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SKULL.GIF posted:Quick glance at 538's tracker has her in the bottom quintile for Trump votes: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/house/ From what the article said Lee was positioning herself as Crowley's replacement so she's preparing I think
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Jul 11, 2018 18:28
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wrap it up, superdelegailures https://twitter.com/FHQ/status/1017098871061794817
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Jul 11, 2018 18:32
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Joementum posted:wrap it up, superdelegailures i have no idea what this means
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anime was right posted:i have no idea what this means superdelegates can no longer vote on the first ballot at the convention http://frontloading.blogspot.com/2018/06/third-way-third-way-plus-democrats.html
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Jul 11, 2018 18:42
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Matt Zerella posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/MJB_SF/status/1017039984056864768 She's your usual rich white #StillWithHer type, but the take I recall from her is one where she told people in small towns that if they weren't so bigoted they wouldn't be suffering economically iirc
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essentially - superdelegates are barred from participating in the selection of a presidential candidate except in the very rare (i.e. has never happened) scenario that there is a stalemate at the convention and no candidate is able to get 50%+1. they may also participate if one candidate wins over 59% of the pledged delegate vote (ensuring it is impossible for them to overturn it). you need only a majority of pledged delegates to win, now - superdelegates are effectively eliminated except in a very extreme scenario. a thing that's notable - in the event of a stalemate, all of the delegates are released. so although supers have influence in the second round, in the event of a 3 or 4 way fragmented convention they probably will never be decisive even if they vote as a bloc.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:50
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:We probably can if we really want to, especially if we keep investing in things like batteries. Or at least it is a way lower bar to clear than nationalizing the energy industry and getting politicians to build nuclear plants in the face of probable local opposition. Not only do we need big advances in storage tech but also a massive and expensive overhaul of the grid nationwide to be able to handle more power from intermittent energy sources. There are no easy solutions and nuclear is probably the easiest if you just want to get more reliable and low-carbon generation online as fast as possible.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:51
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Joementum posted:superdelegates can no longer vote on the first ballot at the convention not perfect, but cool
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SKULL.GIF posted:The new Speaker really should be 
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Jul 11, 2018 18:53
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anime was right posted:not perfect, but cool eh, seems fine to me. if the DNC want's to make some rich rear end in a top hat a SUPER DELEGATE cause it makes him feel important and more willing to be parted from his money, that's fine I guess, better than where we are now because they don't have any real power.
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Jul 11, 2018 18:55
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cool. now can we make them secret so CNN and co can't report them during the primaries?
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Matt Zerella posted:cool. now can we make them secret so CNN and co can't report them during the primaries? fine then a poo poo load of money if they tell a journalist who they're voting for before the convention or take away their vote for that convention they do it more than once take away their status as a superdelegate bing bong so simple
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Jul 11, 2018 18:59
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Matt Zerella posted:cool. now can we make them secret so CNN and co can't report them during the primaries? yeah that was the real problem all along -- the mainstream media tanking it hard for clinton by talking about how the delegates were already in the bag for her, and amplifying polls that showed her way in the lead
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Jul 11, 2018 19:00
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Theris posted:Is there any evidence that voters who would be inclined to vote for Manchin/Donnelly/etc but won't if they don't vote to confirm Trump's SC picks actually exist? chuck schumer heard from his imaginary friends that they would
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Jul 11, 2018 19:03
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Jul 11, 2018 19:20
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I can feel myself turning into the communist version of a Fox News dad, because I have a barely contained urge to scream "SHUT THE gently caress UP!" at these people every time they're on youtube or tv. I was watching youtube on the internet tv when an advertisement for Prager U with David Rubin came on and I wanted to impale the television with the remote.
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Jul 11, 2018 19:25
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someone's pulling a Lieberman https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1017106469244809216
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https://twitter.com/FHQ/status/1016739031521079297 https://twitter.com/FHQ/status/1016749368232247298 the rules committee has unambiguously massively improved the primary process! good news, for once. and the remaining caucuses will likely be more open and easier to participate in Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 19:29 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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Jul 11, 2018 19:27
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Coincidentally right after it was proven caucuses are better for insurgent candidates. 
