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Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007

cosmicjim posted:

I have att uverse dsl. My connection is randomly dropping and it’s going to be a week before a tech can come out to decide if it’s my line or modem. I have a 3rd party modem to try but hooking it up gives me a solid power and wireless light, but the “dsl” light keeps blinking. It’s supposed turn solid when it’s talking with ATT. Anyone have experience using 3rd party modems with Uverse dsl? It’s my understanding that light needs to be solid before I even get to the point of setting the router up.
If you have internet only from AT&T, you might be able to use a 3rd party modem. If you also have U-Verse IP TV, you will need the AT&T modem. That said trying to get a straight answer from AT&T on the subject is a futile effort, some will say yes but most will say no. The blinking downstream light could be a legit signal issue, or an unauthorized modem, your best option is to plug in the 3rd party modem and call AT&T to see if they think they can activate it.

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cosmicjim
Mar 23, 2010
VISIT THE STICKIED GOON HOLIDAY CHARITY DRIVE THREAD IN GBS.

Goons are changing the way children get an education in Haiti.

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Crotch Fruit posted:

If you have internet only from AT&T, you might be able to use a 3rd party modem. If you also have U-Verse IP TV, you will need the AT&T modem. That said trying to get a straight answer from AT&T on the subject is a futile effort, some will say yes but most will say no. The blinking downstream light could be a legit signal issue, or an unauthorized modem, your best option is to plug in the 3rd party modem and call AT&T to see if they think they can activate it.

Thanks, it's internet only.

Dogen
May 5, 2002

Bury my body down by the highwayside, so that my old evil spirit can get a Greyhound bus and ride
I installed eero at my parent’s annoying powerline, moca-resistant unnecessarily large house last weekend and can confirm it works well for their use case of needing good WiFi signal and not giving a poo poo about fiddly features.

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp


Hi thread, my old Netgear WNDR3800 router finally took a dive so I'm looking for something to take its place. I'm probably going to go with one of the Archer C(5, 7, or 9)s.

I read the helpful OP and searched around online but still have a question. If I have 100Mbps speeds from Spectrum and my max use case would be something like 3 simultaneous video streams (2 direct TV now and a Netflix or Prime stream) as well as general browsing on mobile devices, would the Archer aeries be able to handle that load? My old Netgear could handle two streams OK but just sputtered out beyond that.

Thanks in advance for you wisdom, thread! :cheers:

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

I’ve got an archer C7 and have had no issues with heavy usage. Just make sure you get the firmware fully updated and set good passwords on both 2.4 and 5 ghz networks.

junan_paalla
Dec 29, 2009

Seriously, do drugs
I just bought my first laptop ever and I'm wondering if there's any software for viewing and connecting to wifi. The windows 10 scrollable menu in the corner of your screen is awful and something that'd just list available connections in a separate window and let you connect to them would be sweet.

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp


KKKLIP ART posted:

I’ve got an archer C7 and have had no issues with heavy usage. Just make sure you get the firmware fully updated and set good passwords on both 2.4 and 5 ghz networks.

Great to hear - thanks!

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

Maybe a stupid/common question but I have an older router (Asus RT-N56U) that I purchased 5 years ago and I think it might be dying. I noticed recently that video calls and streaming services seem to suffer in quality a bit every few minutes. We're a heavy usage apartment and I need solid video calls over wifi for work and my roommate does a lot of video streaming, gaming, etc.

I've had a ping to the router running from my laptop and I'm noticing every 20-30 seconds, the ping skyrockets or times out entirely for about 3 seconds then goes back to normal. This happens even if I am in the room 3 feet away from the router or in my room 15 feet away (my apartment is tiny). There is a lot of signal interference in my building but this problem is recent. When using a wired connection, there are no slowdowns at all.

I just wanted to confirm that this is probably the router having issues and that I should replace it. I'll probably pick up an Archer C9 as mentioned in the OP if so.

derk
Sep 24, 2004

Rosalind posted:

Maybe a stupid/common question but I have an older router (Asus RT-N56U) that I purchased 5 years ago and I think it might be dying. I noticed recently that video calls and streaming services seem to suffer in quality a bit every few minutes. We're a heavy usage apartment and I need solid video calls over wifi for work and my roommate does a lot of video streaming, gaming, etc.

