey no... just no... please stop while you're ahead

Perfect first post with that av

Third World Reggin posted:

https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1014331781653450753

Riot Carol Danvers fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jul 4, 2018

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:32

Nostalgia4Butts: Jun 1, 2006; WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

That av holy poo poo

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:47

Laranzu: Jan 18, 2002

Why the gently caress is everyone so fast to defend an awful ambiguously worded lovely question just because it confirms our ( probably 100% correct ) assumptions? Sure the organization is good, but the intern working this might suck. Everyone has bad days.

It's a lovely question where you can actually answer yes to either part.

"Do you think Donald Trump is a racist (yes) , or don't you think so? (Yes) "

A poll question should never be designed that way. It is actually a bad question.

Can it be controlled for? Probably.
Is it even a control itself? Who knows?
Are they using it to farm statistics they want? Maybe too.

Is falling over yourself to White Knight the poor polling organization idiotic? Def.

Someone who uses Twitter go tag 538 and ask them their thoughts. Isn't that how this social media thing works?

Laranzu fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Jul 4, 2018

# ? Jul 4, 2018 03:48

facialimpediment: Feb 11, 2005; as the world turns

Just a side note: question wording is one of the most difficult things a pollster does, so it's likely not an intern-designed thing. The interns likely run the interviews off the script, since any little word prompt in the question, from "Republican" to "Democrat" to "right track / wrong track" can throw poo poo off.

Here's a very recent result, for the child separation immigration policy:

https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/1011336982994309121

The polling goes wildly between -21 to -50 on the issue, depending on the sample, field date, question wording, survey methodology, etc. And that's how most of these go when they get aggregated!

So, Quinnipiac is a very good pollster that tends to lean a few points Democratic as a house effect, if I remember correctly. You shouldn't listen to them alone and you shouldn't listen to any pollster alone.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 04:03

Relentlessboredomm: Oct 15, 2006; It's Sic Semper Tyrannis. You said, "Ever faithful terrible lizard."

facialimpediment posted:

Here's a very recent result, for the child separation immigration policy:

https://twitter.com/aedwardslevy/status/1011336982994309121

The polling goes wildly between -21 to -50 on the issue, depending on the sample, field date, question wording, survey methodology, etc. And that's how most of these go when they get aggregated!

The plus side is even with a 29 pt difference between the two extremes there's one thing we can say with a reasonable degree of certainty. Family separation is NOT a popular policy.

poo poo do Americans have souls?

*looks at the ~30% that support it*

poo poo do some Americans have souls?

# ? Jul 4, 2018 04:33

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Relentlessboredomm posted:

poo poo do some Americans have souls?

Or do they not?

# ? Jul 4, 2018 04:35

Suicide Watch: Sep 8, 2009

If you're talking about 30% of Americans... https://www.dailydot.com/via/dumb-things-30-percent-america-believes/

Wasn't there a comedian's piece on how 30% of Americans are always going to believe in the most disgustingly hopeless idea?

# ? Jul 4, 2018 04:59

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

Suicide Watch posted:

If you're talking about 30% of Americans... https://www.dailydot.com/via/dumb-things-30-percent-america-believes/

Wasn't there a comedian's piece on how 30% of Americans are always going to believe in the most disgustingly hopeless idea?

no that's just reality

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:06

AreWeDrunkYet: Jul 8, 2006

Suicide Watch posted:

If you're talking about 30% of Americans... https://www.dailydot.com/via/dumb-things-30-percent-america-believes/

Wasn't there a comedian's piece on how 30% of Americans are always going to believe in the most disgustingly hopeless idea?

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/The-312/April-2011/The-Alan-Keyes-Constant/

Or the actual source- http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html?m=1

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jul 4, 2018

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:11

Godholio: Aug 28, 2002; Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Suicide Watch posted:

If you're talking about 30% of Americans... https://www.dailydot.com/via/dumb-things-30-percent-america-believes/

Wasn't there a comedian's piece on how 30% of Americans are always going to believe in the most disgustingly hopeless idea?

