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With that said, even our "organized" extremist left (Kommunisterna) has abandoned Stalin / Mao-larping and replaced the political program with something more akin to something the SocDems of yesteryear would recognize.   Hilariously, this has also resulted in the other extreme left party (SKP) flipping their poo poo due to abandoning said Tankie-cosplay. https://skp.se/2018/07/01/uttalande-angaende-sveriges-kommunistiska-parti-och-kommunistiska-partiet/
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Cardiac posted:Gee, and here I thought V did their best to outlaw profits on private schools? It's not like you're going to face a massive uphill battle with corporate interests complete with interlocking boards in the media congolmerates if you talk about maybe not entirely deindustrializing the nation. Got to get that EFFICIENCY and FREE TRADE running. The entire media narrative is tilted so hard towards neoliberalism at this point that Irene Svenonius has somehow managed to not get booted out of Landstinget. Nobody is talking about Göran Hägglund or Filippa Reinfeldt being on the board for private healthcare initiatives.
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Retarded Goatee posted:I don't think even V has made a stink about nationalizing NKS and just noping out of the entire OPS-scheme for all eternity. It's not that simple...?  I mean buying out the contract early has financial implications too and it's not a coincidence that suggesting buying it out was the panicked alternative of M's leader in the midst of her own corruption scandal. Unless your case is that we should just seize the hospital in which case welcome to problem being in the EU which would fine us to hell and back (and if you've forgotten, V is actually for leaving the EU). If I haven't misunderstood the parties the oppositions pitch in Stockholms Län is to get out from under the contract as cheaply as possible (whether that be through suing, lobbying for change in national legislation or buying out the contract early) but there's no clear-cut alternative were just don't get to pay under the current framework for the Moderates lovely contract. Cardiac posted:As for the economic parts, since V is the best you get in forms of socialism in Sweden, I would say there is a certain lack of people wanting to vote for something like that. But feel free to start a new party on that. We are a democracy after all, with all the pros and cons. Pretty much. There was a wholehearted attempt in V's election congress by numerous influential actors within the party to pass an even more radical economic reform package (lets be honest, V's current election platform is already radical by this elections standards) but they couldn't find a majority. Bigger changes might come next election, but there will first have to be a good old economic crisis for there to be acceptance for drastic economic reforms among the broader electorate.
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MiddleOne posted:It's not that simple...? Obviously not - but I don't think the lack of at least aggressive posturing is doing the cause any favors at all. Even if it's far-flung, at least it would present people with an alternative. But since our brainwaves are controlled by perfidious stalinist journalists who have infiltrated SvT/DN/Närke Allehanda/Säffle Gårdsnytt, you'd think there would at least be an attempt at creating a narrative around the loving issue.
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DN has been the hardest driver for NKS scandal by far, how many layers of 'gently caress the mainstream media' are you on? 
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That's actually a valid point and I probably should stop angry-posting prior to the first cup of coffee. I'm just venting my frustration regarding the fact that we somehow still ended up with an extremely expensive hospital on a god drat lease contract until the year 2050 and nobody has paid the price for taking extremely lovely decisons yet. 
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Retarded Goatee posted:I'm just venting my frustration regarding the fact that we somehow still ended up with an extremely expensive hospital on a god drat lease contract until the year 2050 and nobody has paid the price for taking extremely lovely decisons yet. 
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Vem kunde ana att politikerna skulle ge sig själva och sina kollegor ansvarsfrihet?
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Potrzebie posted:Vem kunde ana att politikerna skulle ge sig själva och sina kollegor ansvarsfrihet? Helt klart inte vem som än skrev jäv paragraferna i kommunallagen, om det senaste årtiondet är någon indikation.
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Those contracts seem to just prioritize 1. avoiding any kind of responsibility, 2. maximizing private profits and 3. making it as hard as possible to get rid off.  Då finns det en uppenbar risk Att man på bolagets stämma Inte kan se hur den sjuke blir frisk Retarded Goatee posted:With that said, even our "organized" extremist left (Kommunisterna) has abandoned Stalin / Mao-larping and replaced the political program with something more akin to something the SocDems of yesteryear would recognize. Poil fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jul 6, 2018 |
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Kommunisterna (beyond the aggressively un-strategic name) has the main problem of having a party programme which is 90% Vänsterpartiets. If they wanted to be relevant they would have needed to find their current leader 10 years ago.
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In other news, it's an extremely dry summer (again), some municipalities are already instituting rationing of drinking water, and LRF (national farmer's association) is going on about crisis plans and begging for grass from public land. https://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=6994211 https://www.svd.se/vadjan-till-markagare-hjalp-lantbrukarna
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MiddleOne posted:You can tell that it's KD's day in Almedalen by the fact that almost every newssite won't put anything about it on their front-page. LoL they are gonna go out in a whimper and I’ll be laughing.
