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Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



New Raynor is real fun.

Bought the skin pack, the skins are real cool.

Welp that's my HOTS story!

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lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016
Yeah new Jimmy is loving awesome, and I love the infinite scaling trait quest at level 1. The damage just really adds up.

I like how his trait splash damage is equal to his AA damage.

Banshee seems like the good choice, it's pretty solid single-target damage that can really help out especially with the level 20 100% more talent.

As for ranked today, it was a terrible idea because I kept getting Garroshes that didn't take taunt, as well as just lovely players in general. :|

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


decimate making a vroom sound and leaving tire tracks is a legit reason to not take taunt imo

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Played a game with new Asmodunk.

On the opposing team was a Lost Vikings player who kept them all together in the same lane.

I finished that Globe of Annihilation quest real fast.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
I dont know about his overall balance but man new Jimmy feels so much better to play. Its really nice being able to pick Jimmy and actually feel like I'm contributing during all phases of a match.

Ritznit
Dec 19, 2012

I'm crackers for cheese.

Ultra Carp

Kith posted:

I can't restrain myself from taking on additional projects, so feel free to make requests on HOTS things for me to draw if you're in the market for a new avatar. I need an excuse to get back into drawing and making people happy with my lovely scribbles will probably be good motivation.

If you want, I'd be happy about anything with a Viking of your choice in their respective Pajama Party skin (standard colors). I always use that one because it's hilarious (and it's not like there are a lot of other choices). Get dunked on by three bearded men in animal pajamas, jerks.

quote:

yyyeah I kinda sorta wanted to add "stoutness also reduces quest stack credit" but like... that would be such a pain in the rear end to make happen. Because of my experience in the SCII editor and because HOTS is basically the same game, I can say with confidence that the Rework I made would be easy to build, but I have no idea where to even start making exceptions for stack credits. Or even how to signal that poo poo to other players.

That's a neat idea but maybe a bit crazy, and yeah I imagine it would be hell to communicate and get workable. I can honestly deal with the quest folks in isolation (some crazy exceptions like Kael'Thas and his giant hit area or Alarak and his everything aside), it's in the context of everything else about the Vikings where it becomes especially bad.

And people playing like this:

Der Shovel posted:

On the opposing team was a Lost Vikings player who kept them all together in the same lane.

Should not have it too easy, either. Against people like Azmodan or Kael, even a more team oriented rework Vikings set should not be huddled together IMO. Being more grouped should be a viable option, not the default in all situations. A balance to strike, for sure.

ShortStack
Jan 16, 2006

tinystax
Thrall needs a new wardrobe in the worst way. Most of his skins are really kinda boring I think.

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

ShortStack posted:

Thrall needs a new wardrobe in the worst way. Most of his skins are really kinda boring I think.

:yeah:

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

ShortStack posted:

Thrall needs a new wardrobe in the worst way. Most of his skins are really kinda boring I think.

Thrall is a bad character so it makes sense to give him boring skins

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



:wrong:

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012
All orcs are great

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
So I played Raynor on Haunted Mines (why is that still a thing?) and my Raider somehow hosed off to the void between the two maps and I couldn't get it back until I died.

Also, it's hilarious to go into try mode and hit "complete quests" with the pepper talents build and then one shot Arthas with some pepper.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
How do people play Li Ming and not die constantly? Am I just not being judicious enough in my use of Calamity when trying to finish kills?

e: also thanks for the Fenix links, I'm definitely going to buy him. Poor Stukov, *someday* we will be together....

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Corsair Pool Boy posted:

How do people play Li Ming and not die constantly? Am I just not being judicious enough in my use of Calamity when trying to finish kills?
There's a classic Grubby clip where he explains that Raynor is "good" because he doesn't let you do dumb poo poo like use your escape to engage.

but yes that is part of why Li-Ming's winrate is so low. If you fail to get the kill with calamity, now you're next to the enemy and preeetty hosed.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
You can also just not take calamity, the other talents on that tier are also strong if you're not a pro player. She plays extremely safely if you don't play the calamity style.

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

fool_of_sound posted:

All orcs are great

:orks101:

I am the idiot they made Orc Johanna for

Grammar-Bolshevik
Oct 12, 2017

Corsair Pool Boy posted:

I played 3 today, the worst was a tank, two ranged DPS and two specialists vs. Stitches, Butcher, Tassadar, Zarya, and something.

I get MM won't care about the kind of each class, but Tass and Zarya vs. no healing at all was pretty lovely, especially with Butcher and Stitches charging/hooking everything in sight.

What I don't get is if mm made one side with 'no tank' an the other side has 2 tanks, the system is just obviously not working.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Raynor is insanely good now

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


Gobbeldygook posted:

There's a classic Grubby clip where he explains that Raynor is "good" because he doesn't let you do dumb poo poo like use your escape to engage.

but yes that is part of why Li-Ming's winrate is so low. If you fail to get the kill with calamity, now you're next to the enemy and preeetty hosed.

https://clips.twitch.tv/EncouragingAssiduousPterodactylBrokeBack

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
Did they fix QM?

