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Futuresight
Oct 11, 2012

IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!
No one will be free once we all probate each other into oblivion.

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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/evepeyser/status/1015050035959160832

etalian
Mar 20, 2006


The DCCC emails are so loving horrible.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

ikanreed posted:

The small business thing is a canary though. It's failing to acknowledge the fundamental conflict between worker and employer in favor of things that sound important and wholesome. Decorum

The biggest thing that concerns me about that is that she's showing the common misunderstanding that the overwhelming majority of "small businesses" are nothing like "small mom and pop" stores (and that's ignoring the fact that the whole idealized mental image of a "small mom and pop store" is weird to begin with).

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Ytlaya posted:

The biggest thing that concerns me about that is that she's showing the common misunderstanding that the overwhelming majority of "small businesses" are nothing like "small mom and pop" stores (and that's ignoring the fact that the whole idealized mental image of a "small mom and pop store" is weird to begin with).

Small business owners suck and can be ever worse workplace tyrants than a large corporate place.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

On the one hand, small businesses aren't the ones buying the entire government

On the other hand, small businesses are often run by chuds who don't want to give their employees healthcare because they really want to get their kitchens redone this summer and if they bought healthcare they'd have to wait until at least autumn

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

loquacius posted:

On the one hand, small businesses aren't the ones buying the entire government

On the other hand, small businesses are often run by chuds who don't want to give their employees healthcare because they really want to get their kitchens redone this summer and if they bought healthcare they'd have to wait until at least autumn

I like how they think they are warren buffet just because they own a nail salon in a strip mall

Futuresight
Oct 11, 2012

IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!
I mean it depends. It's always hard to tell with political statements which game is being played. You could be saying you want to stick up for small business and have it mean you intend to go after big business for an example. And there's lots of leftist ways to help "small business", like providing welfare to unemployed people looking to start their own businesses (pipe dream as gently caress in the USA as this is), or providing government funded healthcare making it easier for small business to compete, etc. It could also just be some empty poo poo she said cause saying you want to help small business are magic words.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
This is all the mental murkiness of my succ zone addled brain, but I swear to god, at some point I can think of some shitass small business tyrant that had like, a yoga studio or two, some lovely restaurant, and still called themselves a "small business owner."

Truth be told, it's always the small business tyrants that are the worst because they're like, "don't you wanna see this business succeed?!?" as if you'd be reaping an equal share of the profits while they demand more and more from you. It's totally batshit.

Futuresight
Oct 11, 2012

IT'S ALL TURNED TO SHIT!
On the other hand my dad is retiring next month and his boss offered to buy him a truck or van as a retirement present as dad currently drives a company van.

A good small business owner can make working for someone else much more pleasant than working for some faceless corp. And the power dynamics are much less drastic when they have such a small pool of employees to work with. Everything being actual proper small businesses would probably be an improvement over massive companies owning everything. Which I guess only makes the tyrants more frustrating.

Fleetwood
Mar 26, 2010


biggest hochul head in china

Shear Modulus posted:

my unpopular suck zone opinion is that data centers should be dispersed to ensure lower latency and a network that is robust to individual outages

jesus CHRIST man there's just some things you don't talk about in public!

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Futuresight posted:

No one will be free once we all probate each other into oblivion.

Unironically this

Liberation can only happen if we can't post online

Edit: misread that, but my point stands

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
All small business should be worker owned co-ops.

Cnidaria
Apr 10, 2009

It's all politics, Mike.

MizPiz posted:

Unironically this

Liberation can only happen if we can't post online

Edit: misread that, but my point stands

the internet should be consolidated into a single data center

so then we can blow it up freeing us from this hell we have created

GOOD TIMES ON METH
Mar 17, 2006

Fun Shoe
Trump is heading to Montana for a massive rally to crush our lead

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Trump is heading to Montana for a massive rally to crush our lead

I wonder if democrats could get someone who also has massive rally's? Maybe they could support that person and raise his profile so that he can defeat trump in 2020?

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

All small business should be worker owned co-ops.

:hai:

small businesses should be encouraged, but small business owners that decry having to pay their workers a living wage while scraping every last dollar of profit into their greedy arms should be :thermidor:

just i. m. o.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

I wonder if democrats could get someone who also has massive rally's? Maybe they could support that person and raise his profile so that he can defeat trump in 2020?

I think it might be a bit late for the dems to get the CEO of checker's/rally's to run for governor of florida but it wouldn't surprise me

MaxxBot
Oct 6, 2003

you could have clapped

you should have clapped!!
https://twitter.com/voxmediainc/status/1014887295009292290?s=19

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

primo succ

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

why are small business owners better than tall business owners anyway, i dont even see the connection at all

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

ikanreed posted:

The small business thing is a canary though. It's failing to acknowledge the fundamental conflict between worker and employer in favor of things that sound important and wholesome. Decorum

psst it's using the small business talking point to tax the rich instead of give them fantastic prizes

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Calibanibal posted:

why are small business owners better than tall business owners anyway, i dont even see the connection at all

less likely to bump their heads on low-hanging doorways

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

All small business should be worker owned co-ops.

Also medium and large businesses.

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014

ikanreed posted:

Lol that due process and abolishing the agency that exists to violate it fails purity tests.

By which I must mean, "we must secure our borders" and can't mean "take the win and move forward from it"

So she's pro-business and tough on illegal immigration?



Who's the republican she needs to beat?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
my large adult business

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
tfw you elect a socdem instead of a demsoc

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

rudecyrus posted:

tfw you elect a socdem instead of a demsoc

If you still think these are different things, lmao

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
anyway AOC is my representative in Congress and I am going to defend her even harder than all the retards in this thread defend bernie panders when he juts his dewlap at Venezuela and Russia

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



GalacticAcid posted:

anyway AOC is my representative in Congress and I am going to defend her even harder than all the retards in this thread defend bernie panders when he juts his dewlap at Venezuela and Russia

i dont know what this means but it sounds anti semitic

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
no it’s ageist bitch

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
succdem, demsucc, it's all succ dems.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/1015065579194118144

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


GalacticAcid posted:

anyway AOC is my representative in Congress and I am going to defend her even harder than all the retards in this thread defend bernie panders when he juts his dewlap at Venezuela and Russia

i canvassed for your socialist, you should canvass for mine.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:

Trump is heading to Montana for a massive rally to crush our lead

I like how the president of the united states is having nazi rear end rallies all over the country

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Nichael posted:

i canvassed for your socialist, you should canvass for mine.

I’m more abrasive and offensive irl than online, prolly a bad idea

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

GalacticAcid posted:

I’m more abrasive and offensive irl than online, prolly a bad idea

Canvass for the incumbent. :kheldragar:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1015065748274925569?s=21

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/lauferlaw/status/1014938840581238784

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mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
why is the only issue of the day ice and immigration. i get that its important and horrific but like it seems its drowning out everything else completely in the news

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