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kimbo305 posted:But would that explain a droop that happens over days while the car is off? If the rods are broke it would stay down all the time. Bad sensor could cause a drop after a day or two. Seen them fail in all kinds of half stages. The rodeo is mainly for purging air out of the ABC system once it’s been opened for a repair.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Yeah, accumulators are basically the size of a softball and fairly easy to replace. There is a membrane inside of it with half of it filled with nitrogen. Membrane leaks...well that's where the fluid is going. Before or after the exhaust fires up? Before, no, besides intake whooshing. After, I'm not hearing anything over the exhaust. Does each corner have independent refilling/leveling of the strut? I thought in the last few drives before the replacement, that, shortly after startup, the rear left had some pump sound going on while, maybe to raise the corner back up? Also, holy poo poo, I didn't know Mercedes had its own implemementation of Citroen's suspension balls.
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I think they licensed Citroen's patent as Mercedes has been using that system on and off since the W114 S Class.
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kimbo305 posted:Called the shop, and Nick (who's Greek), said "yes, I calibrate. I make the car dance." 
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kimbo305 posted:Before or after the exhaust fires up? Before, no, besides intake whooshing. After, I'm not hearing anything over the exhaust. Granted mine is a 221 and not a 220 so I'm taking a quick guess here. The sound you are hearing from the back left is probably the air tank/compressor for your seats. Sounds like a faint whine. But no, no separate pumps. Also good you don't have any clunks. On mine, the leak was so minor I could hardly spot anything. Start the car cold and it literally felt/sounded like someone hitting the bottom of the car with a sledgehammer.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Granted mine is a 221 and not a 220 so I'm taking a quick guess here. The sound you are hearing from the back left is probably the air tank/compressor for your seats. Sounds like a faint whine. quote:But no, no separate pumps. Also good you don't have any clunks. On mine, the leak was so minor I could hardly spot anything. Start the car cold and it literally felt/sounded like someone hitting the bottom of the car with a sledgehammer. Will Star be able to diagnosis any specific part in the system as defective? If not, what part should I replace next? Is the valve replaceable as a unit?
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kimbo305 posted:
Perhaps, it has been a while since I've ran das/star/xentry (which is a good thing for me) but it is pretty incredible what you can do with it. It is fairly easy to use and in some cases gives suggestions on what to do. You can do the rodeo test for example. IIRC there is a calibration/normalization on the suspension levels but I can't quite remember the details. Whatever, should give you some answers. First thing to do is run the "test" in it that checks quite a few things and then look at the error log. One of the weird ones I had after replacing a hose/accumulator...a few months later I heard a ticking noise. For some drat reason the front left raised up to full height (it looked like a 4x4 on one corner) and was as stiff as a 2x4. So with star I told it to release the pressure* and took it in. They did the rodeo for a couple hours, everything seemed fine but it was the tandem pump which I expected since that was where the noise was coming from. Problem hasn't came back knock on wood. *I'll just warn you...and it will too...there are things that can kill or severely injure you. I know this might sound dumb but as I get older I feel compelled to give safety its respect. Dump the pressure through star it will shoot fluid everywhere and if someone has their fingers between the tire and fenders they will be amputated. Sit in the front seat with your laptop and pick normalize seats and it will be a scene out of Christine. Colostomy Bag fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jun 27, 2018 |
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STAR laptop came in the mail but I've been busy and too afraid to open it and get sucked in. The left rear stays up just fine for the first few days before it starts sagging, so I don't feel like I'm in a rush. The other day, it was only 95F or so, but too hot apparently for the rear privacy screen to come up. After the AC had been on for a while, I tried again, and the rear passenger lent a hand and helped the car push the screen up. She said it was burning hot. Is that part of the pneumatic system, or is it electric? Given that symptom, guessing pneumatic? Does the S65 have an LSD? Or is it cursed to one-wheel peel its puny 275 rear tires? Coming away from a light at a brisk pace, I heard the rear right chirping away with nary a light or intervention come up in the dash. The wheelbase is long enough that I didn't really notice anything besides the noise. Trying to pass people really fast on the highway, I heard what sounded like a wheel well rub during the acceleration. I was fully raised once, so would be surprised if that were it. But it was pretty consistently produceable -- I just build up speed dangerously fast trying to test it out. I really like the brakes, at least. Not supercar powerful given the weight, but good feel and pretty strong. I've driving it more in the manual mode (was mistaken about 2 manual modes -- the car was just in gears 1 and 2 respectively when I was looking!). I think the way it works (still haven't read the owner's manual online) is that it just tries to limit the top gear to shift into? It's pretty slow to respond, and it ignores you at low speed low load situations, but it does give you engine braking, which is nice. What's crazy, though, is if you're in an automatic shift mode and pull on the downshift paddle, it'll try to put it into 1M, aka top gear is 1st gear. I dunno what safteys are in place, but I don't really wanna try it out on the highway. The rubber boots around the folding part of the mirrors have been cracking out. The PO told me it was going to happen, and he also said that most DIYers cut the harness and resplice there instead of feeding it out from somewhere deep in the body. Anyone heard about that? 
