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Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever

Top Hats Monthly posted:

since I’m not planning on buying a prophet 5, what is considered the best VST? Some people say the Arturia one is nice but nothing like a P5...so are there alternatives?

The P6 module is really the business, just saiyan

Plavski posted:

A laptop with Ableton is just a knobless Access Virus :thunk:

Speaking of I can not believe Waldorf of all companies picked up that Valkyrie synth.

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Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave

Top Hats Monthly posted:

since I’m not planning on buying a prophet 5, what is considered the best VST? Some people say the Arturia one is nice but nothing like a P5...so are there alternatives?

There can be only one

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Top Hats Monthly posted:

since I’m not planning on buying a prophet 5, what is considered the best VST? Some people say the Arturia one is nice but nothing like a P5...so are there alternatives?

prophet 6 :getin:

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
This looks kinda interesting: http://www.modalelectronics.com/skulpt/ Another kickstarted portable synth. Could be worth a try if they're not asking stupid money for it.

Bagsack
Mar 29, 2007

I'm a fucking lobster

Plavski posted:

This looks kinda interesting: http://www.modalelectronics.com/skulpt/ Another kickstarted portable synth. Could be worth a try if they're not asking stupid money for it.

This looks extremely cool, but it’s on Kickstarter and will therefor be another huge disappointment. That or cost like $1300.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
Novation Peak users - how are you finding it? Is it meeting your expectations?

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAb95IMwRgY

Supersonic
Mar 28, 2008

You have used 43 of 300 characters allowed.
Tortured By Flan

Plavski posted:

Novation Peak users - how are you finding it? Is it meeting your expectations?

Bought one about a week ago after noodling with it at my local store for half an hour and am really enjoying it. It uses an FPGA instead of a DSP to generate waveforms but has analog filters. One of my favorite things about it is the layout makes for minimal menu diving, and stuff that involves the menus (the mod matrix) feels really intuitive for me. Also a big fan of the built in effects (chorus, delay, and reverb). I haven't gotten too deep into sound design with it yet, but it hasn't been too hard for me to dial in some cool sounds starting from an init patch.

This video is what got me interested in the peak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUftsMLaGsg

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!
am i the only one who thinks that needint to tune a synth makes it feel more like a real instrument?
its def more guitar than piano in that aspect, esp with VCOs, and playing an instrument where intonation matters keeps me more in tune with it :shrug:

im weird af tho i play a 6U and dont want more module (except to make my vidsynth, but thats a whole nother instrument so i dont count it :-p)

anyway i 8 saiyan this to h8 on digital gear or nothin (thats reserved for video adcs) just, explaining how i relate to analog instruments.

plus the fact that body heat influences their operation is just :3:

Bagsack
Mar 29, 2007

I'm a fucking lobster

byob historian posted:

am i the only one who thinks that needint to tune a synth makes it feel more like a real instrument?

What kind of synth are you talking about that you have to tune? Is that a thing on fully analog synths or something? I’m legitimately curious.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Bagsack posted:

What kind of synth are you talking about that you have to tune? Is that a thing on fully analog synths or something? I’m legitimately curious.
:thunk:
even all the digital synths ive played have had tuning adjustment so you can play it in a band setting
was talkin more about analog gear, yeah, cuz its like tuning a guitar, much more adjustable intonation. one time i was tryin out for a band and i plugged in my mono/poly and told em id have to tune it, they looked at me likeni id growed another head!

Bagsack
Mar 29, 2007

I'm a fucking lobster

byob historian posted:

:thunk:
even all the digital synths ive played have had tuning adjustment so you can play it in a band setting
was talkin more about analog gear, yeah, cuz its like tuning a guitar, much more adjustable intonation. one time i was tryin out for a band and i plugged in my mono/poly and told em id have to tune it, they looked at me likeni id growed another head!

Oh okay, you just mean like adjusting the “cents” of the pitch?

rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Yes. So my C pitch matches your C pitch and we can play the same note at the same pitch.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Bagsack posted:

Oh okay, you just mean like adjusting the “cents” of the pitch?

not just, no, but that is one level of it , yes :)

tuning pressure points certainly feels more like playing slide than any keyboard ive used

byob historian fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Jul 10, 2018

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
Weed megathread is down the hall to the left :v:

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

byob historian posted:

not just, no, but that is one level of it , yes :)

tuning pressure points certainly feels more like playing slide than any keyboard ive used

FYI you gotta tune pianos too, and those are way more work than tuning a guitar. Like hire a specialist and pay them a few hundred to do it hard work.

