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oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CIGNX posted:

You do not need fat face to have much face





Holy poo poo, they have landed and we are not alone in the universe.

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GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*


Nice knowing you Dean

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Dean's organs have been removed and repurposed, the coroner's report is, died of organ irregularities.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

oohhboy posted:

Holy poo poo, they have landed and we are not alone in the universe.

The Drake Equation was right

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

I found this quite amusing:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Whatcouldgowrong/comments/8x05b4/tapping_an_officers_hat_wcgw/

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Not sure why I can't get the gif to display, I tried img, timg, video...

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.
stealing an officers sunglasses

you better believe that’s a paddlin

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
I had a date with the cutest little foreign lady today. She's been working for years on an expired tourist visa (as in she was supposed to leave China years ago after her visa expired, and she never left and it's now sunk-cost). I want to write the story, but I am so tired. I'll write it tomorrow, but I feel sorry for her. She'll be in jail eventually unless she can find a boat to help her escape to Hong Kong or something.

A foreigner taking a legal fight in China? He'll never get out of jail.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Bajaj posted:

I had a date with the cutest little foreign lady today. She's been working for years on an expired tourist visa (as in she was supposed to leave China years ago after her visa expired, and she never left and it's now sunk-cost). I want to write the story, but I am so tired. I'll write it tomorrow, but I feel sorry for her. She'll be in jail eventually unless she can find a boat to help her escape to Hong Kong or something.

"Foreign" is a pretty ambiguous word to use in this context. Did you finally give up and start dating Russians?

And wtf man, when did I ever say that I'm a doctor? You caused me to lose some serious face in that other thread.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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lol bribery -is- the legal route

do they think that they are in a country with the rule of law

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Bajaj posted:

A foreigner taking a legal fight in China? He'll never get out of jail.

I liked that TV series about people getting trapped in foreign jails. I liked how in many stories they could have just paid the judge a "fine" for the bad behavior instead of having to go through the jail experience.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
Either they literally have no money to pay the bribe and are trying to save face about it or they think they're the prophesied foreigner who will show the corrupt locals the error of their ways and bring justice to the land.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Fojar38 posted:

lol bribery -is- the legal route

do they think that they are in a country with the rule of law

See this is the weird part about bribery.

While bribery is still quite rampant, it has transformed masked as “regulatory fines”, consultancy fees, or some other opaque cost - you just can’t stuff cash in a bag of teas and leave it in your back seat anymore. You need to do that kind of funny business physically out of China ( I know).

If you want to bribe a judge, the success depends on the nature of the case. If it’s a big case involving millions in a civil without the government and judgement can go either way, then yes a bribe might help but it better be loving big.

If it’s a small time case involving drugs or assault or the evidence is quite strong then it makes no sense for the judge to risk his career for a bribe. Unless the person charged is protected then that’s another matter.

Same with your regular officials dealing with environmental and fire safety and construction issues - the scope is smaller so they can collect more. Even with the clamped down social media judges take a lot more heat.

Multi national companies working in China do not and will not outright bribe

- the scandal is international and just too much to bear
- there’s not big boss and everyone is just working for a conglomerate so no one can make these kind of decisions
- they have enough money to throw the book back at the officials. In 2 days they can summon a team of different specialists and lawyers and accountants and people with government experience to argue point by point
- your small town officials will probably just throw his hands up in the air when he’s surrounded by smart people
- and multinational companies rather do everything above ground and spend god knows how much to dispute

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
For the record I do not have experience in bribing and do not bribe

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I rather admit that I fell asleep in my house during a goon bbq and left my computer on. My friends then made a post about me being a rent boy in Vancouver.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
Have Chinese officials started using the trick where companies donate money to a nonprofit that happens to employ your family members?

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless
The six kinds of 5000 years of Chinese male hair cuts:

1. The Circle
2. The Square (aka The Buzzcut)
3. The Flat-Top
4. The Tall Swoosh
5. The Plop
6. The Bowlcut

If a Mainland male has anything other than listed above, he is deemed to have been influenced too much by Koreans or Westerners, and he loses Sesame Credit points.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Just to play devils advocate

Justice in amerikkka is non existent for black and poor people. Black people getting shot up by cops barely face any repercussions and get paid administrative leave. Rich white kids speeding a car can use ennui as a legal defense and get away.

White male college athletes can commit rape and get a slap on the wrist.
Your rural small town is corrupt as hell when it comes to elections and the incestuous relationships between the cops and judges.
In fact even in your bigger cities as long as your defense lawyer worked as a a District attorney you would be a lot safer.
Oh and district attorneys need money to run for elections and are super chummy with judges, especially when it comes to divorce court.

SO RULE OF LAW IN AMERICA IS JUST AS WEAK AND THERES NO REAL FREEDOM FOR POOR PEOPLE THERE - something the real pro prc Lao wai or even fart Simpson would say.

I just want to say thankfully America is not the only country with rule of law and is actually pretty far down the list according to the transparency perceptions index for a developed country. Even if a country have all these glaring issues you actually see a slow albeit open process of reform and news don’t get covered up. Media bias, yes but outright pull the plug on news and transparency - nope!

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
It’s all true

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

Pirate Radar posted:

Have Chinese officials started using the trick where companies donate money to a nonprofit that happens to employ your family members?

Yeah it was the Chinese Red Cross and this chick took a lot of money out of the Sichuan earth quake donation fund.

And 15 years ago during a big flood in zhejiang, Chinese officials asked manufacturing businesses for a donation - not much of a trace.

