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yeah I eat rear end posted:I am pretty irritated that I spend the past hour and a half watching Super Troopers 2. It's just so aggressively uninteresting. All it is is the characters saying "hey remember that joke we made in the first one?", with some tired "lol Canada" jokes sprinkled in.
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Peeny Cheez posted:Well, if the past 17 years have shown us anything, it's that Broken Lizard sucks and Super Troopers was a fluke. Beerfest is okay, especially if you're drinking But yeaaaaaaah they're not actually that talented or funny
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Yeah I saw ST2 yesterday too. It didn’t make me laugh once. To me, the thing about Super Troopers, Anchorman and Zoolander sorts of comedies is that the concept itself is funny, making the characters fun and original. Staple in a sequel with the same, now unoriginal, concept and it’s going to be bland. There was no way to make a good Super Troopers 2.
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I got thirty minutes into Zoolander 2, thought I was an hour and a half in, and shut it off. I never shut movies off but holy poo poo what an intensely unfunny movie. The only good joke I saw was how the Derek Zoolander School For Kids Who Want To Read Good burned down because they made it out of the same materials as the model.
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Mu Zeta posted:The final battle in Guy Ritchie's King Arthur is straight out of Dark Souls. Me, from last year while doing my first playthrough of Witcher III NoneMoreNegative posted:I watched the Guy Ritchie 'King Arthur' the other night and it had a bit of a Witcher-y vibe; 'low fantasy', a grimy city setting, a sorceress, a mad king, magic swords, a destiny quest, big rear end bad guys with big swords at the end. If you're stuck for entertainment you might dig it.
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RBA Starblade posted:I got thirty minutes into Zoolander 2, thought I was an hour and a half in, and shut it off. I never shut movies off but holy poo poo what an intensely unfunny movie. The only good joke I saw was how the Derek Zoolander School For Kids Who Want To Read Good burned down because they made it out of the same materials as the model. Zoolander was obviously going to suck from the trailer, where Zoolander misunderstands the title "Zoolander II" as 'zoolander eye eye', and not 'Zoolander eleven'. If they mess up easy gags like that (even if the better version still isn't that funny), I can't imagine how badly the rest of the humor flops
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Jul 9, 2018 22:53
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Man, the narrator really ruins Idiocracy.
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Jul 9, 2018 23:05
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Alhazred posted:Man, the narrator really ruins Idiocracy. While everything could be improved, Idiocracy isn't a ruin, so this must be false
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Jul 9, 2018 23:19
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The Bloop posted:While everything could be improved, Idiocracy isn't a ruin, so this must be false Idiocracy has its faults but Rupert Murdoch shut that poo poo down when he saw what happened to his Beloved Fox News Journalists(tm) So it didn't get finished and was left to lie on the floor of two different theaters. Two of them, nice release.
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Jul 10, 2018 00:29
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RBA Starblade posted:I got thirty minutes into Zoolander 2, thought I was an hour and a half in, and shut it off. I never shut movies off but holy poo poo what an intensely unfunny movie. The only good joke I saw was how the Derek Zoolander School For Kids Who Want To Read Good burned down because they made it out of the same materials as the model. It and Anchorman 2 had quite a few good jokes like Hansel getting an orgy that included Keifer Sutherland pregnant. The problem is that a few good jokes don't make an entire movie. You could feel their hearts just weren't in it.
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Jul 10, 2018 01:09
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Push El Burrito posted:It and Anchorman 2 had quite a few good jokes like Hansel getting an orgy that included Keifer Sutherland pregnant. The problem is that a few good jokes don't make an entire movie. You could feel their hearts just weren't in it. Seems the epitome of too little too late.
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Jul 10, 2018 01:39
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Push El Burrito posted:It and Anchorman 2 had quite a few good jokes like Hansel getting an orgy that included Keifer Sutherland pregnant. The problem is that a few good jokes don't make an entire movie. You could feel their hearts just weren't in it. Adam McKay wasn't interested in making Anchorman 2, he only did it because it let him make The Big Short.
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Jul 10, 2018 01:44
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I never watched Anchorman 2 but I enjoyed watching the even more exaggerated newsmen brawl on youtube. They should've just made that.
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Jul 10, 2018 01:49
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syscall girl posted:Idiocracy has its faults but Rupert Murdoch shut that poo poo down when he saw what happened to his Beloved Fox News Journalists(tm) What?
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Jul 10, 2018 01:51
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Biplane posted:What? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upbiV8NOUb0 it was released in 2 theaters Unfinished with all the polish off and looking and sounding idk can you solve the mystery?
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Jul 10, 2018 01:58
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Samuringa posted:I never watched Anchorman 2 but I enjoyed watching the even more exaggerated newsmen brawl on youtube. They should've just made that. When I saw it on youtube, I couldn't help but cringe. The original executed it in a way that felt natural, while that one felt forced and also trying to hard to top the first.
