OSHA: definitely bent in the straight places

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ekuNNN: Nov 27, 2004; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Here's a pretty recent article on the state of Flint's water:
https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2018/04/officials-say-flints-water-is-safe-residents-say-its-not-scientists-say-its-complicated/

Most relevant part:

quote:

Edwards notes that worried residents may have a point. �The data we�ve collected is now not in disagreement with the state showing that Flint is in the range of federal standards,� Edwards explains, �But that doesn�t mean its safe.� While lead service lines, the pipe that connects homes to municipal water sources, are a big source of contamination, Edwards explains that there are others that are inside the home and not owned by the government, including the glue that�s used to hold pipes together and galvanized steel pipes, which can contain lead in the coating. �It�s a risk in any old city with lead pipes,� he says.

Through the Flint Action and Sustainability Team Start program, an initiative funded by the state and federal government, officials are aiming to replace the 18,000 lead service lines across the city. As of December 2017, more than 6,000 pipes have been replaced.

Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha thinks the city should end the bottled-water service only when lead service lines can be replaced�which isn�t expected to happen until 2020.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 01:47

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# ? Jun 1, 2024 16:06

LostCosmonaut: Feb 15, 2014

OSHA as hell but also owns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08rnibuSlvE

# ? Jul 12, 2018 02:32

KoRMaK: Jul 31, 2012

violent sex idiot posted:

he elaborated further that if someone can show him a test with higher than approved ppm of dissolved solids he will have someone deliver and install a water filter, since according ot musk the water in flint is already mostly safe people just dont trust test results

Ok so he's gonna fund the tests for anyone that requests it right? Cuz if I were a person in flint, I'm sure id have the means to do that on my own already....

# ? Jul 12, 2018 02:42

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Found while googling an unrelated subject:

quote:

August 25, 1992

The Honorable J. James Exon
United States Senator
287 Federal Building
100 Centennial Mall
North Lincoln, Nebraska 68508

Dear Senator Exon:

This is in further response to your letter of June 23, on behalf of your constituent, Dr. Robert McKeeman, in which you requested information on the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) regulation 29 CFR 1910.1030, "Occupational Exposure to Bloodborne Pathogens."

With respect to Dr. McKeeman's first question regarding OSHA requirements to prohibit all eating and drinking in the waiting room, we can clarify for him that OSHA's jurisdiction covers only employees of an establishment, not patients or clients. Paragraph (d)(2)(ix) of this regulation prohibits the consumption of food and drink by employees in areas of the establishment in which work involving exposure or potential exposure to blood or other potentially infectious materials (OPIM) occurs, or where the potential for contamination of work surfaces exists.

OSHA, therefore, does not require that a doctor prohibit patients from eating or drinking, or mothers from feeding hungry babies, in the waiting room. Further, assuming that under the specific conditions in a given establishment it is not reasonably anticipated that a waiting patient could contaminate cups or other serving utensils which the employees would handle, serving those patients coffee would likewise not be prohibited.

Regarding Dr. McKeeman's concern that OSHA's compliance officers "... have to generate enough fines to pay for their wages, and for the expenses of the department ...," OSHA is funded through the normal governmental budgetary process, not through generation of fines. Section 17(1) of the Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 states, "... Civil penalties owed under this Act shall be paid to the Secretary for deposit into the Treasury of the United States and shall accrue to the United States ...."

We hope this information is responsive to your concerns.

Sincerely,

Patricia K. Clark, Director
Directorate of Compliance Programs

# ? Jul 12, 2018 03:01

jsoh: Mar 24, 2007; O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

KoRMaK posted:

Ok so he's gonna fund the tests for anyone that requests it right? Cuz if I were a person in flint, I'm sure id have the means to do that on my own already....

elon musk is a loving rear end in a top hat

# ? Jul 12, 2018 04:14

mostlygray: Nov 1, 2012; BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

Years ago, I used to work in shipping and distribution. We had a rock that was in a very inappropriate place at the corner of the turn-around. It sat on the grass about 4 feet in from the curb. This rock was huge. Very obvious. Big enough to hang up a trailer. Drivers would complain about it all the time. They would piss and moan about how it was in their way but they could get around it 99% of the time.

They never understood why it was there. It was simply to make it obvious that they needed to swing wide on the turn. There was plenty of room, even with a sleeper and a 53', to make the turn. Drivers do "cut corners" though when they're tired.

When a driver would hang up their trailer on the rock and yell at me, I'd remind them that they proved the purpose of the rock. If the rock hadn't stopped them, they'd have been dragging parked cars. Suddenly having to back up a few feet and take the turn wide was better than nailing a couple cars with their tail.