Also,

Startyde posted:

Weed megathread is down the hall to the left :v:

khysanth
Jun 10, 2009

Still love you, Homar

Bagsack posted:

Oh okay, you just mean like adjusting the “cents” of the pitch?

A lot of classic analogue synths, as well as modern ones like the Behringer Model D, need to be turned on and "warm up" a bit for the oscillators to "settle" for lack of a better word. There are tuning adjustment knobs on my Model D for each oscillator and a toggle switch for A440 so I can tune to that.

The knobs are also useful for purposefully de-tuning oscillators to create fatter sounds, or making intervals for chords etc, on what is actually a monophonic synth.

Sexy Randal
Jul 26, 2006

woah
My microbrute takes a bit to warm up and stay in tune, and I do have to turn the tuning knob fairly regularly especially if I'm about to record it

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

HotCanadianChick posted:

FYI you gotta tune pianos too, and those are way more work than tuning a guitar. Like hire a specialist and pay them a few hundred to do it hard work.

Also,
thats what im saying, with a piano you have to hire somebody or spend a whole day yourself tuning it, with a shnthesizer you can play with the intonation more like a fiddle

and if youre not blazing why do you even have a synth :thunk:

Gringostar
Nov 12, 2016
Morbid Hound
i only get high on life

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever

Gringostar posted:

i only get high on life

same, except salacious amounts of weapons-grade weede

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

byob historian posted:

and if youre not blazing why do you even have a synth :thunk:

The synths are so I can get high on synthing when I can’t get high on weeds.

coolskull
Nov 11, 2007

byob historian posted:

and if youre not blazing why do you even have a synth :thunk:

because humans play music WRONG.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

LOVE LOVE SKELETON posted:

because humans play music WRONG.

omg thanks this is rly helping me feel more ~ h ~ u ~ m ~ a ~ n ~

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

Gringostar posted:

i only get high on life

but youre a lowlife :thunk:

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Bagsack posted:

This looks extremely cool, but it’s on Kickstarter and will therefor be another huge disappointment. That or cost like $1300.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbpaAc_BxjE

Sub-$300.

Plavski fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jul 11, 2018

Startyde
Apr 19, 2007

come post with us, forever and ever and ever
The chassis is :3: man >$300 for that is crazy. Throw that, a couple volcas and a RAT in a backpack and you've got a party.

MrSargent
Dec 23, 2003

Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's Jimmy T.
Learning that Pharrell and Chad Hugo use a MicroKorg in a ton of their productions makes me sad that I didn’t buy the one I saw at the pawn shop recently.

MockingQuantum
Jan 20, 2012



Okay which of you keeps coming into my shop and telling me how great the Deluge is, I feel like it's gotta be a goon and that I'm being slowly trolled into buying one.

java
May 7, 2005

Posted this over in the gear trade thread, but I'm thinking about parting ways with my Moog DFAM. Hit me up if you think you might be interested.

EDIT: Sold!

java fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jul 12, 2018

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

MrSargent posted:

Learning that Pharrell and Chad Hugo use a MicroKorg in a ton of their productions makes me sad that I didn’t buy the one I saw at the pawn shop recently.

They're still manufactured. Use your God-given right to return it within 30 days if you find out that Synth1 does the same and better.

(Korg's MS-engine has some very slick sounds, it's early VA, so don't expect meticulously modeled diode ladder poo poo)

MrSargent
Dec 23, 2003

Sometimes, there's a man, well, he's the man for his time and place. He fits right in there. And that's Jimmy T.

Laserjet 4P posted:

They're still manufactured. Use your God-given right to return it within 30 days if you find out that Synth1 does the same and better.

(Korg's MS-engine has some very slick sounds, it's early VA, so don't expect meticulously modeled diode ladder poo poo)

Not a bad idea. It was just a good condition micro for only $150, which is why I’m kicking myself.

Sweet_Joke_Nectar
Jun 7, 2007

i'm a little shai :3
Weird niche question. Does anyone know if it’s possible to download a fully produced, finished song as a project file into Logic Pro x strictly for learning purposes? I’m teaching myself the ropes of the program, but I’d love to try and work backwards from something that is already well made, go into the nooks and crannies of it and see what the original creator did, and what adjusting those parameters does to alter the sound.

byob historian
Nov 5, 2008

I'm an animal abusing piece of shit! I deliberately poisoned my dog to death and think it's funny! I'm an irredeemable sack of human shit!

