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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:What I'm asking is why couldn't they approve it with the amendments and such? If it's got huge popular support, doing so would hurt Democrats in the next election, if they could mess around with the law in all sorts of ways to serve their goals, and they were up against a ticking clock which they can blame all their actions on, why couldn't they just do the dang thing? Who or what was stopping them?? Their own caucus. They couldn't get enough support in either house to pass it in one out of the two, let alone both.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44407795 Recreational cannabis passed the Canadian Senate 56 to 30, now it goes back to the parliament. Soon  soon.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/391186-senators-introduce-bill-to-protect-states-from-federal-marijuanaSenators introduce bipartisan bill to protect state laws on marijuana posted:Sens. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Cory Gardner (R-Colo.) introduced a bipartisan bill on Thursday that would allow states to regulate marijuana without federal interference. Washington Post had an opinion piece about this. Their take was that Jeff Sessions attempts to encourage a reversal on marijuana legalization has started inspiring a bipartisan backlash aimed at normalizing the status of the industry. As the marijuana industry becomes increasingly entrenched I think we are going to see a much more concerted push for bills like this, although I think this one will almost certainly fail.
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Trump kinda vaguely supports rescinding the federal ban on grass:quote:“I support Sen. Gardner,” Trump said when asked about the bill. “I know exactly what he’s doing. We’re looking at it. But I probably will end up supporting that, yes.” r/T_D is going apeshit saying this is a Master Troll move to steal the issue from the Dems and get all the stoners and minorities to vote for Trump. In fairness, I think the Dems are dumb as gently caress if they let the GOP steal this issue from under them, as almost happened in 2016 since 3/4 of the GOP candidates were all "states rights" on weed yet HRC kept up her drug warrior stance.
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He'd be stupid to not try a hail Mary at this point. Unfortunately even if it gets voted on in the Senate (Mitch wouldn't allow it), it will get blocked by Pete Sessions in the house, killing it. gently caress you, Texas.
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It's my understanding that the President could simply deschedule it without any vote needed, simply by telling the head of the FDA "hey take weed off the schedule list" at literally anytime. Which makes Obama's failure to do so...troubling.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Trump kinda vaguely supports rescinding the federal ban on grass: It's sort of insane that anyone would fall for this halfway through 2018. He'll say anything. He'll change his mind tomorrow. It doesn't matter what Trump says.
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WampaLord posted:It's my understanding that the President could simply deschedule it without any vote needed, simply by telling the head of the FDA "hey take weed off the schedule list" at literally anytime. I was looking at this and the legal situation appears really complicated. Like it seems like he might be able to do that. . . but would need his Attorney General (Jeff Sessions), to sign on. Or maybe not. Or maybe the executive could unilaterally deschedule, if marijuana weren't internationally banned by UN treaty, according to some law. If any law goons understand the issues involved it would be interesting to hear what they have to say about the Executive's control over federal scheduling. Even if it is just fantasy under the current administration.
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Hot take from gibbis:Egbert Souse posted:If Trump legalizes weed, evangelicals will stop calling it devil's lettuce and rename it Jesus Salad
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:Hot take from gibbis: i remember watching some short video about an evangelical christian woman in one of the legal states (don't remember which) who, like most evangelicals, normally decided that weed was for heathens but gave it a try. while stoned she felt weed gave her a new way to communicate with her god and opened a small dispensary. jesus salad is right. Here's a related article: The creed includes weed for these Colorado Christians same idea. it reminds me of the hallucinogens that are used by some religious people for this reason
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WampaLord posted:It's my understanding that the President could simply deschedule it without any vote needed, simply by telling the head of the FDA "hey take weed off the schedule list" at literally anytime. This is something Obama is going to be more vilified for failing to do as the years go by like how Clinton's welfare reform and sexual assault look more awful by the year. Future generations will not get why this didn't happen.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:This is something Obama is going to be more vilified for failing to do as the years go by like how Clinton's welfare reform and sexual assault look more awful by the year. Future generations will not get why this didn't happen. It seems odd to single out Obama to vilify for not descheduling it. It was his DoJ that allowed the legal recreational states to flourish instead of cracking down. I get being disappointed, I guess I feel like vilified is a strong word for it.
