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I'm so opposed to canon I treat each frame of a movie as a separate and discrete entity. Soon I will become so powerful I will see each pixel in each frame as an cosmos unto itself.
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OctoberCountry posted:"Canon" has never been anything but a marketing scam. How is it a scam? What's wrong with telling more than one story in the same continuity?
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Jul 4, 2018 18:55
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jivjov posted:How is it a scam? What's wrong with telling more than one story in the same continuity? Nothing. But if you take it too seriously it means they got you. As in they want to buy the canon books, watch the canon shows, get the canon toys, all to get the full picture. It’s one thing to have a single solid story that runs through a series, but it’s another to make you seek out outside material to understand the full picture.
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Jul 4, 2018 18:58
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Kinda like making you seek out Episode VIII to continue the story from Episode VII? The canon materials aren't "outside". They're all Star Wars
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jivjov posted:How is it a scam? What's wrong with telling more than one story in the same continuity? I can't tell if you're trolling or not, but if you are I like the gimmick keep it up
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Jul 4, 2018 19:00
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jivjov posted:Kinda like making you seek out Episode VIII to continue the story from Episode VII? The canon materials aren't "outside". They're all Star Wars One Star Wars is mainstream the other is for the hardest of the hardcore fanatics. They have the name Star Wars but most people ain’t gonna buy the story about Poe Dameron farting at a wedding.
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CelticPredator posted:They were making fun of you because the books are trash and no one but hard cores read that stuff. Yes. Those who post pages of analysis in the Star Wars thread about Star Wars are not in fact hard cores. It is the children who watch Rebels because it's a fun cartoon. They must be hated.
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Jul 4, 2018 19:46
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Natural 20 posted:It is the children who watch Rebels because it's a fun cartoon. Not true Star Wars fans, obviously. At the very least, they don't understand that they actually hate the cartoon and are just pretending to enjoy it reflexively. Obviously.
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Jul 4, 2018 19:53
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Rebels is alright. Between it and the short lived but quality TRON cartoon a few years ago Disney has actually had a pretty okay run of making television spinoffs of their sci-fi properties.
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porfiria posted:Reginald Val Johnson is black... This is why sociopolitical context is important. A cop shoots a kid in downtown LA, 1988, for ‘having something in his hand’. What race is the kid? Why is Sgt. Powell specifically broken up about it enough to almost quit the force, yet has received no other repercussions for his ‘mistake’? (Going into the specific themes of the film, the youngest character in the conflict is of course the heroic Argyle - the limo driver.) In TLJ, Kylo Ren is specifically striving to be like Vader - specifically trying to finish what Vader started. As established earlier, Vader’s goal was to end the injustice of the Republic-Empire and free the slaves. To prevent Kylo from being the unambiguous hero of the film, I guess, he is written as all too human - struggling to resist the various temptations the universe offers up. People are promising him a job, a happy family, a girlfriend, etc. - all if he gives up his devotion to Christ. This is what is meant by ‘seduction by the light’, and he is not very good at avoiding it. His is a hardcore fundamentalist approach, which is why he falls in with Snoke - but it’s also why he is also able to overcome Snoke.
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Jul 4, 2018 20:33
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Timby posted:Holy, holy, holy gently caress, bitching about droid rights is more readable than pages of litigating Luke Skywalker's actions.  Wellya dontknow watya GOT..... 'til its gaww-nn~
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Jul 4, 2018 21:14
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Quit picking on jivjov.Slutitution posted:gently caress Jar Jar Binks, though. Jar Jar Binks is a hero.
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Bongo Bill posted:Quit picking on jivjov. By the livin’ Force that made you, You’re a better man than I am, Jar Jar!
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Bongo Bill posted:Quit picking on jivjov. And a bad senator
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Bongo Bill posted:Quit picking on jivjov.. I’m not. But I don’t want him to get mad fun of but not get it.
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Jul 4, 2018 22:16
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The most important and relevant thing is that the name Sheev is hilarious and rules, and should always be used.
