|
chitoryu12 posted:Yeah, if he ever masters shapeshifting he can remain immortal. The only issue is that none of his human friends and family will, so he gets the choice of watching his whole world age and die one person after another or joining them in death. He can resurrect people with his tears, making them immortal in the process. I think he's alright.
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 00:20
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 12:35 |
|
|
Steven is as old as he feels.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 00:40
|
|
|
Azza Bamboo posted:If gems are all women, how does Yellow know to refer to Steven with male pronouns? Owlofcreamcheese posted:All of rose's rose themed items are really funny and theatrical now that we know rose was a fake persona. And like most of us, that tends to be a little performative at first, because it makes it easier for others to accept.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 01:30
|
|
|
Pearl "I was supposed to make her happy" I imagine Pink was being a stroppy kid when white just grabs her spare Pearl and asks her to keep Pink amused while the grown ups do serious work.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 02:04
|
|
|
 The good news: despite losing some popularity over the longest hiatus, the new episodes have attracted a lot of attention and have got many people talking about the show again! The bad news: I fear Cartoon Network will gently caress this up somehow, I can practically smell an unannounced year long hiatus. Edit: Chart taken from here: https://bismuth.tumblr.com/post/175758331433/little-graphic-i-made-for-sug-showing-the
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:05
|
|
|
Haven't they already been pretty specific about Pearl being bound to obey Pink and only Pink because she was made for her? She's Pink Pearl, not White Pearl.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:15
|
|
|
Space Cadet Omoly posted:
Also from the same Tumblr:  The official captions show Yellow saying "this aura" not "his aura". So no, it looks like Steven didn't remotely convey his maleness to her after all.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:15
|
|
|
Azza Bamboo posted:Steven's aging is messed up. It can be accelerated but also seems to have ground to a halt. It's more likely that Steven dies tearing the gem out of himself, and then Pink/Rose comes out and cries about it, restoring Steven to life with extradimensional pink hair. Steven has mentioned that he's thought about dying his hair pink more than once. Rand Brittain posted:Haven't they already been pretty specific about Pearl being bound to obey Pink and only Pink because she was made for her? Wasn't she given to Pink, not explicitly made?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:28
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:Also from the same Tumblr: Realising it's "this aura" made me think of doing this 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:32
|
|
|
ApplesandOranges posted:Steven has mentioned that he's thought about dying his hair pink more than once. She said she was given to her. That's all the info we have thus far. A deciphered picture of each gem's personal timeline says "Pink receives a new, more sensible Pearl", implying that an actual Pink Pearl existed and, just like everything else Pink wrought, was some kind of fuckup and the other Diamonds yanked her from Pink as quick as they could. E: Azza Bamboo posted:Realising it's "this aura" made me think of doing this I can't loving believe Becky Sucrose tricked Broadway Legend Patti LuPone into playing a JoJo... nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Jul 12, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:34
|
|
|
It feels like they cover amethysts eye more and more as the series goes on and that is such a weird design and by adventure time rules I predict that means she loses an eye by the end of the series (somehow)
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 03:46
|
|
|
She reformed hastily after being poofed in the first Jasper fight and now has a janky eye. I don't think all the animators remember to put it in, and they maybe cover the eye to avoid having to use it? Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Jul 12, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 04:10
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:07
|
|
|
Space Cadet Omoly posted:
The people have spoken, put Jasper and at least one of the Diamonds in every episode.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:10
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, what does happen after Steven dies? Does Rose just come back and be like “So, what did I miss? ...Why are you all looking at me like that?” Steven dies and the gem just becomes inert?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:16
|
|
|
It's been years but IIRC RS or Ian said (maybe even in this or an earlier thread back when Ian still posted) something along the lines of "Rose is gone, Steven dying won't bring her back" and I don't really expect them to change that. Even if I completely imagined that, whoever said Rose coming back would go against all the themes of the show is right.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:28
|
|
|
