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Hayter was good but he sucked in Peace Walker as mature Boss and can you imagine him giving the shining lights speech
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Hayter was good but he sucked in Peace Walker as mature Boss and can you imagine him giving the shining lights speech At least he wouldn’t have sounded bored.
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Jul 10, 2018 13:52
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she survifed?
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Jul 10, 2018 14:01
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Ultramega posted:Something I personally overlooked about the MGS series was how each iteration of Metal Gear is sold to us as this impossibly powerful, invincible death machine that is the end result of billions of dollars, brilliant scientific minds bent to the task, who knows how many engineers manufacturing it, etc. And for what? So it can get blown to pieces by some guy with a rocket launcher in the end. Every single time. Wonderful commentary on the defense industry. REX was literally indestructible. The only way Solid could beat it was by using Grey Fox to take out Liquid inside the cockpit every other Metal Gear was pretty weak though, yeah Also David Hayter's Snake rules why do you people even play this series
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Jul 10, 2018 14:20
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If you don't like David Hayter please post now so that I can just ignore you forever
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Jul 10, 2018 14:48
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Hayter is inarguably a poo poo voice actor but he is even more inarguably excellent for the role of Snake. It's like Ozzy Osbourne. That dude cannot sing by any definition but he's absolutely perfect for his music.
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Jul 10, 2018 14:51
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I'm arguing it. It is not inarguable. David Hayter is a national treasure and he is also very handsome. I would mow David Hayter's lawn and I wouldn't even charge him: that's how much I respect him.
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Jul 10, 2018 14:59
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Josuke Higashikata posted:It's like Jandek. That dude cannot sing by any definition but he's absolutely perfect for his music. Fixed because Osbourne is a deece vocalist, especially on first three BS albums.
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Jul 10, 2018 15:06
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Hayter does not do dramatic very well. He can do the stoic badass really well (see conversations with Otacon in 1 and 2, talking with the bosses after beating them in 1, semi-mocking Ocelot in MGS3) but in MGS3 or Peace Walker when he has to talk solemnly about The Boss it’s mostly just flat. But anyone who listens to any of his conversations with Paramedic in MGS3 and goes “This guy sucks!” is lying only to themselves 
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Jul 10, 2018 15:43
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I was actually kinda disappointed the story for mgs v went as literal with everything as it could have been. Seemed like some wasted potential. The way Man on Fire looks like he could be in a version of TPP's sneaking suit in the hospital, and he's full of bullets and shrapnel it would've been cool as a manifestation of Snake's rage Or if Ishmael would've just been in Venom Snake's head, or died in the ambulance and Venom was the only thing carrying on Big Boss's legacy. I already knew the twist since I didn't play it at release in the vaguest way, which made a bunch of the opening hospital scene seem more like it was stylized or supposed to be filled with hallucinations. Hell if Big Boss had actually died saving Venom that would've been a very interessting way to end the series. Plus it's not like Kojima wasn't already heavily retconning poo poo.
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Jul 10, 2018 16:27
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Are you calling me a fishman?
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Jul 10, 2018 17:09
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Look Sir Droids posted:At least he wouldn’t have sounded bored. Or like he had no direction. There are at least a handful of lines that sound like he has no context and it's really weird.
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Jul 10, 2018 17:15
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CharlestonJew posted:REX was literally indestructible. The only way Solid could beat it was by using Grey Fox to take out Liquid inside the cockpit 
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Jul 10, 2018 17:31
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Momomo posted:Or like he had no direction. There are at least a handful of lines that sound like he has no context and it's really weird. Voice clips without proper context is just another one of those things of TPP the enemy sniper
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Jul 10, 2018 17:52
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CharlestonJew posted:REX was literally indestructible. The only way Solid could beat it was by using Grey Fox to take out Liquid inside the cockpit I would love to see Metal Gear:Pentagon Wars.  - Great job on the new Metal Gear, an unstoppable walking battle tank. I'm just thinking though, why don't we make it so that it can shoot down light aircraft. - General, that would require a pretty extensive retooling of the radom and optics. And if we redesign it, the pilot could end up blind if the radom were damaged. - Blind? Pshaw! They could just open the cockpit and fight directly.
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Jul 10, 2018 17:56
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Kibayasu posted:Hayter does not do dramatic very well. He can do the stoic badass really well (see conversations with Otacon in 1 and 2, talking with the bosses after beating them in 1, semi-mocking Ocelot in MGS3) but in MGS3 or Peace Walker when he has to talk solemnly about The Boss it’s mostly just flat. I remember enjoying the scene in MGS1 where Snake is in the prison cell and has that heart to heart with Naomi. Or specifically when Snake is telling Naomi about his past.
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Jul 10, 2018 18:30
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He had one awesome dramatic delivery in MGS4 when Old Snake looks at his shriveled hands and says "...a year at best, right?"
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Jul 10, 2018 18:36
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How is raiden able to suplex a metal gear in rising (from the end of its leg, with no leverage) but can't beat a Spanish man who seems light in the loafers ?
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Jul 10, 2018 19:11
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Lunchmeat Larry posted:Hayter was good but he sucked in Peace Walker as mature Boss and can you imagine him giving the shining lights speech I can picture him doing it in my head and I think he could do it. It was just so stupid to change him for what’s probably the final canon game in the original series.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:20
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Caros posted:I would love to see Metal Gear:Pentagon Wars.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:59
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jonathan posted:How is raiden able to suplex a metal gear in rising (from the end of its leg, with no leverage) but can't beat a Spanish man who seems light in the loafers ? Raiden is powered by Metal. The more metal the situation, the stronger he is.