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Cardiac posted:As far as I have understood from the the reporting, this is a failure of the police in not being able to contain the nazis by not being there and being stupid in not realizing that putting nazis next to LGBT is going to be trouble. As far as I have understand the nazis are doing a great job of suppressing minorities despite being "disorganized and completely ostracized from society".
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I'll be honest, I don't understand why people vote for parties that don't have Pelle in them. He and Yanis Varoufakis were definitely my Folkemøde highlights.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I'll be honest, I don't understand why people vote for parties that don't have Pelle in them. He and Yanis Varoufakis were definitely my Folkemøde highlights. I can understand why people vote for parties with Pelle in them, but definitely not because of him. Nevermind that he's empirically wrong about literally every single point in the plastic nationalist post and apparently doesn't extend his distaste for "identity politics" to Danishness, he's one of the driving forces behind the party turning 1970s Social Democrat (his dream is to revive ØD) and mostly abandoning extraparliamentary work. He also co-authored a feminism program that claimed social control was an exclusively "ethnic" problem and he's generally just dishonest and cowardly when engaging in debate, especially when it's with fellow party members that won't toe the line—I've seen it happen enough times to ignore it. Seriously, he's a former AFA who now calls cops "welfare heroes" and asks why you're patriotic. You don't think it's just a little disingenuous?
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According to HRS Syria is totally safe now, it's not like the syrian government would lie about something like that.
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Yeah I'm sure the nation that's been busy stuffing stuffing dissenters into literal concentration camps for most of the civil war is going to be great to return to.
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Passende at opprinnelig kilde er Breitbart.
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MiddleOne posted:Yeah I'm sure the nation that's been busy stuffing stuffing dissenters into literal concentration camps for most of the civil war is going to be great to return to. I have a Syrian guy on my team at work who came here in... 2014? Before the worst really began in any case. He got his residence permit, learned to speak pretty good Swedish and now has a steady job in IT, so that’s worked out well, but last fall when he had to renew his Syrian passport he told me he was putting it off because he was seriously worried that something would happen to him if he went to the embassy. He also told me the expat community was really careful about what they wrote on social media, because the regime has ears everywhere and could potentially reach dissenters even in Sweden. Anecdotes of course, but it should tell you what the Syrians themselves feel about going back. TheFluff fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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Yeah I also have a colleague from syria, also a model of integration, and if you suggested moving back with his young child he'd probably laugh you out of his office. poo poo's no safe yo.
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https://www.aftenposten.no/meninger/debatt/i/zL1j59/Kort-sagt_-mandag-9-juli Jeg blir litt lei av de borgerlige hele tiden trekker fram foreldreundersøkelser som bevis på hvor gode private barnehager er. Ikke misforstå, foreldreundersøkelser er et godt verktøy for å jobbe med hva vi kan gjøre bedre, men det er et ganske dårlig politisk verktøy. Foreldreundersøkelser kan ikke dekke over at det er for få voksne per barn og at det er enda mindre voksne per barn i private barnehager (fordi det er den eneste måten man kan tjene penger på barnehager).
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evil_bunnY posted:Yeah I also have a colleague from syria, also a model of integration, and if you suggested moving back with his young child he'd probably laugh you out of his office. poo poo's no safe yo. Honestly though, if you have a small child, why would you ever move away from Sweden? Daycare, maternity/paternity leave, taking care of sick kids are things on completely different levels than other industrialized countries, not to mention a war torn country like Syria.
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Cardiac posted:Honestly though, if you have a small child, why would you ever move away from Sweden? I'mp pretty sure the fact that kids aren't killed in Sweden, unlike Syria, is more important to parents than any of those things.
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Alhazred posted:I'mp pretty sure the fact that kids aren't killed in Sweden, unlike Syria, is more important to parents than any of those things. Cardiac posted:Honestly though, if you have a small child, why would you ever move away from Sweden? I'm sure he's more concerned with the whole "not hiding from mortar shells in your tub" deal tho
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Alhazred posted:I'mp pretty sure the fact that kids aren't killed in Sweden, unlike Syria, is more important to parents than any of those things. I thought that was completely obvious from my post? In other news, apparently the Afghan amnesty is currently on hold due to the Migration court refusing to use the law due to the massive flaws in it. Which the Law council pointed out long before it was voted on. The hilarious part: Apparently it was due to changes C put into the proposition, whereas the Mp+S version was better in that sense. So C managed to both split Alliansen on an issue as well as loving up making a functioning rule out of it. Which ever side that ends up with C after the election is going to eat a massive poisoned pill, in the same way S did with Mp.
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evil_bunnY posted:Kid's past the leave/daycare age but yeah. Other countries are so backwards. I lived in the netherlands before; paternity leave is 5 *days* My siblings live abroad so I get to hear a lot about the differences from Sweden. As example, my sisters husband in UK had to ask permission from his employer to take unpaid parental leave. Or when they realised why their friends in Sweden with kids always seemed to have long vacations. 480 days per kid, where you can take fewer than 7 days a week to save days and use them up until the age of 12 goes a long way to make summer vacations long.