By anime logic when Steven dies he will become a skeleton with a gem in it and rest peacefully in a grave forever but be easily converted into an undead monster if he's disturbed.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:40
|
|
|
Moatman posted:It's been years but IIRC RS or Ian said (maybe even in this or an earlier thread back when Ian still posted) something along the lines of "Rose is gone, Steven dying won't bring her back" and I don't really expect them to change that. Even if I completely imagined that, whoever said Rose coming back would go against all the themes of the show is right. Yeah, at one point I was thinking there may be a moment where Steven uses his dream powers or gets poofed, and winds up having a conversation with an echo of his mom in his gem. The way his gem lights up and opens the temple door without him trying, and the flashes of Pink Diamond’s memories kind of implied there was some little bit of her left in there. But thematically, I think it works better if she’s just a memory, and Steven finds out about her from those that knew her and what she left behind. Speaking of, I hope they deal with the chest in Lion’s mane eventually, and it’s not an Al Capone’s Vault situation. That and White Diamond are like the two remaining mysteries on the show.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:42
|
|
|
nine-gear crow posted:She said she was given to her. That's all the info we have thus far. A deciphered picture of each gem's personal timeline says "Pink receives a new, more sensible Pearl", implying that an actual Pink Pearl existed and, just like everything else Pink wrought, was some kind of fuckup and the other Diamonds yanked her from Pink as quick as they could. I just realized that if there is a Pink Pearl still floating around out there, there's a 90% chance there's going to be an episode where she meets Steven and tries to serve on him hand and foot while Steven tries to deprogram her.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:49
|
|
|
I mean, it will never come up in the story because nobody will successfully "test" it by killing the main character of this positive-spirited cartoon, so it'll forever remain a mystery without an answer in-story. But if the question is bothering you, just go with "Steven dying would shatter the gem", even if only for the meta reason of "the possibility of Steven dying to bring back Rose ruins everything thematically so the writers probably have ruled it out."
Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jul 12, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 05:50
|
|
|
Oh my god I've just realised. They will need to find a way to get the Diamonds back off earth - does this herald the return of UUU Space Travel?
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 06:00
|
|
|
Ruby sometimes sneaks out of garnet to wrestle under the stage name RED CYCLONE!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 06:02
|
|
|
This belongs in a museum. I vote we put this in the OP.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 06:06
|
|
|
Satchel and Trunk posted:That’s cool, I was just giving them a chance to get to know each other. Bismuth is going to get married though. And also I'm pretty sure Amethyst can turn into a unicorn, bisexuality unconfirmed. (for that matter, Pearl strikes me as a horse person) And as for Steven's gem, while his dream-memories in various Gem facilities raise questions, I'm pretty sure that PD/RQ's gem was basically formatted to make room for him. (again, going with the running theme of Gems being basically solid-state computers to the point of being able to be plugged into devices as memory storage)
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 06:33
|
|
|
Azza Bamboo posted:If gems are all women, how does Yellow know to refer to Steven with male pronouns? Pretty shapely guy. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 07:00
|
|
|
Say Nothing posted:Pretty shapely guy. White Diamond was Klaus Nomi all along.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 07:36
|
|
|
Steven grew up thinking of himself as a human, but he's a gem in a really uniquely weird configuration. If gems are something like AI's, then it looks like the Diamonds have admin-like override powers over other gems. Blue sends an overriding emotion to everyone's emotion processor, and only gems with really good coping strategies can get through it. Yellow sends her lightning, and the way those angled yellow lines spread - their form isn't being attacked, they're being deconstructed. The 'Corruption Song' thing resembles a malicious code injection. We also know that when new gems pop out of the ground, they're fully formed and already carrying out orders. I think the Pink Diamond gem reformatted itself with the initial settings of a human baby, no orders, blank slate, just be lifey. Detailed down to a cellular level, made of local Earth molecules, processed by a womb made out of whatever gem bodies are. When Steven was knocked unconscious, he was fully awake and alert and looking at his body. I think that was him with his meat brain KO'd, and his Gem Consciousness functioning normally. If he dies, he'll almost definitely be able to re-form another Steven body, and it might be pinker.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 07:37
|
|
|
Diamond Fusion when????
