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The One Ring isn't even remotely D&D-like, this document sucks.  e; unrelated: https://www.pcgamer.com/the-witcher-tabletop-rpg-is-finally-releasing/ Looks like the R.Tal Witcher RPG is due out next month and will be at GenCon. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 14:16 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Lemon-Lime posted:The One Ring isn't even remotely D&D-like, this document sucks. quote:B: Yes, I want to play a fantasy adventure game, but it doesn’t need to be D&D or D&D adjacent. I want to go on an adventure with a group of friends and have a good time, but I don’t need all that stuff listed in answer A to do it. go on.
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Jul 6, 2018 19:43
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Elfgames posted:go on. quote:A: I Want Exactly Dungeons and Dragons
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Jul 6, 2018 19:45
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It’s under the “I want exactly D&D” section too.
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Jul 6, 2018 19:45
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Nothing is exactly D&D except D&D, and sometimes not even then. It’s a bad name for a section.
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Jul 6, 2018 19:48
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Pollyanna posted:It’s under the “I want exactly D&D” section too. well that's dumb
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Jul 6, 2018 19:48
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Yeah, 13th Age is the only one in that section that I would call 'close enough' to D&D.
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Jul 6, 2018 19:51
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fool_of_sound posted:Yeah, 13th Age is the only one in that section that I would call 'close enough' to D&D. Not Torchbearer or ToR though.
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Jul 6, 2018 19:54
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Also, I know my opinions on Dungeon World are obvious, but I really can't think of any reason to play Dungeon World over Fellowship.dwarf74 posted:SotDL kinda works, too. I'd say it's as D&D-adjacent as 13A is. Yeah fair enough.
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Jul 6, 2018 19:54
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fool_of_sound posted:Also, I know my opinions on Dungeon World are obvious, but I really can't think of any reason to play Dungeon World over Fellowship. The same reasons a lot of people love Pathfinder: there's a metric fuckton of content for it and it feels like D&D.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:00
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Unlike most other games, D&D is more like a religion than something you can refer to a single text and say "That's what it is."
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Jul 6, 2018 20:07
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Halloween Jack posted:Unlike most other games, D&D is more like a religion than something you can refer to a single text and say "That's what it is." Yeah, Shadowrun kinda has a similar thing. There are huge arguments about how the setting is supposed to be portrayed and how the game is supposed to be played.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:09
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All. :clap emoji: Gaming. :clap emoji: Is. :clap emoji: Bad. :clap emoji: Gaming
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Jul 6, 2018 20:13
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I has fun with play game
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Jul 6, 2018 20:15
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Anyone else here find the whole "D&D is bad and you shouldn't play it" attitude that keeps coming up in stuff like that incredibly obnoxious? even if I do agree that 3rd Edition and Pathfinder are bad, and that 5e is the epitome of mediocre, the other editions are perfectly fine though
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Jul 6, 2018 20:16
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No.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:17
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drrockso20 posted:Anyone else here find the whole "D&D is bad and you shouldn't play it" attitude that keeps coming up in stuff like that incredibly obnoxious? Not really, it’s fun to post and it’s dumb to hide your opinions to fit some discourse. If you don’t like it don’t read the 2 threads it pops up in now
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Jul 6, 2018 20:24
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We should be able to resolve this kind of discussion by trial of combat or something. Like we get one of the fucktards who hate DND and me on the octagon, hand to hand only, UFC 1 rules. Whoever wins is right on the matter.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:26
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drrockso20 posted:Anyone else here find the whole "D&D is bad and you shouldn't play it" attitude that keeps coming up in stuff like that incredibly obnoxious? There's a four year old '5e bad' thread with multiple posters who have felt the need to post over 1000 times about the topic. Talking about d&d being bad is extremely important to them, I guess. e: Did the 'Game Workshop Bad' thread finally get gassed? fool of sound fucked around with this message at 20:30 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Jul 6, 2018 20:26
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On the one hand: All editions of D&D have deep flaws, some more than others. D&D is its own weird subgenre and playstyle. I must agree that if someone told me they want to get into D&D, I'd rather introduce them to any of several cleaner, simpler D&Dalikes than D&D itself, for purposes of clarity and ease of play. On the other hand: Multiple generations of 10 year olds have figured D&D out without us online turbonerds carefully curating their elfgame experience, and D&D as a genre has never been more visible than it is now. D&D can be very frustrating but it's not that hard, and if people want to get into the hobby, I don't think the text of any edition of D&D is going to turn them off and turn them away forever. fool_of_sound posted:Yeah, Shadowrun kinda has a similar thing. There are huge arguments about how the setting is supposed to be portrayed and how the game is supposed to be played.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:44
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Halloween Jack posted:On the other hand: Multiple generations of 10 year olds have figured D&D out without us online turbonerds carefully curating their elfgame experience, and D&D as a genre has never been more visible than it is now. D&D can be very frustrating but it's not that hard, and if people want to get into the hobby, I don't think the text of any edition of D&D is going to turn them off and turn them away forever.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:48
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fool_of_sound posted:There's a four year old '5e bad' thread with multiple posters who have felt the need to post over 1000 times about the topic. Talking about d&d being bad is extremely important to them, I guess. Wait the 5e thread is a loving mock thread?