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Jul 10, 2018 02:07
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On the top of sequels to cult comedies: Hot Tub Time Machine 2. That movie had almost no heart to it and actually like it was a mean-spirited sequel and I really think it was a rushed script for filming and not the original plan for the movie. I think once they realized they weren't getting Cusack back and they weren't getting a big budget, they weren't going to waste the material. But in terms of comedy sequels, I get the 'resetting' is a thing, though. That the first film will have something in it that audience will really connect with and even if they move past it by the end of that movie, the sequel brings it back around and doubles down on it and the characters didn't learn a thing. But at some point it feels like a parody of itself than something unique.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:I am pretty irritated that I spend the past hour and a half watching Super Troopers 2. It's just so aggressively uninteresting. All it is is the characters saying "hey remember that joke we made in the first one?", with some tired "lol Canada" jokes sprinkled in. They had new / built on jokes from the first but alot of jokes were basically I bet you thought we were gonna do the same joke from the first one we arent. Trolling an expecting audience is funny to me so i liked it. I like broken lizard to much. the only move that is meh to me is club dread
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Jul 10, 2018 04:55
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snergle posted:They had new / built on jokes from the first but alot of jokes were basically I bet you thought we were gonna do the same joke from the first one we arent. Trolling an expecting audience is funny to me so i liked it. The problem was the new jokes were bad jokes. It was mostly just "canadians are polite and say eh a lot" and "french accents are hilarious right" etc. To me it was one of the most disappointing comedy movie sequels I've seen. I would say most, but those sequels to Dumb and Dumber exist.
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Jul 10, 2018 04:59
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Zaphod42 posted:Beerfest is okay, especially if you're drinking
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The type of comedies that are Super Troopers and others tend to build up way more pre-release hype than box office rewards, but they'll sometimes find a second life in the home video market. I remember when Pick of Destiny was getting hyped to all hell and back by just about everyone a decade ago just to have it mostly fade in and out of theaters with under $10M.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:The problem was the new jokes were bad jokes. It was mostly just "canadians are polite and say eh a lot" and "french accents are hilarious right" etc. To me it was one of the most disappointing comedy movie sequels I've seen. I would say most, but those sequels to Dumb and Dumber exist. I thought alot of the new humor was mostly at highlighting absurdities in canadian society. Like the ex hockey strip club owner mayor. A politician was pretty much that in canada. They also built on old jokes like the liter of cola then the canadian shenanigans actually having it and then farva uping the ante to 10 liters of cola for free desert. The part I didn't like was them pretending to be the mounties that was 100% rehash. Youre not wrong alot of jokes are just LOL @ canadian / french canandian accents. but even those jokes had some gems like will sasso pretending to not know that danny devito is frank reynolds.
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Jul 10, 2018 05:48
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syscall girl posted:Idiocracy has its faults but Rupert Murdoch shut that poo poo down when he saw what happened to his Beloved Fox News Journalists(tm) One of the great little jokes in Idiocracy is that while everything else becomes dumber, Fox News more or less stays the same because it was already pretty dumb.
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Jul 10, 2018 08:40
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Alhazred posted:One of the great little jokes in Idiocracy is that while everything else becomes dumber, Fox News more or less stays the same because it was already pretty dumb. I never thought of that I haven't seen it in years because some people were saying it's Mike Judge, who is a known racist, misogynist, probably a homophobe Well you see these characters are so profoundly dumb they are all black just listen for the dogwhistle Which begs the question, whaddya think about black people
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That's not what begs the question means, ignoring the rest of the post At least, I think.