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Obama's administration absolutely did take positive steps and they didn't try to deschedule for real reasons. I'm saying that in 20 years or so when a little of the nuance of our times is lost, people are going to wonder why it didn't happen. I'm saying it's going to reflect poorly on him long term.
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Obama always had an incredibly dismissive attitude about the issue, at one point when asked about legalization he literally just laughed as a response.
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Canada pronounces Oct 17th as the day it goes legal.https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cannabis-pot-legalization-bill-1.4713839 posted:Trudeau says pot will be legal as of Oct. 17, 2018 (From the article) Upon coming into force, adults in Canada will be legally allowed to:
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unknown posted:Canada pronounces Oct 17th as the day it goes legal. I was reading that Quebec wanted to disallow the cultivation of plants at home entirely. Does this bill allow the provinces such lee-way?
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Possibly dumb question from someone who doesn't smoke: Is 30 grams a lot? How far would that take an average user?
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Don Pigeon posted:I was reading that Quebec wanted to disallow the cultivation of plants at home entirely. Does this bill allow the provinces such lee-way? My understanding is that it doesn't. I'm guessing this will probably end up in court.
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Spalec posted:Possibly dumb question from someone who doesn't smoke: That's just over an ounce and its a pretty good amount. Use can vary widely though, that could last a person a week or two or a month or two depending. Like a normal joint or blunt is probably going to be in the neighborhood of 1 gram.
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Spalec posted:Possibly dumb question from someone who doesn't smoke: A lot of smokers use between an eighth and a quarter (3.5g to 7g) in a week, depending on tolerance, bud quality, consumption method and the availability of a solid X-Files marathon
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Spalec posted:Possibly dumb question from someone who doesn't smoke: An ounce will last me a month, but i know plenty of people who would blow through it in a week.
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Don Pigeon posted:I was reading that Quebec wanted to disallow the cultivation of plants at home entirely. Does this bill allow the provinces such lee-way? New Brunswick decided to dive in head first with my town, Saint John, getting the first government run cannabis store. In NB alcohol is controlled by ANBL which is a crown corp. The provincial government basically told them to get ready and since then a bunch of huge legal grow ops have started popping all over the south. Should be interesting. Saint John is a cruise ship destination so I suspect a store will be opening up down at the boardwalk soon. Spalec posted:Possibly dumb question from someone who doesn't smoke: I generally go through a half ounce a week. Most people aren't going to carry around a full ounce so I don't mind that law.
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Spalec posted:Possibly dumb question from someone who doesn't smoke: 30 grams is roughly 60 average-sized joints. A heavy smoker would get through it in 2 weeks. Average about a month. If you are using a high quality vaporizer it will last you 3-4 months.
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Entorwellian posted:30 grams is roughly 60 average-sized joints. A heavy smoker would get through it in 2 weeks. Average about a month. If you are using a high quality vaporizer it will last you 3-4 months. An oz would last me less than a month with a volcano, but that was partially due to tolerance. Super psyched for Canada, now just hoping NY follows through next year.
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If I'm not mistaken, recreational sales start in Massachusetts on July 1st as well. I've been trying to find out more, but haven't heard much about what that's going to look like.
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Vyacheslav posted:If I'm not mistaken, recreational sales start in Massachusetts on July 1st as well. I've been trying to find out more, but haven't heard much about what that's going to look like. It seems like they're trying to go slow. Recreational marijuana shops in Mass. might not be able to open by July 1 posted:Hoffman also said he would be OK with having no retail shops open for a few weeks after the July 1 target date if it means avoiding a problematic rollout.