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Jul 6, 2018 20:50
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Plutonis posted:Wait the 5e thread is a loving mock thread? I haven't followed it in a long time, but last I checked there were two 5e threads, a serious one and a mock thread. The mock thread one is still called D&D NEXT.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:53
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dwarf74 posted:What's more, Twitch and Actual Play podcasts serve quite well as the mythical 'older cousin' who teaches you how the game flows and the basics of the rules. Pretty much nobody is learning the game right out of the books, from scratch, anymore. Personally, I find them more as a stream of misinformation.
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Jul 6, 2018 20:57
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Mocking 5e was a lot more fun when 5e wasn't actually out yet and it was an ongoing process of watching Mike Mearls fall down an endless staircase of bad design and giving us sneak peaks of content that turned out not to be anywhere in the game.
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Jul 6, 2018 21:02
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Plutonis posted:Wait the 5e thread is a loving mock thread? There hasn't been a D&D 5E mock thread for literal years.
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drrockso20 posted:Anyone else here find the whole "D&D is bad and you shouldn't play it" attitude that keeps coming up in stuff like that incredibly obnoxious?
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fool_of_sound posted:I haven't followed it in a long time, but last I checked there were two 5e threads, a serious one and a mock thread. The mock thread one is still called D&D NEXT.
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drrockso20 posted:Anyone else here find the whole "D&D is bad and you shouldn't play it" attitude that keeps coming up in stuff like that incredibly obnoxious? Not at all. Splicer posted:Nah, there's a 5E thread and at some point someone created a "5E but don't say anything mean about it!!!" thread, which died. That reminds me of the people in Games who made GAMEPLAY DISCUSSION ONLY threads for games like Skullgirls and Dead or Alive because they couldn't handle people criticizing the character designs, themes, development team history, etc. of games they like. It's like making a CINEMATOGRAPHY ONLY thread for a movie. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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D&D is pretty garbage overall, largely due to its culture and fanbase. All of the appeal comes from nostalgia and its role as "default fantasy. "My Lovely Horse posted:you can always play the actually good 4th edition I wish this were my case. Everybody can always find a lovely Next or PF group, though. Yay.
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Jul 6, 2018 21:32
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fool_of_sound posted:Also, I know my opinions on Dungeon World are obvious, but I really can't think of any reason to play Dungeon World over Fellowship. I got Fellowship recently, and from what I can tell...yeah, pretty much. I guess if you want to do specifically dungeon diving then DW is more focused towards that. But I am super excited to try running Fellowship!
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moths posted:D&D is pretty garbage overall, largely due to its culture and fanbase. All of the appeal comes from nostalgia and its role as "default fantasy. " Make a board game group, play with them regularly for yeara, have exactly 4 and buy Gloomhaven, get a fifth and suggest 4e since it takes inspiration from Gloomhaven. Good job!
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I wish there was a version of 3.5 that kept the parts that were good, namely the Binder class, and tossed the parts that were bad, namely everything else.
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I‘m still looking for a system that does high magic well. DW doesn’t seem to be very good at anything other than low magic. Fellowship, I don’t know yet.
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Pollyanna posted:I‘m still looking for a system that does high magic well. DW doesn’t seem to be very good at anything other than low magic. Fellowship, I don’t know yet. Define what you mean by "high magic." Do you want inscrutable wizards with world-changing powers or do you want DBZ but they shout "Magic missile!"
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Lemon-Lime posted:Define what you mean by "high magic." Magic is common and forms a sort of backbone to society or technology, i.e. isn’t particularly “special”. The system can handle actions by characters who intuitively weave magic as easily as mundane characters can move around. Basically a system that can handle “I’m a fire mage so I’m going to <anything fire related>” without breaking horribly and letting players control the sun at level 1.
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Jul 6, 2018 21:52
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Lemon-Lime posted:Define what you mean by "high magic." I want it to be exactly like DBZ except everyone has a wizard hat
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Jul 6, 2018 21:53
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I can’t think of a magical version of DBZ that already exists.
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Lurdiak posted:Not at all. Skullgirls is mediocre definitely would like a loving thread for talking about a game without some pearl clutching cretin coming in every five pages or so to start a derail.
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Pollyanna posted:The system can handle actions by characters who intuitively weave magic as easily as mundane characters can move around. Fate Core does this pretty well.
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