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You don't get to take the duals for free. They're drafted as part of the pack.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 06:01 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2024 01:44 |
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I finished KCI combo. that deck is stupid. I played awful and went 3-1 at the modern event at my LGS tonight. My single loss was to Jund. I feel I had a chance even in that match barring a bunch of misplays on my part. The deck is fun to play but I'm sure being on the other side of the table is loving awful. I'm going to play it enough to hopefully do well in a $1k event at the end of the month and then not torture people at my LGS. I feel like this is a deck that warps the meta to devoting a ton of sideboard slots against it like Twin did and they'll either try to update the rules to take away the overpayment "trick" or just ban something.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 07:03 |
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For those that aren't aware, the overpayment trick is that if you're doing something that requires a mana payment, you can use as many mana abilities as you want while you're doing that, and any non-mana triggered abilities won't get put on the stack until afterwards. So for example, you can sacrifice two Myr Retrievers to KCI, and each one will be able to pick up the other (since they're both in the graveyard when the triggered abilities actually go on the stack). You couldn't do that without the overpayment trick. Now, the whole main reason you can even use mana abilities while you're casting something in the first place is that back in the day, people were real sticklers for rules, and judges were handing out DQs for putting your spell on the table before tapping your lands. So they reworked the rules so that actually, doing things in that order is totally fine. Nowadays though, they wouldn't have had to do that, since it would have all been fine under out-of-order sequencing. So they could just get rid of it entirely, which would also solve some other unintuitive interactions. You'd still have complications with paying mana as part of the resolution of a spell or ability though.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 07:19 |
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If overpaying to sac myr retrievers for free is a problem they'll ban cards not change the rules. Any rule change that prevented it would be extremely messy and basically nonfunctional on mtgo
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 07:46 |
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Holy poo poo that basic land slot thing is a loving catastrophe waiting to happen. If someone trains packs in a draft at an LGS and something goes wrong it's going to be impossible to sort poo poo out when some packs start with 14 cards and some with 15. Hopefully everyone zone drafts locally!
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 08:09 |
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uPen posted:If my basic land gets replaced by a common dual and I get another common dual in a common slot can I take both and pass a 12 card pack first pick? that can't happen, they ONLY show up in the basic slot honestly, every LGS will just tell players to leave the Bolas token in and be done with it. I'm sure there will be an announcement making that the official policy within a week of release Katana Gomai fucked around with this message at 09:47 on Jul 6, 2018 |
# ? Jul 6, 2018 09:45 |
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Bolas token will probably be like 1 in 100
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 09:50 |
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:I'll only accept Garuda with the enchantment that makes 3/4 bird tokens. Seriouspost I played Storm Haven as my first deck because it was the only one that wasn't embarassing on its face (and even it had some goofy anatomy for its cleric girl art).
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 10:44 |
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little munchkin posted:hoogland is an annoying dork but you can't really fault him for this when there's a handful of mentally ill people who follow him around online and harass him (but it's ok because he was "salty" one too many times) Not a nice thing to say about your fellow goons.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 11:21 |
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Katana Gomai posted:that can't happen, they ONLY show up in the basic slot Foil duals can appear in a common slot
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 14:59 |
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Serifina posted:Foil duals can appear in a common slot are you sure or just guessing? anyways lol if so and obviously you shouldn't take two cards. As I said, I reckon most LGSs will just draft the Bolas token
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 15:50 |
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New rules update is out. As usual, there's nothing particularly interesting, but it fixes the Squee/Ixalan's Binding interaction, for those of you who play Standard but don't play with Bomat Courier
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 16:38 |
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Elyv posted:New rules update is out. As usual, there's nothing particularly interesting, but it fixes the Squee/Ixalan's Binding interaction, for those of you who play Standard but don't play with Bomat Courier I am glad someone any amount of time making sure squee wasn't TOO powerful instead of virtually anything else.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 16:40 |
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So can you cast squee from under binding now or not? Follow up question, can you do it on mtgo anyway?
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 16:58 |
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A bunch of new standard decks from the Hareruya pros. The zombie list looks fun. http://www.hareruyamtg.com/article/en/category/detail/348 Tainen fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Rinkles posted:Is LSV leaving LR? Hasn't been on for a while, and didn't do the M19 review. rumour is there's some negotiations with the cfb sponsorship? I don't think that Marshal's mentioned them on the last couple episodes.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:16 |
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Lone Goat posted:rumour is there's some negotiations with the cfb sponsorship? I don't think that Marshal's mentioned them on the last couple episodes. Yeah he posted it on Reddit somewhere.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:24 |
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Sickening posted:I am glad someone any amount of time making sure squee wasn't TOO powerful instead of virtually anything else. Oh no, the Rules Manager removed a counterintuitive interaction How terrible
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:40 |
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Elyv posted:New rules update is out. As usual, there's nothing particularly interesting, but it fixes the Squee/Ixalan's Binding interaction, for those of you who play Standard but don't play with Bomat Courier Huh, looks like they've flip-flopped on token ownership again. Hunted Dragon + Brand is back on the menu.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:44 |
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Elyv posted:New rules update is out. As usual, there's nothing particularly interesting, but it fixes the Squee/Ixalan's Binding interaction, for those of you who play Standard but don't play with Bomat Courier quote:110.5a This is a reversal in ruling/policy. This "new" way used to be the old way, as there was something to do with the Hunted creatures from original Ravnica interacting with a card like Homeward Path. (Thought it was Brooding Saurian, but it says non-token for I believe exactly this reason) Edit: motherfucker ^ I had this written out for ages but was making sure I didn't wanna comment on anything else.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:45 |
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Tainen posted:A bunch of new standard decks from the Hareruya pros. The zombie list looks fun. Doesn't 26 lands sound a lot for this sort of deck? Even with 6 5-drops. It does look fun but maybe it wants to go closer to the ground?