I've had a ping to the router running from my laptop and I'm noticing every 20-30 seconds, the ping skyrockets or times out entirely for about 3 seconds then goes back to normal. This happens even if I am in the room 3 feet away from the router or in my room 15 feet away (my apartment is tiny). There is a lot of signal interference in my building but this problem is recent. When using a wired connection, there are no slowdowns at all.

I just wanted to confirm that this is probably the router having issues and that I should replace it. I'll probably pick up an Archer C9 as mentioned in the OP if so.

Have you tried picking a different wifi channel that is not so cluttered? An app like WiFi Analyzer on your phone will show you what channels are not so cluttered, and if you can put Tomato or some sort of open source firmware on that thing and your equipment can pick up the channel that is blocked in the US but you can force it to use it you would be golden. I forget the channel(s) that are available in Japan and elsewhere overseas but blocked here for WiFi.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

KKKLIP ART posted:

I’ve got an archer C7 and have had no issues with heavy usage. Just make sure you get the firmware fully updated and set good passwords on both 2.4 and 5 ghz networks.

Amazon has the Archer A7 now, which came out over a month ago and just appears to be a C7 hardware revision V5, one less USB port, and the KRACK fix at factory default. I dunno, I bought it to replace our old Linksys and am happy with it so far.

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Amazon has the Archer A7 now, which came out over a month ago and just appears to be a C7 hardware revision V5, one less USB port, and the KRACK fix at factory default. I dunno, I bought it to replace our old Linksys and am happy with it so far.

Yeah if it’s just a mildly updated C7 I don’t see why it wouldn’t be fine

Fireside Nut
Feb 10, 2010

turp


Kerning Chameleon posted:

Amazon has the Archer A7 now, which came out over a month ago and just appears to be a C7 hardware revision V5, one less USB port, and the KRACK fix at factory default. I dunno, I bought it to replace our old Linksys and am happy with it so far.

That's good to hear because that's what I just chose. It had an extra $10 Amazon coupon that was applied at checkout. So in the end it was $59.99 vs. $64.99 for the C7.

Rosalind
Apr 30, 2013

When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change.

derk posted:

Have you tried picking a different wifi channel that is not so cluttered? An app like WiFi Analyzer on your phone will show you what channels are not so cluttered, and if you can put Tomato or some sort of open source firmware on that thing and your equipment can pick up the channel that is blocked in the US but you can force it to use it you would be golden. I forget the channel(s) that are available in Japan and elsewhere overseas but blocked here for WiFi.

Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't even know what channels were to be honest but I read up and switched it to channel 5 from channel 11 (which seemed to be the least crowded). It seems to be doing better. Average ping to the router dropped from like 20-40 ms to 3-12 ms so that's pretty huge. I haven't seen any random skyrockets any more too. So hey thank you so much for saving me some money!

derk
Sep 24, 2004

Rosalind posted:

Thanks for the suggestion. I didn't even know what channels were to be honest but I read up and switched it to channel 5 from channel 11 (which seemed to be the least crowded). It seems to be doing better. Average ping to the router dropped from like 20-40 ms to 3-12 ms so that's pretty huge. I haven't seen any random skyrockets any more too. So hey thank you so much for saving me some money!

You're very welcome.

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

Please pardon what could could be a long dumb post, but looking for help as I help my in-laws set up a better network at their house.

They are currently under construction on a guest house and pool house, and I'd like to get them set up with a solution that covers the whole property. My father-in-law is a contractor and is doing most of the work himself, but when it comes to the tech side is a bit clueless. I sketched out what I think I need to get to get them covered, but let me know if any of this looks off.

From a house/device standpoint, when all is said and done here's what they will have:

MAIN HOUSE: modem comes in here, will have wireless + a couple connected TVs, sonos, iPhones/iPads
STUDIO: connected TV/wireless coverage
GYM: connected TV/wireless coverage
GATE: internet connected gate, this can be wired
GUEST HOUSE: internet connected TVs/entertainment unit/sonos/wireless coverage
POOL HOUSE: internet connected TVs/entertainment unit/sonos/wireless coverage

I'm thinking each non-main house needs a small switch + access point, the main house needs a router, switch, and access point, and the gate is fine with cat6 run to the switch at the house.