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kimbo305 posted:STAR laptop came in the mail but I've been busy and too afraid to open it and get sucked in.
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Hell it has been a couple years so my memory is sort of hazy, but I think I picked up STAR 3 with Dell 610 laptop and the cables (which are somewhat amazing quality and quantity wise) for around $400 off of alibaba. And at that price it has been worth every penny.
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GPF posted:I want one of those so bad, but I can't justify dropping $700+ for it right now. I've got a Foxwell 520 Pro which gives tons of visibility as well as active tests and recoding. I still want the full STAR system, though. How much did you pay? It was 734 from DHGate. Shipped pretty quickly.
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And no LSD, relies on traction control which is somewhat laughable. Try driving it in the snow. (hint: try not to) 275 ain't real puny, but it is at this level of HP and torque and size of the car. Probably tried to balance ride quality/performance. But it is quite easy to wag the tail especially coming out of a corner.
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Colostomy Bag posted:275 ain't real puny, but it is at this level of HP and torque and size of the car. Probably tried to balance ride quality/performance. But it is quite easy to wag the tail especially coming out of a corner. Yeah, 275 isn't too bad. Weight helps I imagine, but we're talking over 700 ft-lbs.
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kimbo305 posted:Yeah, 275 isn't too bad. Weight helps I imagine, but we're talking over 700 ft-lbs. Do you have 18's or 19's?
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kimbo305 posted:The rubber boots around the folding part of the mirrors have been cracking out. The PO told me it was going to happen, and he also said that most DIYers cut the harness and resplice there instead of feeding it out from somewhere deep in the body. Anyone heard about that? If it's anything like my 2005 E320, it should be easy as anything to swap out. I never cut a wire if I can avoid it. I just clipped the hole a little bit and it stretched out fine, still doing a good job of wrapping around the wires. I'm not sure how deep into the door your wires go. Mine were directly under a panel that was accessed by opening the door. I'll bet there's a panel with an airvent in it that meets one in the dash when you close the door. If it's anything like my E, there should be connectors under that panel where the mirror electronics plug in.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Do you have 18's or 19's? 19s. I think that's the smallest option. I didn't research up-sizing the widths when I got these new tires. GPF posted:I just clipped the hole a little bit and it stretched out fine, still doing a good job of wrapping around the wires. Clipped the hole or clipped the rubber seal? And stretched meaning going around the mirror?
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kimbo305 posted:Clipped the hole or clipped the rubber seal? And stretched meaning going around the mirror? Clipped a little cut in the wire hole in the center of the seal.
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Get the DAS/Star unit yet? The ODB connector is sort of hit and miss due to how it designed. Don't let it get you down when trying to connect. As in, mess with it a little and then see if works. Don't assume the multiplexor is bad.
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Finally unpacked it all, just so I could charge up the laptop battery.  This peripheral is part of STAR? Is it made by Panasonic or Merdeces? It looks like the same as the rest of the Toughbook. What format is that giant plug? kimbo305 posted:I could 100% see this happening with my fiance: I keep seeing the W220 headlights on the local buses: 
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Hold up, what's happening on that magazine cover?
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Dagen H posted:Hold up, what's happening on that magazine cover? I think it's a Super GT replica. I haven't even read it yet, I'm so backed up with work. Forgot to link this shot of the laptop and the peripheral: 
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One other random and significant note -- it's insane how balanced the V12 is. No matter how hard you get on it, you really don't feel any per-piston vibration.
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Yeah that's the number one dope thing about v12s is the primary balance.
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Looks like an Amphenol mil-spec plug to me
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Dagen H posted:Hold up, what's happening on that magazine cover? Audi IMSA clone.
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kimbo305 posted:I think it's a Super GT replica. I haven't even read it yet, I'm so backed up with work. The peripheral is the multiplexer, which does all the actual work. The laptop is basically just to view what’s going on in the multiplexer. You can disconnect and restart your laptop, reconnect and be right back where you left off.
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Away this week but need to face my fears and at least hook the whole setup to the car when I get back.muckswirler posted:Yeah that's the number one dope thing about v12s is the primary balance. When it's in manual mode, the only way I notice it's revved up is from the sound -- it feels the same at 5k as at 1k.