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Danskene er inne på noe med obligatorisk barnehage. Men å kun kreve det for etniske minoriterer blir kontraproduktivt, det kommer til å produsere ekstremt mye motvilje og ekstremisme. Ingen liker å bli uthengt. Jeg sier heller obligatorisk offentlig barnehage for alle. Private og ideelle bør legges ned slik at alle barnehager tilbyr den samme indoktrineringen ( utdanningsektorens nest viktigste funksjon). Politiet kommer ikke å henter ungen hvis du nekter men da kan du også glemme alt som heter kontanststøtte eller barnetrygd eller tilsvarende barnesubsidierende ordninger.
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Baudolino posted:Jeg sier heller obligatorisk offentlig barnehage for alle. Private og ideelle bør legges ned slik at alle barnehager tilbyr den samme indoktrineringen ( utdanningsektorens nest viktigste funksjon).  Men rammeplanen gjelder faktisk for både private (ideelle barnehager er også private) og offentlige barnehager. Du kan ikke velge hva slags innhold du skal ha i barnehagen (du skal for eksempel innlemme fagområdene i det pedagogiske arbeidet), men du kan velge hvordan du vil formidle innholdet. Alhazred fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Jul 9, 2018 |
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They want to teach 1-year-olds democracy by forcing their parents, one or both of whom are possibly already on special immigrant welfare that is literally 50% of the normal rate, to comply with draconian legislation that promises to strip them of child benefits if they refuse. The money is coming from renovation funds dutifully paid by residents for decades. Oh, people on welfare get to foot part of the bill as well.
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Alhazred posted:rammeplanen lol
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Jon Helgheim fra FrP mener regjeringen betaler for at forskere skal lyve om menneskeskapte klimaendringer men har tydeligvis glemt hvem som sitter i regjering og hvilket parti finansministeren kommer fra.
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Cardiac posted:In other news, apparently the Afghan amnesty is currently on hold due to the Migration court refusing to use the law due to the massive flaws in it. Which the Law council pointed out long before it was voted on. Hopefully it doesn't fall in the upper court but since the process was legitimately rushed it's completely up in the air (and the law has a September deadline because it's just that much of a hatchet-job). Key part to note here though was that in Malmös migration court 3/4fths of the people to make the ruling decision were: A: The local judge who was vocally critical of the law in the proposition process B: Two swedish democrats Which means that in upper court were the decision will be made by strictly unvested judges we could get a complete different outcome. Also, unclear legislation getting bounced upwards so that a precedent can be set in a higher court is not a cause for panic, it is how our legal system is supposed to function. Though it does bear mentioning that critiquing the law itself is not usually the reason given.  Of course none of this would have ever been necessary if the government could just stop being hypocrites for five seconds and either make MigV re-assess the security status of Afghanistan (it is literally in full civil war) or by scrapping the temporary changes to UtlL (never happening, even if the Social Democrats get a majority in parliament).
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SplitSoul posted:I can understand why people vote for parties with Pelle in them, but definitely not because of him. Nevermind that he's empirically wrong about literally every single point in the plastic nationalist post and apparently doesn't extend his distaste for "identity politics" to Danishness, he's one of the driving forces behind the party turning 1970s Social Democrat (his dream is to revive ØD) and mostly abandoning extraparliamentary work. He also co-authored a feminism program that claimed social control was an exclusively "ethnic" problem and he's generally just dishonest and cowardly when engaging in debate, especially when it's with fellow party members that won't toe the line—I've seen it happen enough times to ignore it. Dangit, I didn't know anything about the guy until I saw him at Folkemødet and he only had to tear down people like Rasmus Jarlov. I only really brought him up because I was sure someone here would have the scoop on his baggage. Are there any prominent politicians that don't have loads of baggage? I feel like everyone is garbage when you know enough about them. I just want to root for cool individuals. I don't follow Danish politics that closely because I've never been given a reason to vote for anything to the right of Ø, and it's exhausting to learn that everyone is poo poo. Baudolino posted:Danskene er inne på noe med obligatorisk barnehage. Men å kun kreve det for etniske minoriterer blir kontraproduktivt, det kommer til å produsere ekstremt mye motvilje og ekstremisme. Ingen liker å bli uthengt. Mandatory kindergarten is a fine idea in a vacuum (and we have mandatory schooling from the age of 6, I think), but mandatory indoctrination school for 1-year-olds is very far from that.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:Are there any prominent politicians that don't No. Like, there are lots of good people in Ø and especially SUF, the parliamentary group just has a bunch of career seekers and HB is often misguided. You know it's inevitable when there are rumblings of ditching stuff like term limits. SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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