I think each house is probably fine covered by one access point, and am trying to maximize the number of devices that can be connected via ethernet vs. wireless since there is a conduit with Cat6 running to each of the units from the main house.

Does this all sound reasonable, or am I in over my head and should just hire someone to do this?

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derk
Sep 24, 2004
I want their money. But it looks good with everything possible being wired to be wired. I'll never be a fan of wireless when wired is an option so I am biased.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry
yeah if we help you can we crash at their pad some time soon?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

CrazyLittle posted:

yeah if we help you can we crash at their pad some time soon?

also, why no wifi in the pool or at the gate... hmm? HMMMMM???? :catstare:

derk
Sep 24, 2004
also, with new construction, wired should be the only option, so easy to run wire BEFORE the drywall and ceilings are up and finished!

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

derk posted:

also, with new construction, wired should be the only option, so easy to run wire BEFORE the drywall and ceilings are up and finished!

Yea, that's exactly why I'm having them start thinking about this now before he runs the electrical. And this is selfish help as well since my wife and I will be spending a ton of time there and I'd like to have functioning internet, haha.

So I'm gathering I'd need 5 Wireless APs: are the Unifi AC Lite's fine for this?
Then the switches for each unit: (5 total): US-8 Unifi Switches?
And then a gateway router in the main house to connect to the modem: Unifi Security Gateway

Does that seem right? I guess if there are more than 8 wired devices or access points at any location I'd need a bigger switch?

edit: I guess I could also just look into a mesh wireless solution for the whole property? pros/cons there?

ScooterMcTiny fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Jul 5, 2018

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Most mesh solutions want to use wireless backhaul. If you've got cable running between buildings already there's no good reason not to use it for the backhaul.

This seems like a great use case for Ubiquiti in general.

ScooterMcTiny
Apr 7, 2004

IOwnCalculus posted:

Most mesh solutions want to use wireless backhaul. If you've got cable running between buildings already there's no good reason not to use it for the backhaul.

This seems like a great use case for Ubiquiti in general.

Ok great, that’s what I was thinking at first. Looks like I’ll need a Cloud Key as well for network management? All things considered, not too complicated a set up I guess.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

ScooterMcTiny posted:

So I'm gathering I'd need 5 Wireless APs: are the Unifi AC Lite's fine for this?
Then the switches for each unit: (5 total): US-8 Unifi Switches?

Dude's got a pool house. Go for broke - get UAP-nanoHD access points instead. Then you'll have 4x4 mu-mimo compatibility when all the handheld devices start suppo- hahahah sigh.
https://store.ubnt.com/products/unifi-nanohd-us?variant=8658653151321

Also there's 3 variants of the 8-port UniFi switch: US-8, US-8-60w, US-8-150W:
  • US-8: Can be powered by 802.3af PoE or 802.3at PoE+ input on port 1. If you power it with PoE+ you can passthrough 802.3af PoE out on port 8.
  • US-8-60w: Has a power brick. Ports 5-8 are 802.3af PoE. Ports 1-4 are not.
  • US-8-150w: Standard PC power cable with built-in power supply. All 8 ports are 802.3af PoE with a total power budget of 150W.

If you're strictly driving only one AP/PoE device from each switch, get a 5-pack* of the US-8 switches and a 24/48-port UniFi switch at the main panel to power the other switches. Don't bother with non-PoE switches or injectors. Managed PoE offers a lot of advantages.

Also if they're pulling new power and data wires to each building, pull conduit instead of bare wires. Also don't mix power and data/low-voltage in the same conduit.

Also also.

* install one in the pool

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


The inwall stuff could be a good shout as well if people are sensitive about having things on the ceiling or high up the wall. You get a couple of ethernet jacks on the bottom of each as well if you wanted to plug something in.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Thanks Ants posted:

The inwall stuff could be a good shout as well if people are sensitive about having things on the ceiling or high up the wall. You get a couple of ethernet jacks on the bottom of each as well if you wanted to plug something in.

