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Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Take the Straitsssssss............. yeeeessssssss

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Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters
Comedy option: New BFF Benin winds up eating Morocco

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



Socalists that will hopefully spawn sometime during the next turn

MaxieSatan
Oct 19, 2017

critical support for anarchists

Hashim posted:

Also, we'll probably have to decide between the Dual Monarchy and South German Federation as allies pretty soon, now that they're both strong great powers.
Hm... Have the BAVARIANS stabbed us in the back recently because they're a bunch of cowards and opportunists terrified by the underfed and ill-equipped troops of the Great Bear of the East? That seems like a major factor!

Anyway, ROYALISTS ROYALISTS ROYALISTS

Mirdini
Jan 14, 2012

The Imperialists will also unite Iberia, but also get us ready for that good good colonizing game that's about to kick off, and the train to which we definitely do not want to miss.

Plus, commerce techs are really good and we got a good amount of army research in already during this past war (certainly enough to kick Morocco's rear end again).

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
Royalists as the Moderates keep making decisions that are decidedly un-fun and dull. As Al-Frizl would say, "Take chances, make mistakes, and get messy."

Snipee
Mar 27, 2010

Crazycryodude posted:

Take the Straitsssssss............. yeeeessssssss

Vote for the Royalists if you want the Straits!

rarx
Jun 8, 2018

RabidWeasel posted:

In V2 wiping a bunch of enemy troops (especially in the early game) is actually huge because you're literally killing their population and they can never get that back, only grow the remaining pops to make up for it. Yeah we didn't get any territory and it sucks but this war will have hurt Morocco in a meaningful way.

We would have got that anyway along with Iberia and Palermo.

Royalists

Innocent_Bystander
May 17, 2012

Wait, missile production is my responsibility?

Oh.
Royalists

Morocco, for now, seems to be a paper tiger. Let's not bet everything on that remaining so.

Mirdini
Jan 14, 2012

rip on going reactionary and investing in mostly-unneeded army techs instead of desperately needed ports & commerce techs when they will get us the same end goal

imperialists also want to unite Iberia, and our army's more than good enough to take Morocco again y'all

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Mirdini posted:

The Imperialists will also unite Iberia, but also get us ready for that good good colonizing game that's about to kick off, and the train to which we definitely do not want to miss.

Plus, commerce techs are really good and we got a good amount of army research in already during this past war (certainly enough to kick Morocco's rear end again).

Africa doesn't open up until the 1870s, we should focus on our backyard first.

I do agree that after we retake Iberia we should go for colonies. Besides Africa, one of the smaller Chinese states would probably be easy to beat up, and would provide a nice counterbalance to the Moroccan Raj.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
Royalists! These European "allies" have done nothing for us. The only ally we can count on is Benin. It's time for Al-Andalus to seize its place in the world!

Pakled fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Jul 11, 2018

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW
Imperialists

For dismantling the Moroccan empire and those sweet sweet political reforms.

Talas
Aug 27, 2005

Imperialists. It's time.

tombom
Mar 8, 2006
Moderates

We've been doing good so far, there's no need to derail our inevitable rise by picking a party who'll gently caress up everything through economic destruction, political revolution or futile adventurism.

Eleven Eleven
Nov 12, 2016

Imperialists

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Imperialists come next vote is gonna be the pro move, but making sure we stay ahead in the army arms race and do a quick blitz unification that preserves our soldier pops is the most important thing here, I think. Like we did alright that last war and eventually drove them off, but they still occupied some lands and made us bleed for a couple of assaults. Imagine running that back but we have another three or four techs on them. They'd get all their poo poo stackwiped and we'd have been able to occupy enough of Leon/Quatalunia to put a war goal down to eat them, all for less pop deaths on our end. Having good enough army techs works for the defensive, but you really want a huge qualitative gap if you're gonna be going aggro.

edit: Hash, has Palmero gained any significant backing -- either influence or allies -- since the start? I.e. if Royalists were to take power would a day one intervention be feasible?

actual edit: also please spend less on bureaucrats you're gonna encourage them to be 5% of the pop :negative:

ThatBasqueGuy fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 11, 2018

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I really want a more militant faction to take advantage of Morocco's weakness, but I'm still afraid of the retrograde social policies that entails. France may have lacked respect for Andalusi ambitions on the peninsula, but drat if they didn't sweep the floor with Morocco's European allies! If everything goes well, I can imagine Morocco getting pushed back into Africa with the next war.

Speaking of which, what's going on with South Africa? Is another of Morocco's colonies slipping from its grasp?

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

Considering I am now one of the leading generals in the army it would probably be improper for me to rejoin the Majlis at this point in time. I will defer this round and work with whoever wins.

But remember this, Majlis: I don't serve you or the sultan. I serve Al-Andalus and its people.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

TheFlyingLlama posted:

Socalists that will hopefully spawn sometime during the next turn

If we never give the liberals one sniff of power for the entire V2 period and go directly from Prussian-style monarchy to socialism I will be proud of this little fake country

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U

rarx posted:

We would have got that anyway along with Iberia and Palermo.

Education > territory at this point in the game. Also we still have infamy to burn so it's not like we're sitting at zero wasting potential conquering that might have theoretically happened.