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Short update: i loving love this car, and i loving hate this car Last weekend, I had a bike ride in western Massachusetts, about 2 hours away. Carefully stuffed my road bike sans front wheel into the back seat. Was running about an hour late, but just loving put the hammer down on the open roads. The transmission is still not great, but the torque more than makes up for it. Ended up coming in just ahead of the start time, but didn't matter since my friends were late. After a full day's ride, packed back into the car and make a 3.5 hour ride up to NH to a friend's bachelor party. Already in progress, so again really hammered on the empty roads. I remember in the Z06, the car was very stable and composed past 90, but it would get uncomfortably loud from the wind going past all the seams and edges. In the S65, wind noise isn't really an issue even up to 100. Certainly floatier, but that's part of the formula -- I didn't have to white knuckle it at all. I was getting lazy and had to stop myself from just driving with one hand resting on the armrest. The next morning, less than 10 hours parked, the left rear was already sagged pretty bad. What the hell? I've driven it a few times since and haven't seen the drop rate be that bad since. When it's in its highway devouring element, the S65 is really excellent. But whenever some random glitch crops up, it just makes me wonder. Still haven't put together the STAR kit -- just in a funk with some condo renovation disputes with the neighbors. Newly discovered glitches: - the headlight on indicator LED beside the light control comes on and off on its own. - the rear headrest are tied into the pneumatic system, so they like to recline into the unused mode on their own schedule - with the rubber cover off the trunk open button, it takes either 2 or 3 clicks to open the trunk. And it likes to gently close after it's open for maybe 10s. - this isn't a glitch, but just a construction quirk: The shape of the windshield glass reflects the top chrome trim of the wood paneling on the dash, and makes it look like a crack in the glass at certain angles of the sun. I haven't captured the effect in the day, but here's what the "crack" looks like at night:  I think the biggest let down of this car for me is that auto transmission. What a crazy vehicle it would be with a stick.
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https://www.eurocharged.com/products/-en106/65-series-performance-transmission-software
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wallaka posted:https://www.eurocharged.com/products/-en106/65-series-performance-transmission-software I don’t have experience with their s65 stuff, but Eurocharged wasn’t ever able to give me a good TCU tune on my ‘05 E55 that would both firm up shifts and let me do unmitigated burnouts. The latter part was frankly more important at the time and across 2 or 3 TCUs we never got it figured out. I also used them for the e55’s engine tune as well as for our X5M’s tune but I didn’t really notice much of a difference post-tune on either car... While I don’t see people having issues with Eurocharged, I question how effective their tunes actually are.
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1) Heh, on mine (w221) the trunk button is flaky. It feels like it has a mind of its own. Curious if you tried a firmware upgrade of the trunk module controller via DAS/STAR. 2) It would be a hoot with a manual... When you "get on it" the car doesn't really start feeling its oats until the 60-70 mph range. I mean sure, it is quite a crap your pants moment when starting slow and you gun it. But at that point the big twelve and turbos going full bore you are breaking the law in most cases before it can really shine. But going back to the manual part...wouldn't be fun trying to park in a lot. But at the same time, the engine could couldn't care less what gear you were in. Didn't realize the headrests on the w220 were pneumatic.
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In some of the other threads people were questioning "what's the difference between 500hp and 600hp?" Of course you're not always gonna be using the max power of the car, but it's still there, and someone actually pulls out of the passing lane after sitting there for a half a mile, feeling the car spool up, downshift, and push you to 100mph in a few seconds is something else. Colostomy Bag posted:But going back to the manual part...wouldn't be fun trying to park in a lot. But at the same time, the engine could couldn't care less what gear you were in. KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:what did you do with the SAAB 300hp coupled with smarter shifting is totally adequate around town. Having fold-down back seats means it's the beater car for hauling stuff from Home Depot.
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kimbo305 posted:In some of the other threads people were questioning "what's the difference between 500hp and 600hp?" Yeah, sort of the point I was making. I'm not quite sure where mine will end up but thinking the tune route with the transmission, better intercooler pump, ECM, etc. Should hit around 700HP at that point. Might as well go out with a bang. I always find it funny when I have someone else drive the car.
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kimbo305 posted:
Yeah, that's not good. Kind of curious what angle of grade you are talking about. On mine it has an inclination sensor so it applies back brakes on hills. Not sure on the W220.
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Slopes where I would tell myself to make sure to clutch out promptly to not roll back too much on a manual. So noticeably steep. But yeah, it's one of those hmmmmm areas of the car.
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I personally can't stand the Comfort setting on the E63, and will change it to Sport immediately.
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Eurocharged is a lot cheaper than Renntech, but I'm not super fond of removing the ECU and TCU and mailing them off to get modified.
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kimbo305 posted:Eurocharged is a lot cheaper than Renntech, but I'm not super fond of removing the ECU and TCU and mailing them off to get modified. You can do remote ECU tunes with Eurocharged through various tune-box or software + OBD2 cable methods but yeah. The reason I ended up with 2 TCUs to begin with was due to shipping one off and still being able to drive the car in the meantime.
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