Yeah, they work decently well as long as you're installing them in the same room as where the users will be. But as with any wifi signal, quality degrades over distance and with objects obstructing the wireless signal path, so hiding the AP behind a TV or in adjacent room won't work as well as direct line of sight. I installed a dorm using these, and every room got their own UAP-IW-AC. Haven't received any complaints about speed or dropped wifi from them ever since install.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
An article on the addictive nature of home networking.

quote:

“I can mount a fourth AP right there and push 5GHz into the bedroom” sounds simple enough, until it’s six hours later and you’ve almost fallen through your ceiling four times and you can’t stop bleeding from your forehead from where you scraped yourself on roof nails and you’ve got sheetrock dust in both eyes and you realize after digging through insulation that the hole you’ve just drilled isn’t actually reachable from any part of the attic you can squeeze yourself into. (Shortly after this, you find yourself googling “how to patch drywall holes in ceiling for dummies.”

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/07/enterprise-wi-fi-at-home-part-two-reflecting-on-almost-three-years-with-pro-gear/

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Yeah. First I was going to just set the WAP at the corner of the living room. And now I’m trying to figure out if there’s a way to run Ethernet up to the rear surround sound panel on the back upper wall so I can get a pretty central area with POE.

I doubt that will work, though. I bet the surround sound thing is already wired, so it would be absolutely terrible trying to fish the cables through.

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Wow, that sounds exactly like my house.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



So I just finished setting up my new modem and router (sb6190 and tplink ac1900) but I’m still getting a fairly weak signal in the furthest bedrooms in my apartment, especially when the doors are closed. Besides physically moving the router, which may be a pain since the cords are on the opposite end of the living room, is there anything I can do to boost the signal?

CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

Verisimilidude posted:

So I just finished setting up my new modem and router (sb6190 and tplink ac1900) but I’m still getting a fairly weak signal in the furthest bedrooms in my apartment, especially when the doors are closed. Besides physically moving the router, which may be a pain since the cords are on the opposite end of the living room, is there anything I can do to boost the signal?

Boost the signal? no. You can put wired APs at the weak spots, or you can get a mesh network wifi system like eero or google wifi to get the signal out there without having to pull cable

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
And vis a vis “boosting,” remember the oft quoted wisdom about how, especially on the edge, just because a client can receive doesn’t mean it can properly transmit back to the station (router).

Many people cheat with a pair HomePlug/Powerline adapters to place a WAP without running actual network cable.

Works pretty decent too, if you’re not hung up on speeds.

Tapedump fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jul 7, 2018

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
Need advice on beefing up my home network security to insane levels. There’s multiple computers, multiple iPads and iPhones, and smart LED bulbs in one room. The main goal here is to keep things as secure as humanely possible.

Already Haves/Have Done:
Netgear modem (don’t have Model name off-hand)
Netgear X10 R9000 router
Bitdefender Total Security 2018 security suite
Changed router admin and WPA2 passwords to 24-character randomly generated one’d
Disabled SSID
Enabled guest network

What other steps should I take? I want to get a hardware firewall (looking at the Bitdefender BOX 2), but I’d love other suggestions. Besides the firewall, is there any other hardware I should get?

Valicious fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Jul 7, 2018

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Find a way to get all the IoT stuff on it’s own segregated subnet, block all inbound traffic, and don’t let it use UPnP.

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.
Was there something specific that caused you to want to beef up your home network security to insane levels?

Sane home security tips for everyone:
  • Have a router that the manufacturer is still providing updates for and keep it up to date
  • Disable UPnP
  • Make sure it doesn't have ports exposed to the internet. https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
  • Isolate IoT devices, or better yet get rid of them altogether.
  • Use a reverse proxy with basic auth rather than exposing anything you're hosting on your home network directly to the web.

