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Viewtiful Jew posted:If someone tries to review Sonic Adventure 1 but they only play through it with Sonic then their review is invalid and they are probably a narc. you can only review sonic heroes if you play once as team dark and once as team chaotix team sonic and team amy are just team dark but worse, so who cares
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The Colonel posted:shantae is more of a monster world iv than a castlevania or a metroid It depends which one. The series has kind of varied how interconnected and explorable it's world is from game to game
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I'm actually cool with reviewers not finishing games so long as they are up front about how much they did play.
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I loved Super Metroid a lot as a kid, and Symphony of the Night, but I would say that (for all my criticism) I liked Hollow Knight better. Just, Super Metroid and SOTN were both pretty new experiences for me, and for a lot of us--it's hard to top your first experience with a genre. There are a lot of games I remember liking as a kid that I just have no patience for now. I like QoL improvements, I am glad devs no longer feel chained to the arcade model of having "lives" for the most part (Mario!!!  ) and I feel almost spoiled by the amount of goodness modern gaming has to offer these days.I mean there's still bad obviously. So much of it. All right there on the storefront. You know when Analogue came out I thought it was neat, VNs were something new to Steam. Then the panties started flooding in.
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Relax Or DIE posted:I'm actually cool with reviewers not finishing games so long as they are up front about how much they did play. i'm glad you'll forgive me when i inevitably am not able to complete all of the 128 level long japanese ds puzzle game coropata
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Relax Or DIE posted:I'm actually cool with reviewers not finishing games so long as they are up front about how much they did play. I really don't think it's too much to ask for someone that is presumably being paid to play video games to actually finish the game. I can see exceptions when the game is broken or just barely playable but saying "i would rather move on to other things now because this game is long" is kind of a poo poo excuse and really does make it kind of likely the review will end up being useless.
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The Colonel posted:i'm glad you'll forgive me when i inevitably am not able to complete all of the 128 level long japanese ds puzzle game coropata
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glam rock hamhock posted:I really don't think it's too much to ask for someone that is presumably being paid to play video games to actually finish the game. See: any review of nier automata that ended at ending a.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I really don't think it's too much to ask for someone that is presumably being paid to play video games to actually finish the game. Oh I don't think you get good reviews this way, I'd just rather know up front that a review didn't bother to actually finish something long like a JRPG or something.
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Anyone who reviewed RE2 without beating both paths for both characters should've quit their jobs.occamsnailfile posted:I loved Super Metroid a lot as a kid, and Symphony of the Night, but I would say that (for all my criticism) I liked Hollow Knight better. Just, Super Metroid and SOTN were both pretty new experiences for me, and for a lot of us--it's hard to top your first experience with a genre. There are a lot of games I remember liking as a kid that I just have no patience for now. I like QoL improvements, I am glad devs no longer feel chained to the arcade model of having "lives" for the most part (Mario!!! Lives in Mario haven't really been a roadblock since SMB3. Odyssey does away with them completely.
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homeless snail posted:more people gotta talk about creeper world they are the Citizen Kane of games where your foe is a large mass of fluid
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al-azad posted:Lives in Mario haven't really been a roadblock since SMB3. Odyssey does away with them completely. I don't think they're a roadblock, I was just annoyed that they kept including them well past the point of them being even sort of an interesting limitation. It's a quibble, it's not like I didn't play SMW through Galaxies happily either way.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I really don't think it's too much to ask for someone that is presumably being paid to play video games to actually finish the game.
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Jul 10, 2018 21:58
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I heard the last third of Octopath turns into Bad Rats. It's literally just a port of Bad Rats. Don't let reviewers trick you.
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al-azad posted:Anyone who reviewed RE2 without beating both paths for both characters should've quit their jobs. Well yeah, and that's like 10 hours long, tops. I assume that's what most reviewers did.
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glam rock hamhock posted:I really don't think it's too much to ask for someone that is presumably being paid to play video games to actually finish the game. How much do you think reviewers get paid to write a game review? Because whatever it is, I promise you, it’s not enough to make playing a 200 hour JRPG epic to completion a reasonable hourly wage. Which is to say, there gotta be some limits and if a genius game auteur decides to hide the best parts of the game behind secret endings or third playthroughs, maybe the auteur is gonna have to be OK with a score that does not reflect the entirety of their work.
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Saint Freak posted:I heard the last third of Octopath turns into Bad Rats. It's literally just a port of Bad Rats. Don't let reviewers trick you. It also poisoned our water supply, burned our crops and delivered a plague unto our houses!
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Jul 10, 2018 22:01
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It turned me into a newt!
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If I was a freelance writer I wouldn't pick 100 hour JRPGs. But I guess beggars can';t be choosers.