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Jul 10, 2018 19:59
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Except instead of metal it's a sudden riff into j-pop
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Jul 11, 2018 06:07
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David D. Davidson posted:Raiden is powered by Metal. The more metal the situation, the stronger he is. Coming soon: Heavy Metal Gear
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Jul 11, 2018 13:57
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jonathan posted:How is raiden able to suplex a metal gear in rising (from the end of its leg, with no leverage) but can't beat a Spanish man who seems light in the loafers ? That's just the rules of nature.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:58
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David Hayter's terrible voice acting blends with Kojima's writing and directing to form a cocktail of stupidity so potent that it is like an all powerful drug.
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Jul 11, 2018 14:12
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Peace Walker had the second best gameplay of any of the mgs games.
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Jul 11, 2018 23:38
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tweet my meat posted:Peace Walker had the second best gameplay of any of the mgs games. Yeah, in terms of gameplay I would rank it V PW MGS3 MGS MGS2 MGS4
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Jul 12, 2018 00:05
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Yeah, in terms of gameplay I would rank it 4 has great gameplay, Kojima just won't let you at it 
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Jul 12, 2018 00:12
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MGS4 deserves a higher spot on that list just for the CQC hump alone
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Jul 12, 2018 00:21
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V PW 4 3 1 2 4 was really slept on, stupid looking octocamo remains the best collectible in the series.
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Jul 12, 2018 00:23
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JBP posted:4 has great gameplay, Kojima just won't let you at it He certainly learned from the feedback with V. I wanted more long cutscenes.  4 really need VR missions though. I still prefer some of the gameplay mechanics in it over V.
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Jul 12, 2018 00:23
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3 had so much good stuff in the codec and it was like, well I’m never going to top that so I’m gonna stop even trying.
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Jul 12, 2018 00:25
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With as janky and weird as the characters and stories in this series are, and as amazing as the gameplay concept of “stealth combat expert with every post-WWII weapon and combat toy that has ever existed (and a few that haven’t) available“ is, I’m surprised there aren’t more IP’s taking a stab at perfecting this kind of gameplay and pairing it with actually coherent stories. Like, can you even imagine a game with the absolute perfection of MGSV’s moment to moment mechanics, but that actually had an interesting, complete story grounded in at least realistic fiction and characters that weren’t anime as hell. Because I can’t. It would be too awesome.
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Jul 12, 2018 00:37
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GreatGreen posted:Like, can you even imagine a game with the absolute perfection of MGSV’s moment to moment mechanics, but that actually had an interesting, complete story grounded in at least realistic fiction and characters that weren’t anime as hell. Why would you want this objectively terrible idea to be a reality
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Jul 12, 2018 00:38
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GreatGreen posted:With as janky and weird as the characters and stories in this series are, and as amazing as the gameplay concept of “stealth combat expert with every post-WWII weapon and combat toy that has ever existed (and a few that haven’t) available“ is, I’m surprised there aren’t more IP’s taking a stab at perfecting this kind of gameplay and pairing it with actually coherent stories. They’re called Tom Clancy games and they’re boring as gently caress jingoistic wankfests.
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Jul 12, 2018 00:40
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Why would you want this objectively terrible idea to be a reality Good point, at this stage of my life it probably would not be good to lose thousands of hours to a game that amazing. SeANMcBAY posted:They’re called Tom Clancy games and they’re boring as gently caress jingoistic wankfests. Nah those games are nearly as good, mechanically speaking. As for story, I’m not thinking limiting things to some boring rear end military faction fighting another military faction HELL YEAH MERKA game. It could be anything. A grand theft auto style bank heist game set in a huge open, interesting, colorful world, and Indiana Jones/uncharted style archaeology game, Hell I don’t know I’m just spitballing. The point is it could be a lot more interesting than what you’re thinking I meant. GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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Jul 12, 2018 00:40
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it would be hard to have bossfights as memorable as FOXHOUND or the Cobra Unit while also having them be realistic and grounded in reality like instead of fighting The Pain it'd just be a dude in a beekeeper outfit
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Jul 12, 2018 00:44
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GreatGreen posted:Like, can you even imagine a game with the absolute perfection of MGSV’s moment to moment mechanics, but that actually had an interesting, complete story grounded in at least realistic fiction and characters that weren’t anime as hell.
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Jul 12, 2018 00:44
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SeANMcBAY posted:They’re called Tom Clancy games and they’re boring as gently caress jingoistic wankfests. I think that's what they're asking for? A grounded 'realistic' military game with the infinite padding of MGSV but an even less interesting story and characters than the already low bar that had?
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Jul 12, 2018 00:45
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GreatGreen posted:With as janky and weird as the characters and stories in this series are, and as amazing as the gameplay concept of “stealth combat expert with every post-WWII weapon and combat toy that has ever existed (and a few that haven’t) available“ is, I’m surprised there aren’t more IP’s taking a stab at perfecting this kind of gameplay and pairing it with actually coherent stories. I dunno man, I feel like Kojima's brand of stealth has already pollinated into a large part of the AAA game industry. Maybe we haven't had a milporn one in a while but Tomb Raider, Last of Us, HZD and many others are all going deeper and deeper into the "creep through foliage, peek around cover" school of games. You could say that stealth games snuck up on you
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