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Kilometres Davis posted:Why is there so much PHP? there was a time when it was that or html out the rear end
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Jul 10, 2018 15:34
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so the company brought me on-site for an interview last week which went pretty well, and the head of the division called me today to address some concerns i had and to tell me that "we're rebuilding the team and don't have many people with strong development skills* at the moment so we would want you in a hybrid role to get heavily into the development work for upcoming projects" (* the role is "systems engineer", meaning post-sales deployment/integration/devops, my background is in straight r&d but i tend to find those types of problems more interesting) and after all that, nobody has commented on the salary number i gave them  but i'm feeling positive about it
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Jul 11, 2018 00:53
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Love to apply for a mid level full stack role and get put forward for tech lead, good job recruitaBoiled Water posted:there was a time when it was that or html out the rear end Considering how much COBOL is still out there I guess my lust for the death of the LAMP stack will never be saited.
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Jul 11, 2018 02:20
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ugh a former colleague is pitching a job to me that sounds great on paper but it's a defense contractor for the air force and that sounds like it would be even worse than contracting with the civilian government
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Jul 11, 2018 12:56
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Blinkz0rz posted:ugh a former colleague is pitching a job to me that sounds great on paper but it's a defense contractor for the air force and that sounds like it would be even worse than contracting with the civilian government if memes are to be trusted the air force is the richest branch of the american armed forces, i mean if that's whats worrying you
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Jul 11, 2018 13:19
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why does every company want to be google. why is this 30 person startup trying to do a 7hour interview. gently caress offffffffffff
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Jul 11, 2018 13:56
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Phobeste posted:why does every company want to be google. why is this 30 person startup trying to do a 7hour interview. gently caress offffffffffff hr is nothing if not a cargo cult
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Jul 11, 2018 14:11
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I'm gonna start responding to some recruiters on LinkedIn today
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Jul 11, 2018 15:25
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Bloody posted:I'm gonna start responding to some recruiters on LinkedIn today 
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Jul 11, 2018 15:41
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Bloody posted:I'm gonna start responding to some recruiters on LinkedIn today it's fun and they're usually very positive people
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Jul 11, 2018 15:51
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Kilometres Davis posted:Considering how much COBOL is still out there I guess my lust for the death of the LAMP stack will never be saited. poo poo's that written in COBOL usually keeps working no matter what unless you improperly gently caress with it, that's why it's been there for 30/40/50 years. PHP on the other hand...
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Jul 11, 2018 17:12
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Boiled Water posted:if memes are to be trusted the air force is the richest branch of the american armed forces, i mean if that's whats worrying you not so worried about getting paid vs going back to serving the public sector (used to work for a govt contractor that did civilian work) and all the garbage found there in
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Jul 11, 2018 18:46
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lol if you think in 30 years corps wont be locked into arcane php baggage just as they are to cobol now
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Jul 11, 2018 18:48
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Blinkz0rz posted:not so worried about getting paid vs going back to serving the public sector (used to work for a govt contractor that did civilian work) and all the garbage found there in you will never be rid of the garbage, never
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Jul 11, 2018 19:56
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Boiled Water posted:there was a time when it was that or html out the .pl dark times
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Jul 11, 2018 20:44
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Is it wrong to want to stay at my current job for as long as possible so I don't have to do another technical interview? Because I still don't know how I passed the one that got me my job.
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Jul 11, 2018 21:43
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SardonicTyrant posted:Is it wrong to want to stay at my current job for as long as possible so I don't have to do another technical interview? Because I still don't know how I passed the one that got me my job. 
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Jul 11, 2018 21:44
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SardonicTyrant posted:Is it wrong to want to stay at my current job for as long as possible so I don't have to do another technical interview? Because I still don't know how I passed the one that got me my job. yes b/c you should always be interviewing
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Jul 11, 2018 21:45
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who knows, i suspect that i got my last job because the interviewers were amused when my super mario world ringtone went off
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Jul 11, 2018 22:25
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i’ve run into this enough times consulting that it’s starting to really get on my nerves so lord help anyone that can’t loving touch-type when i interview them jfc
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Jul 11, 2018 23:13
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Rex-Goliath posted:i’ve run into this enough times consulting that it’s starting to really get on my nerves so lord help anyone that can’t loving touch-type when i interview them hey I can't perform when someone is watching check your privilege 
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Jul 12, 2018 02:48
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meatpotato posted:just got back on Saturday from my four-month self-arranged “sabbatical” studying Chinese in Taiwan and a job might already be in the works. i met with the industrial design shop yesterday. they need somebody to replace their main firmware contractor since he’s retiring. they’re not looking for a full-time employee because they don’t have enough continuous firmware work to justify one. they also said they have two options for getting paid: part-time with hours varying according to the project, or as an independent contractor. pros: * I want to do independent contracting and this is a chance to do that. * Seems like they have their poo poo together regarding project planning and management (ie. they actually do some project planning and use estimates to set deliverable dates, not the other way around). they also have a history of successfully completing projects. * Long-established team (but I will not be part of it) and a stable network of independent contractors they shop work out to. not a place with crazy turnaround. * the project they want to hire me for sounds sane and something I could succeed at. * the EE is extremely experienced and I could probably learn a few things from him. * convenient commute. cons: * not a software shop so probably doesn’t pay great, but I don’t actually know yet. hours won’t be full-time level either. * development environment sounds crufty, but not sure how bad. not sure if they use version control and they almost certainly don’t do automated software testing. I might be able to effect change but I also admit I don’t know much about modern development practices (besides using version control). * nobody to offer mentorship in software development. may learn other skills, however. not sure: * the project is a low-volume product with a high cost and a sensitive schedule so they’re just going to throw expensive and powerful pre-made modules at it. this might be a pro for some people because it makes development easier, but it’s the opposite experience of my last job and I feel a little uneasy because it sounds sloppy. * most people are in their late 50s or 60s. this could mean they are wise and can teach me or this could mean they’re coasting to retirement and are running on autopilot. * they interviewed three others (all much older than me) but decided their skills weren’t in-line with the project. sounds like most others were EEs by trade and they need somebody a little more skilled in software. not sure what this says about caliber of applicant. they said that they’ll have more info on Friday. I charged $130 an hour with my last client, but that was short-term, about 100 hours total. not sure if I should expect the same here since they’re not a a silicon valley startup and the project here sounds longer. I’m currently jobless and typically hopeless at technical interviews so I’m leaning towards taking the job if they pay more than $50 an hour. if it’s over $100 I think I’ll almost certainly take it. thoughts?