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doingitwrong posted:How much do you think reviewers get paid to write a game review? Because whatever it is, I promise you, it’s not enough to make playing a 200 hour JRPG epic to completion a reasonable hourly wage.
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homeless snail posted:that reflects more poorly on the reviewer than the "auteur" lol Yeah, I get including some rewards for diehards but if the majority of the good content of the game isn't accessible to a normal player it's probably kind of a bad game. Much like the way people try to sell me on MMOs by saying "the endgame is really fun"
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There is also the problem that many times, game review copies don’t drop until just a few days before launch and generally people want to read the review at launch. So game reviewers are playing games in conditions matched only by the most obsessive fans. Marathon sessions of racing through the experience without access to the walkthroughs and guides the rest of us will have access to. It’s a big part of why I am suspicious of reviews that complain about a game being repetitive. I will play the game spread out over weeks or months, interspersed with other activities and maybe other games. Repetition probably won’t be nearly as bothersome to me.
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Jul 10, 2018 22:06
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who else is gonna roll with the four ladies in octopath and never use the men
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I considered it but unfortunately, Cyrus exists.
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oddium posted:who else is gonna roll with the four ladies in octopath and never use the men
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doingitwrong posted:How much do you think reviewers get paid to write a game review? Because whatever it is, I promise you, it’s not enough to make playing a 200 hour JRPG epic to completion a reasonable hourly wage. I don't like being the "but that's their job" guy...but that's their job. Like it's a dream job where you get paid to play video games but like every job ever it will have some downsides. If you want to be a professional video game critic then sometimes you have to slog through a long game you don't like. If you don't like it there are millions of people online that will do your job for free in a second. I understand the plight of workers and how people in industries like this will take advantage of you every which way they can and the public in general is extremely unreasonable but I also think it really is the bare minimum of the job to complete the game, even if it's longer than you would have liked.
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I used the notes pages to write down passwords.
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The real hosed up review environment is MP focused games where during the review period it's either off or a base of just other reviewers.
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I'm glad reviews are bad though because the only use reviews have anymore is to lol at ones that barely played the game and tried to extrapolate. genuinely reading reviews as purchasing advice in 2018 is lmao
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Jul 10, 2018 22:16
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I enjoyed octopath for 3 hr demo so ill play it. Dats my review
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Wasn't there a thing a few years ago where EA or someone was setting Metacritic targets where the devs would miss out on bonuses if the game scored below 80 does that still happen
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honestly i dunno whether i consider my things as actual reviews or just highlights of old games i want more people to know about cause i'd rather focus on what's cool about them than on the negatives probably the latter because that would make me feel less bad about talking about coropata when i'll probably only manage to get like 80 levels in before the end of the month due to the sheer amount of time it can take to solve puzzles. i can already only find like three people online who got like 20 levels into the game before giving up, and guides stop giving screenshot advice around level 40 so at this point i'm flying almost totally blind
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Help Im Alive posted:Wasn't there a thing a few years ago where EA or someone was setting Metacritic targets where the devs would miss out on bonuses if the game scored below 80 It's only a justification for ripping off studios, they'd still run them into the ground without that policy
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Help Im Alive posted:Wasn't there a thing a few years ago where EA or someone was setting Metacritic targets where the devs would miss out on bonuses if the game scored below 80 I know it happened to Obsidian for Fallout New Vegas
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glam rock hamhock posted:
Yeah, p much oddium posted:who else is gonna roll with the four ladies in octopath and never use the men
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I've plugged my way through the Fighters Guild questline in Oblivion now. Most of the quests were dull and generic but it really picked up at the end there with the final two quests with the Blackwood Company. I especially loved the bit where after you kill everyone that annoying fuckwit who kept dropping his contracts shows up and you get to kill him too. Now I've just got the Mages Guild, the final part of the main quest and all of Shimmering Isles. The end is in sight!
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Jul 10, 2018 22:46
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It's tuesday hello
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Rarity posted:I've plugged my way through the Fighters Guild questline in Oblivion now. Most of the quests were dull and generic but it really picked up at the end there with the final two quests with the Blackwood Company. I especially loved the bit where after you kill everyone that annoying fuckwit who kept dropping his contracts shows up and you get to kill him too. Have you not even done the beginning of the Mages Guild? You'll be kicking yourself when you realize the reward for entering the Arcane University.
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Since Lumines doesn't have a "take a break" warning I think I'm gonna need to set a pomodoro timer or something because this is like the fourth session where I have stopped playing and I ache all over. For a game about being zen with the music I am completely tensed and fatigued after playing
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TAKE FREQUENT BREAKS
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