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Takezio posted:I've always wondered if the person who wrote that had a sibling, but I've been too scared/lazy to check. And speaking from personal experience, that being your first exposure to Wanda and Pietro makes you actively fight your brain with expectations for a bit until you get the hang of the difference between Ultimate and 616. I always assumed they were playing off the fact that for a long time in 616, Pietro was overprotective of Wanda to the point where people made comments and jokes about them being lovers despite their blood relation.
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Hold up. It's really hot here, and I just walked home from a long day at work, still a little hungover from last night's festivities, so maybe I'm not seeing straight. There was an incest romance in a major Marvel title? And other characters (other than Cap, I guess) who were cool with it? Can someone summarize this briefly, please?
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Jul 5, 2018 18:38
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Hold up. It's really hot here, and I just walked home from a long day at work, still a little hungover from last night's festivities, so maybe I'm not seeing straight. It was in an Ultimate title (so, while major, not the "real" versions). Cap was not actually cool with it, if I recall (though I want to say the other characters reacted to him as "out of touch" for it? It's been awhile since I read that awful series). There's not much more to it.
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Isn't ultimate nightcrawler a massive homophobe? For that matter, is there anyone in the ultimate universe who isn't an enormous jackass?
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Jul 5, 2018 18:47
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Keeshhound posted:Isn't ultimate nightcrawler a massive homophobe? For that matter, is there anyone in the ultimate universe who isn't an enormous jackass? Presumably Ultimate Hitler would have hit the overflow point on assholery and ended up as that universe's Mr. Rogers instead.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:49
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It’s on Ultimates 3, issue 1. They immediately kill Wanda on that same issue (and resolving the murder is the plot of the series) so they don’t really dwell much on the incest other than pointing it out before immediately getting rid of it. Then Magneto kills everyone and Blob eats Janet.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:50
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:
Sounds like he really was right.
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Keeshhound posted:Isn't ultimate nightcrawler a massive homophobe? For that matter, is there anyone in the ultimate universe who isn't an enormous jackass? That was actually one of the things I remember most about Ultimate X-Men when Kirkman took over - Ultimate Nightcrawler hadn't been a homophobe or even religious beforehand, then Colossus starts a relationship with Northstar and all of a sudden Nightcrawler's brooding about how "Peter has become an abomination!  " but even so, I don't think they actually got any drama out of it or anything, it's just a few of scenes of Nightcrawler grousing about it to a comatose character.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:55
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Keeshhound posted:For that matter, is there anyone in the ultimate universe who isn't an enormous jackass? If they were, they were probably in a Spider-book
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Jul 5, 2018 18:57
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Wheat Loaf posted:That was actually one of the things I remember most about Ultimate X-Men when Kirkman took over - Ultimate Nightcrawler hadn't been a homophobe or even religious beforehand, then Colossus starts a relationship with Northstar and all of a sudden Nightcrawler's brooding about how "Peter has become an abomination! He also kidnaps Ultimate Dazzler (who's a punk rocker), hides her in a cave and pretends the X-Men are under attack in an attempt to get her to love him.
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Jul 5, 2018 18:58
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So why is Ultimate Spiderman the only sane Ultimates title?
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Jul 5, 2018 19:00
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Keeshhound posted:Isn't ultimate nightcrawler a massive homophobe? For that matter, is there anyone in the ultimate universe who isn't an enormous jackass? Most of the characters in Spider-Man, Thor, members of The Fantastic Four not named Reed Richards
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Jul 5, 2018 19:00
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Infinitum posted:So why is Ultimate Spiderman the only sane Ultimates title? It's Bendis writing a Spider-Man storyline because he wants to. The rest of the Ultimate line was "take the existing characters, but make them badass and extreme".
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Infinitum posted:So why is Ultimate Spiderman the only sane Ultimates title? Mark Millar's stuff was hit or miss, but had some pretty good hits. Anything by Bendis is decently readable, same with Warren Ellis. Hickman's stuff that was supposed to be a sorta re-boot of the title until they took him off because he was too good of a writer for a book that no one reads was really, really good. Actually, the Ultimate FF book was pretty consistently good except there's some Greg Land art, (which is also the part that features Mark Millar's strongest writing sadly). X-Men was good until Kirkman. As I already said Warren Ellis wrote a bunch of minis and those were all good.
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Wheat Loaf posted:That was actually one of the things I remember most about Ultimate X-Men when Kirkman took over - Ultimate Nightcrawler hadn't been a homophobe or even religious beforehand...
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Ultimates 1 and 2 are actually really good (YMMV based on taste, I guess). They're grittier but they're not "badass x-treme!", the characters are for the most part meant to be flawed people who are irresponsibly playing at being heroes due to their personal neuroses. Most of the realistic touches are less, "gore! blood! sex!" and more, "Iron Man needs an entire pre-flight team to launch his armour and he takes a stiff drink first because he knows how unsafe it is".
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Jul 5, 2018 19:17
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Wasn't Nightcrawler's epiteth "the man with the face of a demon and the soul of a priest" or something similar? He always seemed like an easy way for writers wanted to write about mutants (and whoever they were standing in for at the time) being persecuted by hardcore fundamentalists to still say "but not all religious people are like that."
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unruly posted:I thought Nightcrawler had always been a devout Catholic. Yeah, absolutely; I was talking about Ultimate Nightcrawler, sorry.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, absolutely; I was talking about Ultimate Nightcrawler, sorry.