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Jul 11, 2018 19:37
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Matt Zerella posted:cool. now can we make them secret so CNN and co can't report them during the primaries? you can't really tell members of congress they can't publicly endorse a candidate
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Jul 11, 2018 19:38
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Serf posted:instead of packing the court, maybe we clear the court and staff it according to our liking impeaching gorsuch wouldnt even be a hard sell since his taking the seat was a clear violation of the unwritten constitution that has kept the country from falling apart for 250 years then impeach kavanaugh because he was appointed by an actual criminal
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Jul 11, 2018 19:38
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Joementum posted:you can't really tell members of congress they can't publicly endorse a candidate at the very least they should be bound to how their state primary goes so you don't get garbage poo poo like Franken endorsing Hillary when his state went to Bernie. they can do what they want if it hits that rare scenario.
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Barry Convex posted:someone's pulling a Lieberman Nancy Floreen -- WHO IS NOT EVEN A DEMOCRAT --
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Shear Modulus posted:impeaching gorsuch wouldnt even be a hard sell since his taking the seat was a clear violation of the unwritten constitution that has kept the country from falling apart for 250 years It's pretty much guaranteed that anyone picked by Trump is mired in official corruption they could be impeached for.
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Jul 11, 2018 19:41
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Matt Zerella posted:at the very least they should be bound to how their state primary goes so you don't get garbage poo poo like Franken endorsing Hillary when his state went to Bernie. they can do what they want if it hits that rare scenario. well with the rules change they can endorse a candidate all they like but they won't be able to cast a vote at the convention. if the voters in their state don't like their endorsement, there's a remedy for that problem too. but it's clearly undemocratic to tell people they aren't allowed to express political support for candidates.
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Jul 11, 2018 19:42
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Joementum posted:well with the rules change they can endorse a candidate all they like but they won't be able to cast a vote at the convention. if the voters in their state don't like their endorsement, there's a remedy for that problem too. but it's clearly undemocratic to tell people they aren't allowed to express political support for candidates. endorse after the convention. until then the voters decide. not the people who get participation trophies.
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stache take my enerrgy
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who was it that kept posting saying that myers was better and are they still doing it after she said ice shouldnt be abolished and ironstache said it should
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Shear Modulus posted:who was it that kept posting saying that myers was better and are they still doing it after she said ice shouldnt be abolished and ironstache said it should That was WJ, and for a while that was all that was really wrong with her but the ICE thing is another
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Jul 11, 2018 19:54
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abolishing the kiddie koncentration kamps is too extreme. i say we reform them
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What does abolition even freaking mean?!?!?! TOO CONFUSING
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Shear Modulus posted:abolishing the kiddie koncentration kamps is too extreme. i say we reform them Reforming the kiddie koncentration kamps is too extreme, I say we consolidate them
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SKULL.GIF posted:yeah that was the real problem all along -- the mainstream media tanking it hard for clinton by talking about how the delegates were already in the bag for her, and amplifying polls that showed her way in the lead This is right, but uh the ability of corporate media to manufacture consent is not caused by superdelegates but by the existence of corporate media.
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Shear Modulus posted:who was it that kept posting saying that myers was better and are they still doing it after she said ice shouldnt be abolished and ironstache said it should It was me, I'm pretty sure I was the first person to post about the ICE thing, and I immediately switched positions over it e: lol she deleted the tweet WhiskeyJuvenile has issued a correction as of 20:10 on Jul 11, 2018 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:This is right, but uh the ability of corporate media to manufacture consent is not caused by superdelegates but by the existence of corporate media. Sure, but the whole "She's ahead by 300 before Iowa/New Hampshire and don't even bother showing up California" thing made it a lot easier
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http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2018/may/16/randy-bryce/randy-bryce-has-never-held-public-office-his-4th-r/ hah hah why do people trust sites like these?
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papa horny michael posted:http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2018/may/16/randy-bryce/randy-bryce-has-never-held-public-office-his-4th-r/ hah hah why do people trust sites like these? keepin it 1600!
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jul/06/alexandria-ocasio-cortez/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-misrepresents-ices-detent/ quote:Ocasio-Cortez went on to say the fact that ICE operates under the Department of Homeland Security, rather than the Department of Justice, is problematic.
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