RabidWeasel fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jul 11, 2018

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Imperialists

Secure Iberia, and look abroad! I’m very happy with what the Moderates have achieved, but we need to strike while the iron is hot and Morocco is humbled.

GenderSelectScreen
Mar 7, 2010

I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME
College Slice
gently caress FRANCE FOREVER Their little shitshow got us the Moroccans even further onto the peninsula.

No more kissing their rear end; we betray them at their weakest. Imperialists

EDIT: Vote changed to Royalists

GenderSelectScreen fucked around with this message at 09:42 on Jul 12, 2018

sheep-dodger
Feb 21, 2013

If you want colonies, you have to vote Imperialists in this election.
Due to the time it takes to research and build the ports we need to claim African colonies it is imperative we do so in the 56-66 term. If we elect Imperialists next term there will simply not be any time to first research the port level techs and then upgrade the ports, which takes literally years. So unless you vote Imperialists now it's very unlikely we'll be able to grab a significant chunk of Africa.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

edit: Hash, has Palmero gained any significant backing -- either influence or allies -- since the start? I.e. if Royalists were to take power would a day one intervention be feasible?

actual edit: also please spend less on bureaucrats you're gonna encourage them to be 5% of the pop :negative:

At the moment, no they have nobody. But if we want to declare on them as soon as possible, we'd have to fabricate a CB, which would take some time. An alternative would be to wait for that event to pop up again (it'll pop up every few years, so long as Palermo is democratic), and choose the infamy-free option to intervene, forcing them into our sphere. That could mean waiting for years potentially, however, during which they could get allies.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

SlothfulCobra posted:

Speaking of which, what's going on with South Africa? Is another of Morocco's colonies slipping from its grasp?

Southern Maghrebi Republic, looks like Morocco released them as a dominion.

Tricky Dick Nixon
Jul 26, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
Imperialists.

Mr.Fahrenheit
Dec 27, 2012
Royalists cuz its time we kick some rear end and get something for it.

Grizzwold
Jan 27, 2012

Posters off the pork bow!
As a side note, what's going on in terms of national focuses for us? Generally I just completely forget about them once I get bureaucrats and clergy up.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

sheep-dodger posted:

If you want colonies, you have to vote Imperialists in this election.
Due to the time it takes to research and build the ports we need to claim African colonies it is imperative we do so in the 56-66 term. If we elect Imperialists next term there will simply not be any time to first research the port level techs and then upgrade the ports, which takes literally years. So unless you vote Imperialists now it's very unlikely we'll be able to grab a significant chunk of Africa.

...Sigh. Okay, I'm changing my vote to Imperialists

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Royalists will side with our friends in the Dual Monarchy!

aqu
Aug 1, 2006

But Mooooooooom
Imperialists

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

Royalists because I want the goddamn Straits, then we can be Imperialist or Socialist or whatever forever I don't care.

Further, because we've been clawing each other over it forever there should totally be an event or something for Morocco and Al-Andalus for if one side or the other manages to seize both sides.

hashashash
Nov 2, 2016

Cure for cancer discovered!
Court physicians hate him!

Grizzwold posted:

As a side note, what's going on in terms of national focuses for us? Generally I just completely forget about them once I get bureaucrats and clergy up.

I've already brought clergy and bureaucrats up to par, so I've been trying to increase our clerks, which is proving difficult because I started us with very few. It's been improving though, and if Royalists come to power, they'll probably want to increase our soldiers as well.

Slaan posted:

Royalists will side with our friends in the Dual Monarchy!

They're more likely to side with the Germans, I feel like

Frionnel
May 7, 2010

Friends are what make testing worth it.
My fellow Majlis members, i understand that the cowardice of our so called allies, the french, have brought feelings of betrayal and disgust in you. They did in me as well!

But we must not let the current events destroy everything we have built! Our armies have repeatedly destroyed the Moroccan invaders, and our economy grows at a steady and unrelenting pace.
Al Andalus is richer, more powerful and more respected than ever, and it is all because of the steady hand of our moderate leadership. They, and not the Royalists or the Imperialists have brought us prosperity, and we should allow them to continue their job!

Vote moderate!

Luhood
Nov 13, 2012
As the current Moderate Prime Minister of the Sultan, Uthman al-Houd can't vote anything but Moderates with a good conscience.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Royalists

Our economy isn't strong enough for the LF of the Imperialists to work for us.

Also, that french truce pulling us out of the war supporting Qattalun was bullshit and I would have save edited at that point to keep us at war with Morrocco in that war -it made no sense otherwise.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

sheep-dodger posted:

If you want colonies, you have to vote Imperialists in this election.
Due to the time it takes to research and build the ports we need to claim African colonies it is imperative we do so in the 56-66 term. If we elect Imperialists next term there will simply not be any time to first research the port level techs and then upgrade the ports, which takes literally years. So unless you vote Imperialists now it's very unlikely we'll be able to grab a significant chunk of Africa.

Plus, as Ibriz has proven, we're the faildad who has very successful kids. A vote for the Imperialists is a vote for a 21st century African superpower! (Qadis will be a nuclear crater)

Danny Glands
Jan 26, 2013

Possible thermal failure (CPU on fire?)
Imperialists! The world will be ours.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

QuoProQuid posted:

we can never rely on france again

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QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Also, Royalist because I want to eat Leon like Saturn devouring his son

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