We only had one dude try to power through the rock. He did screw up his trailer and dragged the rock 10 feet into the parking lot. We had to have a guy with big loader put it back for us. Still, our rock always saved cars. Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 05:05

Ixian: Oct 9, 2001; Many machines on Ix....new machines; Pillbug

mostlygray posted:

Years ago, I used to work in shipping and distribution. We had a rock that was in a very inappropriate place at the corner of the turn-around. It sat on the grass about 4 feet in from the curb. This rock was huge. Very obvious. Big enough to hang up a trailer. Drivers would complain about it all the time. They would piss and moan about how it was in their way but they could get around it 99% of the time.

They never understood why it was there. It was simply to make it obvious that they needed to swing wide on the turn. There was plenty of room, even with a sleeper and a 53', to make the turn. Drivers do "cut corners" though when they're tired.

When a driver would hang up their trailer on the rock and yell at me, I'd remind them that they proved the purpose of the rock. If the rock hadn't stopped them, they'd have been dragging parked cars. Suddenly having to back up a few feet and take the turn wide was better than nailing a couple cars with their tail.

We only had one dude try to power through the rock. He did screw up his trailer and dragged the rock 10 feet into the parking lot. We had to have a guy with big loader put it back for us. Still, our rock always saved cars. Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill.

Many years ago I used to drive for UPS and there was a very similar jersey barrier set out at the turn in for the warehouse, put in place for the same reason. I would guess before this block was in place in the video there were trucks taking out the fence post or scraping the poo poo out of their trailers from tight turns.

The amazing thing about this video is the sheer pigheaded persistence of the driver. No possible way he/she didn't know something was hosed and decided to power through it anyway.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 07:18

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

starkebn posted:

I bet he tries to pay someone to take the "sub" through the cave when the area is open again.

A Swedish female journalist, maybe?

# ? Jul 12, 2018 09:14

Humphreys: Jan 26, 2013; We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule

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# ? Jul 12, 2018 09:25

Nice piece of fish: Jan 29, 2008; Ultra Carp

Nenonen posted:

A Swedish female journalist, maybe?

But how would you find one that could even fit inside?

# ? Jul 12, 2018 09:29

Lurking Haro: Oct 27, 2009

Nice piece of fish posted:

But how would you find one that could even fit inside?

Piece by piece.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 10:13

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Lurking Haro posted:

Piece by piece.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 11:36

DrPossum: May 15, 2004; i am not a surgeon

xpost from the #blessed thread

bloom posted:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6514743/builders-wear-skirts-on-development-site/

quote:

SWELTERING builders told they could not wear shorts under health and safety rules beat the ban � by turning up in skirts.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 12:06

null_pointer: Nov 9, 2004; Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

God drat, the thread just took a dark turn.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 13:04

GotLag: Jul 17, 2005; 食べちゃダメだよ

quote:

The brickies, working on a development of flats and houses in 26�C heat, were stunned when told a long trousers-only dress code was in force on their site.

quote:

sweltering heat

Mockery aside it's a good protest

# ? Jul 12, 2018 13:04

Leviathan Song: Sep 8, 2010

Ixian posted:

Many years ago I used to drive for UPS and there was a very similar jersey barrier set out at the turn in for the warehouse, put in place for the same reason. I would guess before this block was in place in the video there were trucks taking out the fence post or scraping the poo poo out of their trailers from tight turns.

The amazing thing about this video is the sheer pigheaded persistence of the driver. No possible way he/she didn't know something was hosed and decided to power through it anyway.

If you look closely, the jersey barrier is protecting a fire hydrant. I imagine the fire department gets pretty pissed if you take one of those out.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 13:36

The Locator: Sep 12, 2004; Out here, everything hurts.

GotLag posted:

Mockery aside it's a good protest

I was just about to mock them for 78~79 degrees being 'sweltering heat'. Too funny.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 17:26

Kith: Sep 17, 2009; You never learn anything
by doing it right.

https://i.imgur.com/rbvNBJS.gifv

truckers are always osha

# ? Jul 12, 2018 18:17

haveblue: Aug 15, 2005; Toilet Rascal

Ah, the rarely seen Reverse Self-PIT maneuver

# ? Jul 12, 2018 18:22

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

GotLag posted:

Mockery aside it's a good protest

Not really, their skirts aren�t long enough to protect their skin from hazards.

They going to protest against closed toe shoes next?

# ? Jul 12, 2018 18:39

Blast of Confetti: Apr 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ZenMasterBullshit posted:

You're actually praising a billionaire for armchair coaching a situation outside his area of expertise like it makes him somewhat likable.

reminder that elon got in to an over the phone slapfight with the guy in charge because he told him to gently caress off. he's a thin skinned idiot and the exact type of person you don't want loving around nearby when lives are on the line

# ? Jul 12, 2018 18:48

Butterfly Valley: Apr 19, 2007; I am a spectacularly bad poster and everyone in the Schadenfreude thread hates my guts.