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unruly posted:Yeah, that's what I figured. Like I said, it wouldn't be completely out of character for him to express that thought, given his religious beliefs, but it would be inconsistent with every other representation of him. We'll, it would be out of character for him to express that opinion now, unless he's meant to be North American Orthodox.
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Jul 5, 2018 20:59
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Question for someone who reads comics, but doesn't really follow the comic 'scene'. Why do you guys rag on Bendis so much? Like is he a hit or miss writer? Up himself? You seem to like him sometimes, but poo poo on him at other times.
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Jul 5, 2018 21:03
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Every so often my dad asks me about comics, and I just answer that I gave up on them since the 90s. It seems like that has been the right choice.
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Jul 5, 2018 21:05
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Infinitum posted:Question for someone who reads comics, but doesn't really follow the comic 'scene'. He's very, very good at a certain kind of comic, but people keep paying him to write comics that are not that. Ultimate Spider-Man is straight up one of the best comics I've read but he keeps getting put on big name comics like X-Men and Superman because he's super famous. He's just not a good fit for some settings/characters. That's my opinion though, I don't hate him as much as some people here do.
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Infinitum posted:Question for someone who reads comics, but doesn't really follow the comic 'scene'. Bendis was big in bringing "decompression" to comics, and also Mametesque dialogue. He's had a huge impact on the scene, and can even become self-parody at times. He's written a lot of books. Some very good, some not so much, so it's easy to find something to goof on.
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Jul 5, 2018 21:07
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Bendis is a talented and prolific writer who is inconsistent enough that he's written some dubious books. In general people seem to think that his newer work is more uneven.
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Jul 5, 2018 21:20
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Bendis on solo title = good Bendis on team title = not good
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Thank you Funny Panels thread Have a Funny Panels as thank you  All-New Wolverine #22
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Slightly-late return to ThingChat: I have no idea how I'd submit this, but I've had a What If? kind of mini-script knocking around in my head for a while. It's probably not worth printing anyways, but I like it and maybe one day if I have too much money I'll commission someone to do it just for myself. What if Ben Grimm hadn't been on Reed's spaceship that day? What if Reed decided to fly it himself? I imagine that Ben spent some time helping his friends adjust to their new lives, but eventually our ever-lovin' blue-eyed Ben Grimm finished up his career as a test pilot and moved back to Yancy Street, opening up a little Jewish bakery and deli on the corner. He's the kind of guy who appreciates the kind of foundation that a good solid meal puts on your day. It's a nice place, an informal community center of sorts, and he keeps a couple tables in the corner for the old Yancy Street Gang. Once in a while the paper has a story about his friends, the Terrific Three, or maybe he looks up while he's locking up for the night and sees Johnny flying overhead, doing that weird looping 3 thing he does in the sky. He wonders what life might have been like if he'd followed through and flown that crazy thing Reed built. He doesn't think too hard about it, though. He's got a good life for himself. He's got a weird meta-position in the superpowered community, and his shop is a widely-agreed neutral ground. Doc Samson stops by regularly for a bagel, lox, and coffee. Kitty Pryde drops by for a big loaf of challah whenever she's in town. Magneto swears that nobody makes a better hamantasch. Spider-Man swings by for a Reuben partly because he knows Ben doesn't mind if he's a couple bucks short now and then (besides, he's good for it eventually). Namor buys boxes and boxes of bagels. Ben likes to take pictures with the super set when he's able to spare a few minutes, and the photos line the walls. More than one "misunderstanding" has been cleared up over a couple cups of coffee and a plate of rugelach. But his favorite part doesn't have to do with any of that. His favorite part is right near the end of the fall, when the air is crisp and clear, the days turn short, and the leaves turn bright orange (something about that color always resonates with him, he doesn't know why). That's when he knows the apples are just right. He buys them in giant bags from a farm upstate, and he'll spend all morning cutting them up by hand, because each piece has to be just the right size and shape. He does it personally, because his assistants are good but this job is really important, at least to him. Ben's favorite part of the job comes in the afternoon, when he gets to open up the oven one more time before the end of the day, when the blast of warm air fills the whole shop with the smell of cooked-soft apples and toasted crust and his personal secret blend of cinnamon and spice, so good you can smell it out on the sidewalk. Ben puts on his big mitts and reaches into the oven, his arms straining under the weight of the heavily laden tray. Everyone in the shop knows what's coming, and they'll get up from their seats, shuffling over to the counter in anticipation, waiting for him to set it down, to pull a deep breath of air into his lungs and announce: "IT'S COBBLERING TIME!"
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oof, that's a long way to go for such a short trip
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Jul 6, 2018 00:39
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Infinitum posted:Thank you Funny Panels thread Any panel with Smolverine belongs in this thread.     
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I like her. Any recommendations to read more storylines of hers?
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Zil posted:Any recommendations to read more storylines of hers? All New Wolverine has a loooooot of Gabby.
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Jul 6, 2018 01:35
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That series is real good in general, yes? Who wrote it?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:That series is real good in general, yes? Who wrote it? Tom Taylor
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She's in that one arc of Hawkeye, but you should read all of Kelly Thompson Hawkeye, anyway.
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Her name is Honey Badger and I still don't know what we did to deserve her because she's like a perfect storm of amazing character.
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I hope OML hangs around even when Regular Man Logan returns and dunks on him about how dumb claws, but hot, are.
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Also in that Logan clone group pic, is that an acutal wolverine in the background on the table?
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Zil posted:Also in that Logan clone group pic, is that an acutal wolverine in the background on the table? Yes, that's Jonathan.
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