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:57 |
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https://twitter.com/chrishanrahan/status/1015274631198994433 heh
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 17:59 |
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As far as I understand it, M25 is the only recent set sold in EU that was printed on the US, so shouldn't affect much. American cardstock is typically the worst, so we (EU) should be ok.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:03 |
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Old news to everyone else but I just found out about the China Decks fiasco and just lmao
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:08 |
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precision posted:Old news to everyone else but I just found out about the China Decks fiasco and just lmao China decks fiasco?
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:09 |
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Buffis posted:As far as I understand it, M25 is the only recent set sold in EU that was printed on the US, so shouldn't affect much. we have an extra 10% on magic cards here in Canada starting with Core set 19 lol.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:10 |
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Mezzanon posted:we have an extra 10% on magic cards here in Canada starting with Core set 19 lol. I thought Canadian cards were from the European stock (because of bilingualism)
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:13 |
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AnEdgelord posted:China decks fiasco? The contents of the Global Deck series are standard legal, which means there are a few planeswalkers that are only legal in China. Not sure what that means for MTG in Tibet/Taiwan/etc.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:14 |
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Kurtofan posted:I thought Canadian cards were from the European stock (because of bilingualism) Man that'd be awesome if Canadian Magic cards were French on the back, just like our cereal boxes.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:16 |
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:The contents of the Global Deck series are standard legal, which means there are a few planeswalkers that are only legal in China. Luckily, they're garbage.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:17 |
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Jabor posted:Huh, looks like they've flip-flopped on token ownership again. Hunted Dragon + Brand is back on the menu. mehall posted:This is a reversal in ruling/policy. This does not appear to be a reversal or a reversion to the "old" rules. Forbidden Orchard, Hunted creatures, etc. typically are oracle worded with "opponent creates", so they would still be owned by your opponent. The edge case of playing a Hunted creature, but stealing the tokens with Crafty Cutpurse is changing. While the player that the tokens come into play under changes (which would have previously changed the ownership), the "creating player" does not (so, now your opponent will still own the creatures they create under your control).
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:25 |
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:The contents of the Global Deck series are standard legal, which means there are a few planeswalkers that are only legal in China. They're standard legal only in Mainland China, but sold worldwide iirc. The point is to break into China's market but I think magic is already played in Taiwan. It's deliberately bad cards with new art and names but all functionally worse than what you could play in standard. I feel like making a lot of deliberately bad cards is a good way to turn people off of magic not to mention they have the awkward "legal only in mainland china" text, but who knows why WOTC does what they do.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 18:29 |
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Rinkles posted:Is LSV leaving LR? Hasn't been on for a while, and didn't do the M19 review. I wish I hadn't bothered digging this up from Reddit but it's an interesting angle. I thought today's set review was still good and I'd truck on with LR without him, as much as I'd also be really keen to hear him do his own thing. I don't know how welcome drama chat is here but I value his MTG opinions even more after reading this salacious bit of gossip. That's a value play.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:06 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:Doesn't 26 lands sound a lot for this sort of deck? Even with 6 5-drops. It does look fun but maybe it wants to go closer to the ground? I’m thinking it’s because you want to hit every land drop so that when you eventually play Liliana you have enough mana to empty your graveyard.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:07 |
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https://twitter.com/sickofit/status/1015296610023059456 I guess there's some sort of movement happening on twitter in regards to pro players and them wanting more money?
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:11 |
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BizarroAzrael posted:Doesn't 26 lands sound a lot for this sort of deck? Even with 6 5-drops. It does look fun but maybe it wants to go closer to the ground? Look at all the 4cmc and above cards in a deck with no acceleration. 25 is required at the very least.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:13 |
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CFB and Marshall are having a sponsorship dispute, and as goes CFB so goes Luis. Per Marshall. Don't bring that freemagic poo poo around here.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:16 |
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MrBling posted:https://twitter.com/sickofit/status/1015296610023059456 Lol nobody will miss them and an endless line of new young hopefully will take their place no matter the treatment.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:18 |
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number one pta fan posted:I wish I hadn't bothered digging this up from Reddit but it's an interesting angle. I thought today's set review was still good and I'd truck on with LR without him, as much as I'd also be really keen to hear him do his own thing. I don't know how welcome drama chat is here but I value his MTG opinions even more after reading this salacious bit of gossip. That's a value play. I got this far quote:This is a wide open and unmoderated subreddit and immediately closed the window, get that garbage outta here.
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# ? Jul 6, 2018 19:18 |
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:Lol nobody will miss them and an endless line of new young hopefully will take their place no matter the treatment. I would love to see some of these resumes he has worked on for pro magic players
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