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 07:44
|
|
|
They do it by accident and the Crystal Gems get all sarcastic about it. "Oh, so it's OK when you do it..."
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 08:09
|
|
|
Honestly kinda surprised people have such a hard time grasping the idea that Steven is probably just biologically immortal outside of violence, or his mental state making him age to death
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 08:54
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 09:46
|
|
|
Owlofcreamcheese posted:All of rose's rose themed items are really funny and theatrical now that we know rose was a fake persona. Yeah, they go from "regalia of a decorated general" to Batlaser, Batsword, Batgarden.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 11:15
|
|
|
Test Pattern posted:Yeah, they go from "regalia of a decorated general" to Batlaser, Batsword, Batgarden. Introducing Lion, the lion wonder!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 11:48
|
|
|
So Math posted:Introducing Lion, the wonder lion!
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 11:56
|
|
|
RZApublican posted:The people have spoken, put Jasper and at least one of the Diamonds in every episode. There's already a diamond in every episode
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 12:02
|
|
|
Say Nothing posted:Pretty shapely guy. It's mad how many planets they have. I really do hope they explain what they make all these soldiers for. I mean....that's specifically what Pink says they're doing - making soldiers.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 12:03
|
|
|
drrockso20 posted:Honestly kinda surprised people have such a hard time grasping the idea that Steven is probably just biologically immortal outside of violence, or his mental state making him age to death He does also seem to need food, water and air to sustain himself, notably contrasted with the revived Lars, who doesn't. On pondering Homeworld heirarchy, I do wonder if the Gem types namedropped in What's The Use of Feeling Blue are particularly high-ranking ones, that the Diamonds would interact with directly often; Sapphires are noted to be rare aristocrats who are called on to personally advise the Diamonds during times of crisis, Agates are namedropped (and again in the trial, when Blue Zircon questions where the Agates serving Pink Diamonds were during her supposed assassination) and the one we see is in charge of a group of Quartzes, so they're likely field marshals/generals meant to keep soldiers in line through terror and strength, and Lapis is mentioned as a terraformer- given Lapis Lazuli is capable of controlling the entire ocean of a planet that's 2/3 water, and can travel to Homeworld and back on her own power, I imagine they're pretty rare and elite as utility gems go. (And given younger Gems have less powers and physical strength because of conserving resources, it's probably hard to produce new Lapises) Also, I'm betting that a fusion of Lapis Lazuli and Peridot will be able to control earth/stone. Also: Uncle Grandpa tells Steven to polish his gem once or twice a year. Guess what advice doesn't make sense for rose quartz but does for diamonds? Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 12:57 on Jul 12, 2018 |
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 12:03
|
|
|
Owlofcreamcheese posted:By anime logic when Steven dies he will become a skeleton with a gem in it and rest peacefully in a grave forever but be easily converted into an undead monster if he's disturbed. No, he'll just become A Real Magic Skeleton and move to Lakewood Plaza. 
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 14:03
|
|
|
Taear posted:It's mad how many planets they have. There's one option that's a bit more benign than "There's a secret threat even more dangerous than Homeworld that they're building an army to fight": they need soldiers to clear out planets of life that may resist their terraforming procedures.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 14:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 12:35 |
|
|
chitoryu12 posted:There's one option that's a bit more benign than "There's a secret threat even more dangerous than Homeworld that they're building an army to fight": they need soldiers to clear out planets of life that may resist their terraforming procedures. If it does turn out that the Gem were created to combat an outside threat, I want it to be revealed that they defeated that threat millions of years ago and just kept building an army because that was all they knew how to do.
|
|
#
?
Jul 12, 2018 14:28
|
|