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Agreed so much.
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Do you think it's short for "Sheeven"
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Jul 4, 2018 22:48
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I'd say it can be, but his parents specifically named him "Sheev Palpatine"
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Jul 4, 2018 22:51
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Fun fact: Sheev was formerly the Naboo equivalent of a stock-car racer
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Clevin Pastatine
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I liked it better when his name was Frank.
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K. Waste posted:Fandom is a mental disorder.
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josh04 posted:I'd say it can be, but his parents specifically named him "Sheev Palpatine" Sheev Palpatine, Emperor of the Galatic Empire, Supreme Chancellor of the Galatic Republic, Senator for Naboo, Darth Sidious of the Dark Lords of the Sith. Just his obvious titles are 
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RBA Starblade posted:And a bad senator That's kind of the point. He starts off as a goofy but innocent characters and ends up a corrupt politician like any other. The republic (and our heroes) corrupted him.
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MonsieurChoc posted:That's kind of the point. He starts off as a goofy but innocent characters and ends up a corrupt politician like any other. The republic (and our heroes) corrupted him. The problem is that "be a Senator" (ie, be given an influential job in the Republic) is the only way they can imagine someone being helped.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:26
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Is there some sort of Google Alert I can set for when the internet decides that The Last Jedi is a really, really good movie and I can just read about how rad it is all day?
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Jul 5, 2018 03:46
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Timeless Appeal posted:Is there some sort of Google Alert I can set for when the internet decides that The Last Jedi is a really, really good movie and I can just read about how rad it is all day? No, you're going to have to hold out for the catharsis of the third act of the ST. And all the arguing over if that was good, etc.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:56
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Google can't help you. Last Jedi is merely decent, better than Force Awakens, but only barely.
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RBA Starblade posted:And a bad senator Binks is actually insanely good at being senator, which becomes a problem when his unrequited love for Padme makes the Seperatists into his enemy.
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Jul 5, 2018 03:58
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Timeless Appeal posted:Is there some sort of Google Alert I can set for when the internet decides that The Last Jedi is a really, really good movie and I can just read about how rad it is all day? If I have to do the work of telling people that the prequels are good, you have to do the work of telling people that The Last Jedi is good.
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Blood Boils posted:Google can't help you. Last Jedi is merely decent, better than Force Awakens, but only barely.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Is there some sort of Google Alert I can set for when the internet decides that The Last Jedi is a really, really good movie and I can just read about how rad it is all day? You’ll be waiting forever because that will never happen.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Nah, I'm pretty sure that The Last Jedi is a live action Miyazaki movie that has a pretty nuanced view of forgiveness and the difference between destruction and rebirth. Ok: what are the nuances of forgiveness? What is the difference between destruction and rebirth?
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Binks is actually insanely good at being senator, which becomes a problem when his unrequited love for Padme makes the Seperatists into his enemy. I think it works better if his love for her is actually totally pure and selfless, not even romantic.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:42
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Quote-Unquote posted:The actor that played Jar Jar Binks considered suicide after getting so much hate mail (including death threats for "ruining a childhood") Patton Oswalt had a long, horribly unfunny bit about how he wanted to beat George Lucas to death with a shovel because of JarJar Binks. Star Wars fans have always been toxic shits.
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Jul 5, 2018 04:54
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wyoming posted:Patton Oswalt had a long, horribly unfunny bit about how he wanted to beat George Lucas to death with a shovel because of JarJar Binks. At least that's directed toward the actual creator/writer of the character instead of the actor (not that I condone death threat-style "comedy")
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wyoming posted:Patton Oswalt had a long, horribly unfunny bit about how he wanted to beat George Lucas to death with a shovel because of JarJar Binks. That bit is great (you see, he doesn't actually want to beat GL to death with a shovel). I think the billionaire capitalist scumbag can take it.
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jivjov posted:At least that's directed toward the actual creator/writer of the character instead of the actor (not that I condone death threat-style "comedy") why does that make it better
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