MrSargent posted:

Not a bad idea. It was just a good condition micro for only $150, which is why I’m kicking myself.

ive never missed mine fwiw

felt like i had to turn the distortion on to get anything sounding o k, and it being just on/off got old kinda fast

i think they make one with a builtin speaker now, which would make the batteries a little more handy

its not the worst external processor either, but idr anything particularly noteworthy there

Your Computer
Oct 3, 2008




Grimey Drawer

Sweet_Joke_Nectar posted:

Weird niche question. Does anyone know if it’s possible to download a fully produced, finished song as a project file into Logic Pro x strictly for learning purposes? I’m teaching myself the ropes of the program, but I’d love to try and work backwards from something that is already well made, go into the nooks and crannies of it and see what the original creator did, and what adjusting those parameters does to alter the sound.

I've been wondering the same (though Bitwig and not Logic Pro) because it would be incredibly neat to see how other people make stuff. The problem with this though is that you'd have to have all the same plugins, etc. and if any audio was bounced then it's kinda worthless. Also you'd need someone to agree to making their finished project public :v:

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
The SKULPT kickstarter is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skulpt/modal-electronics-skulpt-synthesiser

56,507 by August 12. 57,703 already raised with 29 days to go

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Plavski posted:

The SKULPT kickstarter is up: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skulpt/modal-electronics-skulpt-synthesiser

56,507 by August 12. 57,703 already raised with 29 days to go

Man, I love the design of this. Anyone use their stuff before? Also I can't tell, is this gonna be for sale in the US after the KS ends?

Laserjet 4P
Mar 28, 2005

What does it mean?
Fun Shoe

Stan Taylor posted:

Man, I love the design of this. Anyone use their stuff before?

Paula Maddox has a history of some very solid synthesizer design. The Modal 002 and 008 were pretty spectacular pieces and before that there was the MonoWave.

However:

- she's no longer working at Modal, so I don't know if she's involved in this product
- I don't know if putting it on Kickstarter says something about the financial status of Modal (why not just build it and sell it?)
- lastly: the "why I started a new company" subscript for Dove Audio might imply (but I could be reading into something) that the separation from Modal wasn't really amicable (and of course the truth is never going to come out) so I don't know if they've found anyone who now delivers the DSP brain.

I could be completely full of poo poo though.

In almost any case you have one or two really talented devs who do a lot of important work, so it's their dedication (and craft in terms of having bug-free poo poo) that saves (or ruins) the day.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Your Computer posted:

I've been wondering the same (though Bitwig and not Logic Pro) because it would be incredibly neat to see how other people make stuff. The problem with this though is that you'd have to have all the same plugins, etc. and if any audio was bounced then it's kinda worthless. Also you'd need someone to agree to making their finished project public :v:

I was checking on my Splice account and noticed they have a community section that seems to do exactly what you want.

https://splice.com/explore

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emoji
Jun 4, 2004

Plavski posted:

If you got money to burn, get a blue sky pedal. If not, get a zoom ms70 or ms50 if you want cheaper pedals. There are a few other good ones too. Polara etc.

Personally, I've been running my stuff through my DAW and using the Valhalla reverbs which are fantastic.

Since I don't have money to burn atm I got a Volca Sample instead a couple days ago which owns hard. You might say then why did you just drop $650 on sweet Korg products. Well um, it wasn't real money it was years-forgotten dogecoin obtained for meme purposes converted to Amazon credit over a year ago which has just now been finally exhausted lol. I found this cool Mac program Audio Hijack that lets you very easily route/combine/modify any set of inputs to any set of outputs including virtual ones for super easy use in like, video chat etc. Also can apply Audio Units to any part of the signal chain. The components snap around nicely and it's super intuitive, and the best part is I don't have to replug any physical things or fire up a heavier-weight DAW to just play around live. Also the trial period can be extended from a session of 10 minutes to say, quintillions of years beyond the entropic destruction of the solar system if a certain countdown timer value expressed in seconds as a little endian float at a certain binary offset is appropriately modified. [1]Some disassembly required. [2]Purchase required upon resumption of standard working hours.

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