I think over the years I’m kind of cynical about a lot of NGOs - the way they maintain expenses and the sleazy dudes they keep on rotations.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:
I am extremely confused about the rent boy tale

Spent all day yesterday with my kids at the Maker Faire at PolyU. Used the time to read the Paul Midler book. Not as funny as the first one, but agree with the general thesis that a lot of the mindset we ascribe to post-1949 China actually has much deeper roots. Reading a historiography of "Foreign visitors complain Chinese people act like X" would actually be quite interesting.

Imperialist Dog fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jul 9, 2018

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

caberham posted:

Yeah it was the Chinese Red Cross and this chick took a lot of money out of the Sichuan earth quake donation fund.


Oh hey, I remember that. It was when she started flashing around Gucci and Sports Cars, right?

Bajaj
Sep 13, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Imperialist Dog posted:

Reading a historiography of "Foreign visitors complain Chinese people act like X" would actually be quite interesting.
Pretty much every book about China (and Japan, and also India, since writers back then loved to compare their travel tales) on Project Gutenberg will give a good dose of this. I remember trying to read one by a missionary in China in the late 1800s or maybe early 1900s, and he was basically like "Ugh, Japanese women are so gross with their stupid bow legs and kawaii pigeon toe walk and black teeth and white face make up. These Chinese women are direct in manner and brown skinned and don't act loving stupid like those loving JAPANESE WHORES."

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Pirate Radar posted:

Have Chinese officials started using the trick where companies donate money to a nonprofit that happens to employ your family members?

Yeah, this is how they buy Canadian politicians.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

As if there was ever any doubt.

"Mysterious source of illegal ozone-killing emissions revealed, say investigators
On-the-ground investigation finds use of banned CFC-11 is rife in China’s plastic foam industry"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/09/mysterious-source-of-illegal-ozone-killing-emissions-revealed-say-investigators

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
From that article:

"A representative of one company, Aoyang Chemical Co, in Dacheng, Hebei province, told the EIA that 99% of its foams used CFC-11, bought from “shady and hidden” factories in Inner Mongolia. Another, from the nearby Wan Fu Chemical Co, said it was easy to avoid inspections: “When the municipal environmental bureau runs a check, our local officers would call me and tell me to shut down my factory. Our workers just gather and hide together.”

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:

fish and chips and dip posted:

From that article:

"A representative of one company, Aoyang Chemical Co, in Dacheng, Hebei province, told the EIA that 99% of its foams used CFC-11, bought from “shady and hidden” factories in Inner Mongolia. Another, from the nearby Wan Fu Chemical Co, said it was easy to avoid inspections: “When the municipal environmental bureau runs a check, our local officers would call me and tell me to shut down my factory. Our workers just gather and hide together.”

somebody post the gif of the investigators going into the illegal factory and the worker literally crawling into the machinery and closing the hatch behind him

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I think they can just schedule a check up on a Sunday or the evening when everything is closed or Chinese New Year lol

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Or just walk around the outside building and call it a day

fish and chips and dip
Feb 17, 2010
I had a friend who managed a German owned construction supplies factory in Zhejiang province somewhere. He said that they had to follow all the environmental regulations to the letter, filters on smokestacks, how to dispose of waste (hazardous and non hazardous), proper ventilation, everything. There were frequent controls, and if they didn't they'd get severely fined, or could face closure.

He also said that next to his factory where two factories owned by the local government, and he would often see the workers dumping chemicals down the drains in front of the factory, they would burn tires in the front yard, and on days when the gate to the factory building was open, he could see thick dust or smoke inside. This was in 2014.

The problem is that still even today a lot of the municipalities, towns, and cities still very much rely on the factories they own for their wealth (personal, and public), so there is little to no incentive to police those too hard.

And yeah, you can say that things have gotten better, and they have in some ways, at least in Beijing and Shanghai. But the environmental problems isn't really fixed, it's just moved inland, away from the "flagship" cities, where it's less visible, but no less destructive. I spent four days in Shanxi (the heart of China's coal industry), and after those four days my new pm2.5 mask was as black and dirty as masks I've been using for a month or more in Shanghai.

tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die

caberham posted:

I rather admit that I fell asleep in my house during a goon bbq and left my computer on. My friends then made a post about me being a rent boy in Vancouver.

a chinese fuckbuddy of mine back in tokyo kept his lights on for the first two years of his life there as a gay rentboy: AMA

some hosed up stuff:
1. he was 14 when he got there (i did not meet or plunge until he was like 27 before you ask!)
2. condoms? no no we don't have those in asia, because japanese don't have AIDS, unlike westerners who all do
3. he once turned up at this dudes house and they paid him an extra couple 10000 yen notes to "handle the whole group" and it turned out to be like 15 dudes

hosed up

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Okamoto is famous for its condom tech and it’s record for thinnest condom just got beat by some fake rear end Chinese company. The new Chinese record holder condom company makes bad condoms

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

caberham posted:

Okamoto is famous for its condom tech and it’s record for thinnest condom just got beat by some fake rear end Chinese company. The new Chinese record holder condom company makes bad condoms

Yeah, but they're the thinnest and therefore the best.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Pound me in the rear end pls

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
The “I don’t need to use condoms/get tested” thing seems to be common across Asia.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I'm sure Chinese condoms are terrible quality but Jissbon is the best condom brand name ever.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Yeah, alot of fake Durex break very easily

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Kharnifex posted:

Yeah, alot of fake Durex break very easily

They lube em up with cheap mineral oils too, mmm genital carcinogens

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Kharnifex posted:

Yeah, alot of fake Durex break very easily

I had Durex I got in HK break 3 goddamn times

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Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Yeah, I'll stick to Ansell ones not made in china

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