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Some oval office from my town killed a guy and hospitalized his kid when he was doing 80+ in a 25 and passed in oncoming traffic. His car flipped 6 times.
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Jul 10, 2018 18:11
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In the past week in my area, a drunk guy crossed the road onto the sidewalk in broad daylight, hitting a mother and her 2 kids, the 1-year-old kid died. Also some loving scumfuck crossed the grass median on a highway and plowed into a minivan, killing the dad and all 4 daughters and leaving the mom in critical condition 
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Jul 10, 2018 20:40
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A friend got nailed head-on by a wrong way drunk driver on I-5 a couple weeks ago; her and her kid lived but two passengers died. He's looking at a maximum of 4 years which is lol, as this will be his SEVENTH goddamned DUI. Our laws seem to not have been written in the same reality we live in as he somehow was able to get a license after DUIs 1 through 6.
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Jul 10, 2018 20:59
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That's loving awful. I'd hold the state liable at that point as well.
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Jul 10, 2018 21:30
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um excuse me posted:That's loving awful. I'd hold the state liable at that point as well. Yeah. It is a combination of funding and delivering results. Prosecutor makes deals.
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Jul 10, 2018 21:58
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C-Bangin' it 
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Don't forget, when dealing with the US justice system being wealthy and white means you can avoid real punishment for all but the most heinous of crimes.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:01
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Javid posted:A friend got nailed head-on by a wrong way drunk driver on I-5 a couple weeks ago; her and her kid lived but two passengers died. He's looking at a maximum of 4 years which is lol, as this will be his SEVENTH goddamned DUI. Our laws seem to not have been written in the same reality we live in as he somehow was able to get a license after DUIs 1 through 6. gently caress that noise, I wish after a second or third DUI that these assholes would be permanently on house arrest and never be able to drive again. Get caught driving after a third offense? Jail for life with no option for parole, ever.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:26
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Nah, jails are too expensive. Put an ankle bracelet on them and any time they're detected moving faster than 10 mph charge them $500.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:32
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Mein Kampf Enthusiast posted:Also some loving scumfuck crossed the grass median on a highway and plowed into a minivan, killing the dad and all 4 daughters and leaving the mom in critical condition jesus loving christ
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Jul 10, 2018 23:01
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Javid posted:A friend got nailed head-on by a wrong way drunk driver on I-5 a couple weeks ago; her and her kid lived but two passengers died. He's looking at a maximum of 4 years which is lol, as this will be his SEVENTH goddamned DUI. Our laws seem to not have been written in the same reality we live in as he somehow was able to get a license after DUIs 1 through 6. I remember when this happened, jesus christ. Condolences to your friend's friends.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:15
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xzzy posted:Nah, jails are too expensive. Put an ankle bracelet on them and any time they're detected moving faster than 10 mph charge them $500. a very expensive bus pass
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Jul 10, 2018 23:17
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Maker Of Shoes posted:a very expensive bus pass
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Jul 10, 2018 23:29
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It’s not hard to bike faster than that.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:31
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Platystemon posted:It’s not hard to bike faster than that. It is if you drink a bottle of whiskey a day.
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Jul 10, 2018 23:31
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Here's what I don't get. A DUI conviction is (afaik) among the offenses that can bar you from ever buying a gun (and if it isn't it should be because wtf). We as a society have decided people who do certain things can't be trusted with dangerous devices anymore. Cool. But the same motherfucker can go get a hardship license and drive to a liquor store and buy alcohol, and legally possess the same exact combination of stupidity that got him in trouble the first time. Like can't we maybe do something about that? How can you have -six- DUIs and even be free, much less licensed to drive AGAIN? Like at what point can somebody just not be trusted with a car no matter how much their life is gonna suck without it?  Platystemon posted:It’s not hard to bike faster than that. There are a number of "walk for charity" type apps that explcitly support riding a bike, but poo poo themselves if you break like 8 mph. I think a lot of people don't really grasp how fast even an average person can get going on a bike.
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Jul 11, 2018 05:51
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I got up to 20 mph on a MOUNTAIN bike today (with a bit of a tail wind, I found out). It's not hard at all.
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Jul 11, 2018 05:53
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Maker Of Shoes posted:yeah i'm not disagreeing and him doing something is leagues better than what it usually is which is nothing. still, made laugh. I'd suggest hand signals, but today's drivers will just think you're flipping them off and probably road rage you into a ditch. FWIW, a friend who couldn't afford a lawyer got hammered by an "excessive DUI" (he, uh, had it coming.. he blew a 0.41 at 10am). Then got hit with another DUI. He got locked up for almost a year, and lost his locksmith license (though that's partly related to the whole "I wound up homeless, so I used skillz to B&E and steal purses while people were sleeping, then got popped for using stolen credit cards at hotels"  )I've known this dude for 21 years. I don't want to ever share a road with him. Sucks that his career got ruined, but uh.... using your training to B&E and steal poo poo is far beyond any line that should be crossed. I've distanced myself from him considerably; he just got out a few days ago and started calling me to see if he could stay with me. My apartment is wall to wall boxes, I've already given away my couch and bed, and I'm rocking an air mattress until I move. If that's not enough reason, Hell Nope. I've known him a long time, but I can't say I trust him at all anymore. (also, never B&E into your parent's neighbor's house, especially when your employer installed their cameras... and especially don't get a hotel in your own name using stolen credit cards, WTF MAN) randomidiot fucked around with this message at 08:44 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Jul 11, 2018 08:41
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Javid posted:Here's what I don't get. Nobody ever mentions if the driver even had a license anymore.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:02
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Nobody ever mentions if the driver even had a license anymore. I'd bet he didn't, if he did he would have had an interlock right? I worked with a guy who had like 3 DUI's and had to have an interlock for 10 years. He was big into motorcycles but couldn't ride his because they can't fit them with interlocks. He was super psyched when his 10 years was up and he got to ride his bike again. 3 months later he got another DUI on his bike. Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Jul 11, 2018 13:08
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STR posted:I'd suggest hand signals, but today's drivers will just think you're flipping them off and probably road rage you into a ditch. Isn't 0.4 basically an "you are likely to die" level of intoxication? How do you even operate a car at that point?