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:That's not what begs the question means, ignoring the rest of the post I also didn't know that. Instead of me being "rude" to you be bored to tears with https://stancarey.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/descriptivism-vs-prescriptivism-war-is-over-if-you-want-it/ And this http://www.txstate.edu/philosophy/resources/fallacy-definitions/Begging-the-Question.html
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but also be prepared for my lecture on moot
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Idiocracy is too mean spirited. The concept of rampant consumerism and shallow media creating a world of idiots is okay, but the film's never clear about what it is supposed to be criticising. It's not just Walmart and Fox that get made fun of, but also a whole bunch of cultural signifiers that the film thinks are just 'dumb', no explanation necessary. Don't have the tastes of a middle- to high income household? Sorry, but you're clearly lacking in intelligence for not liking the things I like. Watching it feels like being stuck with an elitist, arrogant highschool kid who's sure he's edgy as gently caress, has everything figured out and thinks everything he doesn't like is dumb.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Idiocracy is too mean spirited. The concept of rampant consumerism and shallow media creating a world of idiots is okay, but the film's never clear about what it is supposed to be criticising. It's not just Walmart and Fox that get made fun of, but also a whole bunch of cultural signifiers that the film thinks are just 'dumb', no explanation necessary. Also, the fact that the movie's message seems to be "eugenics is the only way to save mankind" is.....problematic.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Idiocracy is too mean spirited. The concept of rampant consumerism and shallow media creating a world of idiots is okay, but the film's never clear about what it is supposed to be criticising. It's not just Walmart and Fox that get made fun of, but also a whole bunch of cultural signifiers that the film thinks are just 'dumb', no explanation necessary. I'm not being sarcastic when I say you have an interesting thing going here and so does Metal Geir Skogul I know nothing Jarn shnow but yeah genetics doesn't work that way, there's a more relevant thing going on. And it's not epigenetics It's that I hate my ignorant nephew cosplaying as hitaro and slenderman Our sires' age was worse than our grandsires'. We, their sons, are more worthless than they; so in our turn we shall give the world a progeny yet more corrupt. I'm a grumpy old idiot before 40
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syscall girl posted:I'm not being sarcastic when I say you have an interesting thing going here and so does Metal Geir Skogul Hey, I can relate. And I don't think Mike Judge was intentionally trying to say we should stop the poor from breeding. If anything, I think the intended message was that you shouldn't always peddle to the lowest common denominator because everyone deserves better than that. And that's a cool thing to say, even if the message gets horribly mangled in the execution. Or you could make a pretty good point about it being satire on babyboomer nightmares. But if I want to watch a weird future where all our small shortcomings have run wildly out of control, then Futurama blows Idiocracy out of the water. Because sometimes, you know, nobody wants to live on this planet anymore.
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Sobatchja Morda posted:Hey, I can relate. And I don't think Mike Judge was intentionally trying to say we should stop the poor from breeding. If anything, I think the intended message was that you shouldn't always peddle to the lowest common denominator because everyone deserves better than that. And that's a cool thing to say, even if the message gets horribly mangled in the execution. Or you could make a pretty good point about it being satire on babyboomer nightmares. I think we're all doing our parts to end the penguin menace from here but you fight it your way https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x59xlei
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Alhazred posted:Also, the fact that the movie's message seems to be "eugenics is the only way to save mankind" is.....problematic. Huh? It's literally Average Joe that saves mankind from five centuries of increasing corporate dominance of the planet. Unless you only watch the first five minutes, it's pretty blatant with how it pokes fun at people that think they're smart and that the working class are somehow beneath them. The people that considered themselves to be better than others literally die out because they devoted their lives to enriching their bosses.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Huh? It's literally Average Joe that saves mankind from five centuries of increasing corporate dominance of the planet. How can you take this: As the 21st century began, human evolution was at a turning point. Natural selection, the process by which the strongest, the smartest, the fastest, reproduced in greater numbers than the rest, a process which had once favored the noblest traits of man, now began to favor different traits. Most science fiction of the day predicted a future that was more civilized and more intelligent. But as time went on, things seemed to be heading in the opposite direction. A dumbing down. How did this happen? Evolution does not necessarily reward intelligence. With no natural predators to thin the herd, it began to simply reward those who reproduced the most, and left the intelligent to become an endangered species. And not interpret it as favoring eugenics?
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Alhazred posted:How can you take this: Yeah like I said, if you only watch the first five minutes of the film, in which that narration occurs, I can see why you'd think that.
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Quote-Unquote posted:Yeah like I said, if you only watch the first five minutes of the film, in which that narration occurs, I can see why you'd think that. Nothing in the rest of the movie contradicts it though.
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Seriously. It's all about how "average Joes" are breeding humanity into a literally retarded future because the noble It is not a good movie. Probably why it took off so hard with all the teen libertarians in college who are so drat sure of their own superiority and sneer at anyone who works blue collar and stopped their education at high school. EDIT: Not the first five minutes, but the final 20 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDGM76KoEk Megillah Gorilla has a new favorite as of 13:21 on Jul 10, 2018 |
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Alhazred posted:Nothing in the rest of the movie contradicts it though. Apart from the rest of the movie, where literally Average Joe is the only one capable of stopping the corporate monstrosity the supposedly intelligent people killed themselves to create, sure. Unless you're saying it's in favour of eugenics to eliminate 'intelligent' people? It's a stretch. Megillah Gorilla posted:Probably why it took off so hard with all the teen libertarians in college who are so drat sure of their own superiority and sneer at anyone who works blue collar and stopped their education at high school. The film is explicitly mocking these people, though. This is like saying Fight Club is a bad film because teen libertarians in college also liked it despite missing the point entirely.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Seriously. It is clearly you who are smartest. I bet you don't know any white people or own a television. Or any black people. Congrats
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