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Jul 12, 2018 07:49
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Neslepaks posted:lol if you think in 30 years corps wont be locked into arcane php baggage just as they are to cobol now I don't know if facebook is still stuck in php land but if they can't get out then there's little hope for anyone else
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Jul 12, 2018 07:54
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Maximum Leader posted:I don't know if facebook is still stuck in php land but if they can't get out then there's little hope for anyone else You'd think it would be easier to change a smaller shop than facebook. Think turning a sloop versus an oil tanker full of poop.
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Jul 12, 2018 08:47
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Boiled Water posted:You'd think it would be easier to change a smaller shop than facebook. Think turning a sloop versus an oil tanker full of poop. Poop sloop.
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Jul 12, 2018 12:32
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Boiled Water posted:You'd think it would be easier to change a smaller shop than facebook. Think turning a sloop versus an oil tanker full of poop. Yes but a smaller shop isn't going to have hundreds of engineers reinventing the wheel over and over again
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Jul 12, 2018 16:20
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Maximum Leader posted:Yes but a smaller shop isn't going to have hundreds of engineers reinventing the wheel over and over again hahaha of course they are, just that each time the project will not cover all their existing cases and they will never adopt it, so next year another team can a stab at reinventing the wheels
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Jul 12, 2018 16:59
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Maximum Leader posted:Yes but a smaller shop isn't going to have hundreds of engineers reinventing the wheel over and over again Good joke there, Maximum Leader.
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Jul 12, 2018 17:13
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Maximum Leader posted:Yes but a smaller shop isn't going to have hundreds of engineers reinventing the wheel over and over again yeah it’ll only be dozens
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Jul 12, 2018 18:47
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https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/705255770/ posted:System Administrator
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Jul 12, 2018 22:12
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Oh gently caress I am giving my first interview next week and this guy sounds way too good to be working here what do I do?
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Jul 12, 2018 23:01
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Steve Jorbs posted:Oh gently caress I am giving my first interview next week and this guy sounds way too good to be working here what do I do? Suck his dick.
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Jul 12, 2018 23:06
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meatpotato posted:thoughts? If you need the money or are willing to grind it out, yea Otherwise medium
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Jul 13, 2018 00:07
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Steve Jorbs posted:Oh gently caress I am giving my first interview next week and this guy sounds way too good to be working here what do I do? Only small, though.
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Jul 13, 2018 00:25
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i’m dead loving serious if you fancy yourself a computer touched and can’t even type/touch computers effectively i will judge you super harshly
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Jul 13, 2018 01:41
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Steve Jorbs posted:Oh gently caress I am giving my first interview next week and this guy sounds way too good to be working here what do I do? ask him to give you a call when he finds his new gig
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Jul 13, 2018 01:56
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Steve Jorbs posted:Oh gently caress I am giving my first interview next week and this guy sounds way too good to be working here what do I do? are you basing this on the resume? if so...
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Jul 13, 2018 02:02
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Fiedler posted:are you basing this on the resume? if so... yeah step 1 is the same as always, figure out if their resume is a pack of lies where would they be joining your org? senior on your team? in your management chain? assuming step 1 goes well and you're not able to grill them technically, i've focused on behavioral questions. "can you describe a time when a junior engineer was stuck on a problem, and what steps you took to help them?" and interpret the answer as 'what if my boss did X'. it's totally okay to say "no hire, could code circles around me but is a jerk and wouldn't be a culture fit with our org"
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Jul 13, 2018 02:34
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i'm going to start my first job search in 4 years. last time was as a junior a few years out of school, re-reading my old resume makes me cringe anyway a couple of resume q's: - if you worked with a small team on a big Thing X, is saying "implemented Thing X" or "helped implement Thing X" better? - should i leave my free time projects on or off? for instance i have a thing of medium complexity (chess AI) but i haven't worked on it in years. would interviewers care? e: should i just recommit it to github so it looks like i worked on it recently?
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Jul 13, 2018 04:26
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say you did it all yourself and your teammates just cheered you on. seriously just say you did X and it was part of a larger blah blah that resulted in more clicks/users, reduced costs, etc don’t put free time projects if they aren’t active, someone will check your github and see it hasn’t been touched in months
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Jul 13, 2018 04:39
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