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Jul 11, 2018 13:13
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I'd bet he didn't, if he did he would have had an interlock right? And interlocks aren’t cheap, there is a whole racket associated with them. The type of guy on 6 DUIs is probably not one for following the rules.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:25
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PT6A posted:Isn't 0.4 basically an "you are likely to die" level of intoxication? How do you even operate a car at that point? Not if you've built up a tolerance. There are recorded cases of people with a BAC over 1%, who were still somehow able to operate motor vehicles.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:26
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I remember stopping at a liquor store after work. It was winter, somewhat cold out, probably around mid 20s or so...winter jacket weather. Was waiting in line. In walks a guy that is wearing a huge puffy parka that made him look like some Michelin Man from hell. Anyways, he bought a case of beer and stowed it between his legs on his scooter. Probably was cold by the time he made it home.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:34
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KozmoNaut posted:Not if you've built up a tolerance. There are recorded cases of people with a BAC over 1%, who were still somehow able to operate motor vehicles. Holy hell. You must shake like a loving paint mixer coming off that.
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Jul 11, 2018 13:47
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Yeah, I have no idea how it's even possible to exist at that level of intoxication. Even something as basic as the breathing reflex must be sketchy at that point. I've found around 0.05% to be a nice gentle buzz, perfect for maintaining through a BBQ, concert or festival day without feeling like utter poo poo the day after. Around 0.1% for letting loose a bit, and as it starts to get to 0.2% that's where I draw the line because it just stops being fun at that point. I think I've only ever been above that once or twice, and it wasn't very fun. (Estimates based on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content and how I felt at the times in question) KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Jul 11, 2018 13:57
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What the hell is a BBQ concert?
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Jul 11, 2018 14:17
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The sound of sizzling meat, piped through a huge Marshall stack.
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Jul 11, 2018 14:22
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:What the hell is a BBQ concert? Sheesh, you forget one comma... 
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Jul 11, 2018 14:24
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PT6A posted:Isn't 0.4 basically an "you are likely to die" level of intoxication? How do you even operate a car at that point? I owned a breathalyzer and it's amazing what alcohol tolerance can do. I could walk and talk at .36 like 5 years ago and there were people that didn't feel alcohol and showed no signs at all at at .3.
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Jul 11, 2018 15:01
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The problem with DUI's in the states is that we have a very poor relationship with alcohol kinda stemming from lack luster education of it (drink to get hammered for whatever reason vs. drinking lightly/moderately because its delicious) and the consequence side (aside from death) of it created a system that's designed to keep you in it vs REeducation of healthy alcohol habits. I don't have a solution but I know the answer isn't anything we're doing now.
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Jul 11, 2018 16:42
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Also the lack of meaningful public transportation in most areas combined with sprawling suburban environments means that living a remotely normal life and working most jobs is effectively impossible without the ability to get around by car. This also means that suspending licenses isn't very effective, people tend to drive anyways because they don't feel they have a choice.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:29
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Then they should just be in prison if they don't have the ability to comply with the law.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:32
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yes, that is clearly the solution. 
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Jul 11, 2018 17:42
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Throw them under the wheels of their own cars, Hammurabi-style.
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Jul 11, 2018 17:53
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Colostomy Bag posted:The beauty of this clip is the driver handing over the footage would be self-incriminating (although clearly at fault and could be proven by common means). The dump truck driver seems to go into reverse just seconds before the initial crash.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:01
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Or every other commercial is a beer/alcohol ad and heavily promoted.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:05
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Grim Up North posted:The dump truck driver seems to go into reverse just seconds before the initial crash. I'll stand corrected when I'm wrong. Except I can't stand in that country because I'll get plowed over.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:07
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Colostomy Bag posted:Or every other commercial is a beer/alcohol ad and heavily promoted.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:18
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iospace posted:I got up to 20 mph on a MOUNTAIN bike today (with a bit of a tail wind, I found out). It's not hard at all. I've hit 30mph in a flat out sprint and can maintain 13-15mph on a mountain bike on pavement. 30 on a bike lacking the geometry for that speed is not fun, btw. So, yeah, bikes haul a lot more rear end than people realize.
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Jul 11, 2018 20:32
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Maker Of Shoes posted:yes, that is clearly the solution. This but unironically. If they can be rehabilitated of their alcoholism or kept from driving via other means, great, but if locking them up is the only way to keep them off the road, so be it.
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Jul 11, 2018 20:38
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