Also, for Li Ming tips, the NotParadox video is good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSZig_3O9Vo

Honestly, I have started watching his stuff in general and it seems good for a scrub like me. I really liked his Jaina video too.

thechalkoutline
Jul 8, 2006



Had a really strange QM game today: 2 FULL time healers on the other team, zero healers on ours. Not even an alt like Tyrande or Tass.

Everyone was diamond, and they got absolutely destroyed

Kerrzhe
Nov 5, 2008


i enjoy how he calls him by his full name, james raynor

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

thechalkoutline posted:

Had a really strange QM game today: 2 FULL time healers on the other team, zero healers on ours. Not even an alt like Tyrande or Tass.

Everyone was diamond, and they got absolutely destroyed

Welp. Looks like they didn't. Great. Awesome. Fantastic!

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Kerrzhe posted:

i enjoy how he calls him by his full name, james raynor

He's James 'Jim' 'Jimmy' Eugene Raynor to you

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

Ignite Memories posted:

I am the idiot they made Orc Johanna for

:emptyquote:

ShortStack
Jan 16, 2006

tinystax
I want Orc Jojo in the worst way but 1600 is a lot of triangles.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Jimmy’s banshee talent seems to have an issue with teleportation. I’ve definitely lost it on the walk to Haunted Mines. Banshee plus his level one minion attack, idly, makes him nuts at merc camps.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


New Jimmy is loving brutal to lane against if you're solo. I had a couple games where he just walked up to me and shot me to death.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Kith posted:

New Jimmy is loving brutal to lane against if you're solo. I had a couple games where he just walked up to me and shot me to death.

There's definitely going to be an adjustment period playing against jimmy because everyone is so used to be him being a walking wet noodle

Ritznit
Dec 19, 2012

I'm crackers for cheese.

Ultra Carp

ShortStack posted:

Thrall needs a new wardrobe in the worst way. Most of his skins are really kinda boring I think.

Yes please. I like none of his skins.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



ToastyPotato posted:

Welp. Looks like they didn't. Great. Awesome. Fantastic!

At least you checked before queueing!

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

BrianBoitano posted:

At least you checked before queueing!

MFPallyTime cut his HotS stream short because of the matchmaking issues. :(

Ignite Memories
Feb 27, 2005

Is he not allowed to play draft or something?

Ort
Jul 3, 2005

Proud graduate of the Andy Reid coaching clinic.
I also had a dumb game where 1 team had 2 tanks and 2 healers, our team had 0. We were all squishies. Sylvanas, kelthuzad, azmodan, zuljin, and Raynor I think. I wonder if the matchmaker is getting the correct 10 people for a game but not putting them on the right team.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Orthodox Rabbit posted:

There's definitely going to be an adjustment period playing against jimmy because everyone is so used to be him being a walking wet noodle

I played a bunch of PTR and I've got plenty of respect for Jims but it's hard to internalize that he can heal himself whenever the gently caress he wants (and for that matter, pull 25 armor out of nowhere while he's at it) and that makes a lot of the usual bullying options non-viable (especially for characters that rely on their bulk or sustain to equalize slugfests, like Tychus or Azmodan).

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
He's a good solo lane yrel counter at least, if you were looking for one.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Ignite Memories posted:

Is he not allowed to play draft or something?

He records QMs for youtube, probably because most people who play the game play QM. He wants to show specific heroes for specific videos and with a draft there is no guarantee he will get that hero, is my guess.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
Imo the devs have been doing a way better job at everything since the hanzo nerfs so the qm bug going on this long has been surprising given how badly it screws the game up.

The braxis changes actually seem pretty significant. I still dislike the laning phase on the map but the first wave seems far less game-deciding

No Wave fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jul 11, 2018

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

No Wave posted:

Imo the devs have been doing a way better job at everything since the hanzo nerfs so the qm bug going on this long has been surprising given how badly it screws the game up.

The braxis changes actually seem pretty significant. I still dislike the laning phase on the map but the first wave seems far less game-deciding
Yes. At any given time about half the player base is playing QM so that it's still borderline unplayable is insane.



This was an extremely cool and fair game where the red team definitely had a chance.

edit: QM and brawl are the only PVP formats available until player level 80, so for the past two days a bunch of new players have been firing up HotS for the first time and dealing with this. How can something that affects the new player experience not be a priority fix?

Gobbeldygook fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jul 11, 2018

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ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

Gobbeldygook posted:

Yes. At any given time about half the player base is playing QM so that it's still borderline unplayable is insane.



This was an extremely cool and fair game where the red team definitely had a chance.

edit: QM and brawl are the only PVP formats available until player level 80, so for the past two days a bunch of new players have been firing up HotS for the first time and dealing with this. How can something that affects the new player experience not be a priority fix?

Hots has never been a priority game. Outside of Diablo 3 to a degree, I don't think I have ever seen Blizzard give so little of a poo poo about one of their games before.

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