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Vyacheslav posted:If I'm not mistaken, recreational sales start in Massachusetts on July 1st as well. I've been trying to find out more, but haven't heard much about what that's going to look like. So far only one adult-use marijuana license has been issued...and it's for cultivation purposes only...and it's a provisional license that still requires a state-inspection of the premises before a final license is issued. Apparently no licenses will be awarded this week either, which is kind of ridiculous. One of the big hurdles in Massachusetts has been the cities and towns, who have really dragged their feet, but I'm really surprised that the "roll-out" date will come and there won't be a single retail license issued. The thought had been that many of the medical licensees had the logistical wherewithal to make it happen next week, but they're not even licensed... As a practical matter, it is unlikely stores will be open in Massachusetts before the fall, but I would love to be wrong. The Massachusetts Attorney General deciding to bless an extended moratorium by a town that voted for the referendum back in November, 2016 also isn't helping matters! https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2018/06/24/attorney-general-ruling-could-slow-mass-marijuana-industry/jbrONNL0DfY4Xwvax577tL/story.html https://mobile.twitter.com/Dan_Adams86/status/1011254283386478593
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MooselanderII posted:As a practical matter, it is unlikely stores will be open in Massachusetts before the fall, but I would love to be wrong well that's a bummer, I've been slacking on reupping here on the VT side and I'm going to run out before my fall harvest, and I was thinking "eh sweet I'll just hop the border for some of that sweet retail weed". Nerp. By the time your stores are running I'll be on the Free Weed Forever plan.
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Can we just legalize it already? https://twitter.com/OklahomaWatch/status/1011797421410717696
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Dmitri-9 posted:Can we just legalize it already? It's pretty encouraging to see these kinds of moves in red country. Apparently even in Texas there's majority support for full legalization in just about every demographic. Even Republicans. We're fast approaching the point where federal action becomes likely.
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Also the FDA just approved a CBD based epilepsy drug, requiring a reschedule in order for it to hit market if it ever does
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The Equal Rights Amendment is one state away from being ratified. I wonder if that is an avenue for Federal medical cannabis. If every state trying passes this year that gets to 35 so maybe in 2 years. https://twitter.com/tomangell/status/1011990568514342912 Schumer is trying to do it the old fashioned way.
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Happy Legal Weed Day, Vermont!
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I'm celebrating by doing the same thing I do every day.
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Unkempt posted:Happy Legal Weed Day, Vermont! I'm trying to give 4 plants away to people on reddit :-P
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I had a federal marshall walk into my dispensary, our rules say " If you are a member of law enforcement please leave" so he asked me "hey im a federal marshall and my loving back is killing me, can i be an exception??" Yes of course; he comes out like MAN IF ALL COPS DID THIS WEED WOULD BE LEGAL IN A WEEK after rubbing half a container of menthol loation on himself. Get in on it now folks, 5 years or less we will we this industry bloom into a giant. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jul 3, 2018 |
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LeoMarr posted:I had a federal marshall walk into my dispensary, our rules say " If you are a member of law enforcement please leave" so he asked me "hey im a federal marshall and my loving back is killing me, can i be an exception??" Yes of course; he comes out like MAN IF ALL COPS DID THIS WEED WOULD BE LEGAL IN A WEEK after rubbing half a container of menthol loation on himself. I am watching with bated breath to see what happens with increasing legalization in my little green state, because as soon as we have recreational sales there are going to be people trying to get in on it who need to establish some kind of web / mobile / etc presence, and suddenly there will be demand in the industry for my skill set. I can grow pretty good weeds, too, but trying to horn into the supply side seems like a much tougher battle than finding someone else who's made inroads there and has a specific need for someone who does what I do professionally. edit: just gave some plants away to a random redditor who's never grown weed before this is awesome :metal: Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 23:16 on Jul 5, 2018 |
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The UK government has given out its first license allowing a person to import THC oil for medicinal use through customs. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-44788448 hopefully now the precedents been set this'll lead to an increase in access since the NHS probably won't be in a position to expand its own cannabis based treatments for awhile.
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Well, that took less than 2 weeks. https://vtdigger.org/2018/07/11/weed-entrepreneurs-push-boundaries-vermonts-legalization-law/amp/ quote:“To celebrate, we’re offering FREE CANNABIS GIFTS to everyone over the age of 21 living in or visiting Chittenden County!” says the Facebook post announcing their services. “You simply pay a delivery fee for secure, discreet delivery of your gift to your home, office, hotel or a local meeting place!” I guess I should find a discreet Chittenden coffee house to hang out in, though driving to Burlington is pretty obnoxious. If this continues to fly, it's still going to be some period of time before anyone is offering deliveries to the boonies. Cabbages and VHS fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Jul 12, 2018 |
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