George Carlin had: "Think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half of them are stupider than that."

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:21

Soulex: Apr 1, 2009; Cacati in mano e pigliati a schiaffi!

FrozenVent posted:

It’s Quinnipiac.

I'll be honest, dont know who they are. We didn't look at their material in class.

iKon posted:

Guys guys shut up, the dude who took a political science course is telling us how Quinnipiac’s cadre of full time pollsters can do their jobs better.

Oh wait, what I meant was

Nope, intro to research methods. Basically, we dove into the process of how these things get done. Im not a poly sci major either. I am in communication studies. Since we were communication students, one of the things we got hit on the most was our questionnaires.

That's why I'm, again, focusing on the questions wording and not the content. I think he is a racist piece of poo poo.

I also have the right to question facts. I'm ok with learning the truth and being proved wrong. There is a lot of disinformation out there that makes it difficult to accept news without confirming it from multiple sources or asking questions that should be answered.

But got it. They are reputable. Still wrote that question like crap.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 05:29

Dance Officer: May 4, 2017; It would be awesome if we could dance!

Cugel the Clever posted:

Child marriage is totally still a thing in the United States and is rabidly defended by major Christian groups as their god's will. Most states will marry 16 and up with "parental consent" (even if the child appears to have been coerced into the arrangement) and many states have no lower limit so long as there is a judge who will wave it through.

I've never understood why politicians don't target obvious awfulness like this and then campaign like hell on their victory over it. "My opponent disingenuously whines about the deficit, while I've gotten poo poo done for America: abolishing child marriage, daylight savings time, and coins in denominations under 25 cents!"

To the surprise of virtually no one this is only in deep red states and people have definitely campaigned against it.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 06:17

Brute Squad: Dec 20, 2006; Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Dance Officer posted:

To the surprise of virtually no one this is only in deep red states and people have definitely campaigned against it.

Noted deep red states like California and Colorado.

http://www.tahirih.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2018-State-Marriage-Age-Requirements-Statutory-Compilation.pdf

But fortunately, progress is being made.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...b6b1_story.html

# ? Jul 4, 2018 06:50

Dance Officer: May 4, 2017; It would be awesome if we could dance!

Brute Squad posted:

Noted deep red states like California and Colorado.

http://www.tahirih.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/2018-State-Marriage-Age-Requirements-Statutory-Compilation.pdf

But fortunately, progress is being made.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...b6b1_story.html

Shows how much I know. Wasn't it in Maryland where hard right Christian family rights folks struck down the law to make this illegal on the grounds that the family should decide if their kid can/has to marry, and not the judge?

# ? Jul 4, 2018 08:27

EBB: Feb 15, 2005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoLywiaM6PA

# ? Jul 4, 2018 11:05

EBB: Feb 15, 2005

oh wait i forgot im a secret tankie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POH14-HMGFc

# ? Jul 4, 2018 11:06

aphid_licker: Jan 7, 2009

I'm a radical Stalinist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PXCM3e-SMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDoTR5Aaa9A

e: ok this is the one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDoTR5Aaa9A

e: vvvv nice

aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Jul 4, 2018

# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:19

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

aphid_licker posted:

I'm a radical Stalinist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PXCM3e-SMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDoTR5Aaa9A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTKj5h5WHTo&t=17s

# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:23

Comrade Blyatlov: Aug 4, 2007; should have picked four fingers

happy freedom day assholes

# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:46

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

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# ? Jul 4, 2018 12:54

SquirrelyPSU: May 27, 2003

https://twitter.com/wgal/status/1014499122521485312?s=21

USPS hosed up, used a stock photo of the Statue of Liberty from Vegas, have to repay the guy that originally took the photo 3.5 million.

# ? Jul 4, 2018 14:32