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Ibram Gaunt posted:https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-07-11/q-hayashida-dorohedoro-manga-ends-in-3-chapters/.134141 So 23 is the last volume?
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Dorohedoro is one of the few Manga I would say is exhaustsing to binge because around the blue moon festival things get really compact with plot lines that are happening and it only gets denser from there. I am curious if it will actually end in 3 chapters because Dorohedoro has been ending for like two years now.
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dogsicle posted:lol yeah right Eh last time she said it, it felt more vague. This feels slightly more serious
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Jul 12, 2018 16:03
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I hope it ends because this is the natural point and not because of some forn of pressure.
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Jul 12, 2018 16:57
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I'm not sure how they can wrap up the series in just 3 chapters. I mean, there's still the people being digested inside Hole, the last time travel shot, that girl in the magic world who flew into Hole's door, and possibly more that I don't remember.
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Mraagvpeine posted:It seems that the moment a series introduces rape into its story, that series turns to poo poo. Or am I overgeneralizing? Schubalts posted:It really depends on how the series is written following it. Some can pull it off, like Berserk, but most can not. Goblin Slayer is pretty drat good and it opens up with almost the whole party getting raped or eaten. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Charlz Guybon posted:Goblin Slayer is pretty drat good and it opens up with almost the whole party getting raped or eaten. 
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Jul 13, 2018 02:59
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It a pretty grim dark setting, but so is Berserk and Warhammer.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Goblin Slayer is pretty drat good and it opens up with almost the whole party getting raped or eaten. Goblin slayer starts off with a really lazy way of showing basic competency on the part of the main character by having the first party die because they were literally untrained and way too overconfident. The rape was purely shock value to draw attention to the story itself and it's dropped relatively early in the first volume in favor of a more standard approach to fantasy world + adventurer guild stories. I really don't know if I'd say it's pretty drat good after all that either.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:42
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Charlz Guybon posted:It a pretty grim dark setting, but so is Berserk and Warhammer. Both are better written, which is saying some pretty loving insulting things about Goblin Slayer considering Warhammer is on that list.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:46
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Brought To You By posted:Goblin slayer starts off with a really lazy way of showing basic competency on the part of the main character by having the first party die because they were literally untrained and way too overconfident. The rape was purely shock value to draw attention to the story itself and it's dropped relatively early in the first volume in favor of a more standard approach to fantasy world + adventurer guild stories. I really don't know if I'd say it's pretty drat good after all that either. While it's not shown on a screen much after the first couple of chapters I wouldn't really call it dropped. It's baked into the background of the setting. It's how the goblins reproduce. The possibility of getting raped or eaten alive hangs over every character that interacts with goblins in any way, even the characters who are S teir and usually fight dragons.
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Mulva posted:Both are better written, which is saying some pretty loving insulting things about Goblin Slayer considering Warhammer is on that list. Berserk, sure, but Warhammer novels are not better written.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:49
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lmao it's how the goblins reproduce this is somehow stupider than anything else i've heard about it
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Jul 13, 2018 03:50
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Nothing I've heard about Goblin Slayer has made me want to read it.
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Jul 13, 2018 03:58
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It's just the way the world works man there's nothing the writer could possibly have done about it
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All I know about Goblin Slayer is that it sure seems to attract a particular crowd of people that I want to have nothing in common with.
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Charlz Guybon posted:While it's not shown on a screen much after the first couple of chapters I wouldn't really call it dropped. It's baked into the background of the setting. It's how the goblins reproduce. The possibility of getting raped or eaten alive hangs over every character that interacts with goblins in any way, even the characters who are S teir and usually fight dragons. It's dropped in the sense that it's not a plot point worth talking about. And even then if the author did it would just call into question why Goblins aren't considered a bigger threat since they would primarily contest humanity as a whole. I never bought the whole "goblins are less important than Liches" angle because the main setting of the story is so far divorced from all those other, bigger threats, that goblins should basically be public enemy #1. The writer wants me to believe it's just the God's playing D&D, but no game master I know would have a setting as contrived as this one.