Unreasonable security steps for 99% of people. Stuff that is cumbersome or provides very little practical benefit.
  • Route everything over a VPN
  • Setup an obnoxiously long/cumbersome wireless password
  • Setup AP Isolation for all devices
  • Block known malware IP addresses
  • Block IP addresses ranges of countries like Russia, Ukraine, Pakistan, China, etc.
  • DNS over HTTPS

Don't do these, they don't help
  • Mac Address filtering
  • Disabling SSID
  • Use TOR

THF13 fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jul 7, 2018

Valicious
Aug 16, 2010
There was an intrusion and some of the computers on our network were compromised and used to do not-so-good things. We’re trying to take steps to ensure that never happens again.

THF13 posted:

[*]Isolate IoT devices, or better yet get rid of them altogether.
[*]Use a reverse proxy with basic auth rather than exposing anything you're hosting on your home network directly to the web. [/list]

How do I do these?

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.
Reverse proxy is only needed if you are hosting something on your home network and exposing it to the web, there's quite a few tutorials on how to set one up. You can probably find a specific configuration for just about any commonly run web service. If you have docker setup already linuxserver/letsencrypt is a very nice container that gives you an nginx based reverse proxy with a letsencrypt certificate for TLS and fail2ban already configured.

Isolating devices is different depending on your router, googling yours the simplest way is to put them on a guest network with the "Allow guests to see each other and access my local network" setting disabled.

Kerning Chameleon
Apr 8, 2015

by Cyrano4747

THF13 posted:

Isolating devices is different depending on your router, googling yours the simplest way is to put them on a guest network with the "Allow guests to see each other and access my local network" setting disabled.

Is the "Three Dumb Routers" setup in any way good advice? Certain family members are beginning to agitate about being able to use smart TV and thermostat functionality, and I'm wondering if our old Linksys router (factory reset and flashed to current DD-WRT) might work as a lovely IOT device router.

THF13
Sep 26, 2007

Keep an adversary in the dark about what you're capable of, and he has to assume the worst.

Kerning Chameleon posted:

Is the "Three Dumb Routers" setup in any way good advice? Certain family members are beginning to agitate about being able to use smart TV and thermostat functionality, and I'm wondering if our old Linksys router (factory reset and flashed to current DD-WRT) might work as a lovely IOT device router.

I think just using an isolated guest network for you IOT devices is good enough. If I remember right the reason for the "3 dumb router" strategy was for routers which didn't support it or if you did not trust your router's manufacturer to implement that feature correctly.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



I got my ER-L set up yesterday. Didn’t realize that it used one of the three Ethernet ports for WAN connection. I should have, but it’s been a long time since I worked on enterprise network gear. At least I have a switch.

It’s interesting. It’s not actually getting any higher speeds than the TPLink WDR3600, but it’s getting there way faster. Using speedtest they both get to 940 or so, but with the old router it takes the whole length of the test to get there. With the ER-L it takes maybe two or three seconds.

Next up: configuring the Aruba WAP and figuring out where these loving unlabeled cables in the basement go.

E: poo poo, the IAP isn't turning on. I don't see a power switch, so I think I must have bought an incompatible injector. I got this thing: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EFHN66/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Did I gently caress up?

I saw the IAP needs worst-case 19 or 20 watts, so I got a 24V 1A = 24W injector. But now looking at the ethernet ports on the back it says 56V 350mA. Is the voltage loving it up? The DC adapter said 12V so I was thinking anything over 12V would be fine, I didn't notice that the ethernet port said 56V.

22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Jul 8, 2018

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CrazyLittle
Sep 11, 2001





Clapping Larry

22 Eargesplitten posted:

E: poo poo, the IAP isn't turning on. I don't see a power switch, so I think I must have bought an incompatible injector. I got this thing: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EFHN66/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1. Did I gently caress up?

I saw the IAP needs worst-case 19 or 20 watts, so I got a 24V 1A = 24W injector. But now looking at the ethernet ports on the back it says 56V 350mA. Is the voltage loving it up? The DC adapter said 12V so I was thinking anything over 12V would be fine, I didn't notice that the ethernet port said 56V.

Yeah nope. You got a 24v passive PoE injector that's used for a lot of legacy PoE stuff and Ubiquiti's oddball PoE gear. Chances are that the Aruba AP needs 802.3af 48V PoE, regardless of the wattage it claims.

either http://a.co/8VcSbVt or http://a.co/dlPEiRB

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