It�s a good protest when kids in school turn up in skirts because shorts aren�t part of the official school uniform, for builders to be doing it is just dumb

# ? Jul 12, 2018 18:50

value-brand cereal: May 2, 2008

DrPossum posted:

xpost from the #blessed thread

Correction! Only five workers showed up in skirts and.or dresses. One person whipped out their best Flintsones halloween outfit in solidarity.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 18:51

LifeSunDeath: Jan 4, 2007; still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Blast of Confetti posted:

reminder that elon got in to an over the phone slapfight with the guy in charge because he told him to gently caress off. he's a thin skinned idiot and the exact type of person you don't want loving around nearby when lives are on the line

it's funny that the cultural douche-baggery of South African whites extends to their nerds too.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:05

Gina like vagina: May 8, 2007; "Tears of the Mariners."

I think I read a review of that. Thought it was one of those baseball stories like "Pride of the Yankees", you know? But it's just about some crabby old sailors, stuck in this little town.

What kind of country doesn't let tradesmen wear shorts when it's hot? Nothing in Australia would ever get built if they had to wear trousers in summer (or ever). Tradie shorts are a tradition here.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:06

LifeSunDeath: Jan 4, 2007; still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Gina like vagina posted:

What kind of country doesn't let tradesmen wear shorts when it's hot? Nothing in Australia would ever get built if they had to wear trousers in summer (or ever). Tradie shorts are a tradition here.

could be worse I suppose

I would catch my pants in stuff constantly. I think Japanese construction guys claim it gives them better sense of stuff as they can feel when they brush up against things, but I'd be the guy wrapped around a lathe as a result.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:10

Sagebrush: Feb 26, 2012

a fair point except it wasn't hot

it was 26 degrees celsius

that's like perfect beautiful summer day weather

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:11

Blast of Confetti: Apr 21, 2008; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

LifeSunDeath posted:

could be worse I suppose

I would catch my pants in stuff constantly. I think Japanese construction guys claim it gives them better sense of stuff as they can feel when they brush up against things, but I'd be the guy wrapped around a lathe as a result.

these are the same guys that dont use safety harnesses so

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:12

dis astranagant: Dec 14, 2006

Summer day? that's a nice day in March or April.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:13

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Gina like vagina posted:

What kind of country doesn't let tradesmen wear shorts when it's hot? Nothing in Australia would ever get built if they had to wear trousers in summer (or ever). Tradie shorts are a tradition here.

I can't think of anyone in America wearing anything other than jeans during the summer. Just more breaks to cool off/hydrate when it's hot (i.e. at least over 80F)

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:22

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Gina like vagina posted:

What kind of country doesn't let tradesmen wear shorts when it's hot? Nothing in Australia would ever get built if they had to wear trousers in summer (or ever). Tradie shorts are a tradition here.

Any country where insurance companies exist? Also does anything in Australia get built? (Explosive-clad high-rise buildings notwithstanding.)

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:23

spog: Aug 7, 2004; It's your own bloody fault.

Gina like vagina posted:

What kind of country doesn't let tradesmen wear shorts when it's hot? Nothing in Australia would ever get built if they had to wear trousers in summer (or ever). Tradie shorts are a tradition here.

Just to clarify: there are no laws that say tradesmen can't wear shorts: this is purely a specific construction company rule.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 19:34

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

spog posted:

Just to clarify: there are no laws that say tradesmen can't wear shorts: this is purely a specific construction company rule.

Depends on what you�re working with actually.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 20:16

evil_bunnY: Apr 2, 2003

Jerry Cotton posted:

Any country where insurance companies exist?

Motherfucking all countries in scandinavia have tradesmen shorts. Cover your knees and you'll be fine.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 20:40

Nierbo: Dec 5, 2010; sup brah?

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

Somewhere in Canada this is a thing.

Yeah Brewhouse has em. deep fried Cinnamon things and cream for the cheese and caramel sauce for the 'gravy'.

# ? Jul 12, 2018 20:43

schmug: May 20, 2007

Nierbo posted:

Yeah Brewhouse has em. deep fried Cinnamon things and cream for the cheese and caramel sauce for the 'gravy'.

But can you wear shorts with them?

# ? Jul 12, 2018 20:44

spankmeister: Jun 15, 2008

LifeSunDeath posted:

could be worse I suppose

I would catch my pants in stuff constantly. I think Japanese construction guys claim it gives them better sense of stuff as they can feel when they brush up against things, but I'd be the guy wrapped around a lathe as a result.

Wouldn't want to drop anything on your toes either

# ? Jul 12, 2018 20:45