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dogsicle posted:lmao it's how the goblins reproduce it's literally exactly the same as the trolls from berserk  like it doesn't sound like my bag but the level of sketchiness doesn't seem above the norm for "dark fantasy"
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dogsicle posted:lmao it's how the goblins reproduce This is an already an existing and inexplicably popular trope in Japanese fantasy. Just look at the terrible manga Re:Monster where the main character is a young salary man who is reincarnated as a Goblin rape baby and it's just glossed over as no big deal, and he gets his own harem later on. Goblin Slayer plays the idea straight from the point of view of the victims to rub the readers face in it that this poo poo is loving horrible. Brought To You By posted:It's dropped in the sense that it's not a plot point worth talking about. And even then if the author did it would just call into question why Goblins aren't considered a bigger threat since they would primarily contest humanity as a whole. I never bought the whole "goblins are less important than Liches" angle because the main setting of the story is so far divorced from all those other, bigger threats, that goblins should basically be public enemy #1. The point of it is that the 15 year old girl running around in the background slaying demon lords is who most books would be focusing on as the main character, but they're the 1% of the 1%. There are so many manga and LN being published these days where a totally overpowered progtagonists runs roughshod over a fantasy world. But, for the vast, vast majority of their inhabitants a medieval fantasy world sucks rear end, and Goblin Slayer follows those folks around. The author is basically working the GRRM angle. Charlz Guybon fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jul 13, 2018 |
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Jul 13, 2018 05:06
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GRRM loves rape you've got me there
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And GRRM writes terrible books. Connection?Mulva posted:[Warhammer] is better written Let's not say things we can't take back.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Goblin Slayer plays the idea straight from the point of view of the victims to rub the readers face in it that this poo poo is loving horrible. That sounds extremely juvenile. Why is it necessary to "rub the readers face in" about rape?
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:That sounds extremely juvenile. Why is it necessary to "rub the readers face in" about rape? How else are they gonna get off?
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DisDisDis posted:GRRM loves rape you've got me there it would be the only way he'd have sex if he weren't so physically unfit as to be incapable
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I came here to laugh.
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Laugh at life in general, but mostly because the dude ctrl-f'd the word 'rape' to find a reason to post about goblin slayer since those posts they're responding to are like 5 months old.
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Charlz Guybon posted:The point of it is that the 15 year old girl running around in the background slaying demon lords is who most books would be focusing on as the main character, but they're the 1% of the 1%. There are so many manga and LN being published these days where a totally overpowered progtagonists runs roughshod over a fantasy world. But, for the vast, vast majority of their inhabitants a medieval fantasy world sucks rear end, and Goblin Slayer follows those folks around. The author is basically working the GRRM angle.
There are more I could consider but the end result of these questions is a story where it's frustrating to think about how the fictional world operates because it's missing any underlying logic to it. Not exactly good storytelling and it's just another example of an incredibly mediocre story getting pushed to the forefront (with two manga adaptations and an upcoming anime).
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The goblin requests keep getting handed off to new adventurers so the author has a reason to have them get raped, by the goblins, duder. It's an actively malicious comic, more than lazy writing. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jul 13, 2018 |
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Charlz Guybon posted:Berserk, sure, but Warhammer novels are not better written. 40k sure Warhammer fantasy can be rad as gently caress though.
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I skimmed over the first chapter of Goblin Slayer back when it was translated (it was trash), does the author ever try to justify why female adventurers should be sent to clean out goblins even though raping human females is their only means of reproduction? Or indeed why the group in the first chapter consists mostly of women? Seems like a bit of an oversight!
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I had a dude at work bring up Goblin Slayer, that was an awkward conversation and I'm glad he's since switched gears to talking about MHA and some Mimic LN.
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Brought To You By posted:The concept is interesting "what if we told a story from the perspective of a background character" is a novel idea. But the execution has the setting bending over backwards to make Goblins some major threat relative to everywhere the titular character exists instead of being the nuisance they are told to be. Mostly by having people just behave completely unrealistic in the face of the danger they actually present. I've only read the first novel but the starting setting is a frontier so far away from the actual front-line of fighting that they don't even get news of the demon lord's defeat for a couple days. If Goblins are the most prevalent attacking force to the point that the Guild officials are stated to actually want a dedicated goblin extermination force I ask the following questions: The Goblins are civilization destroying menace and everything else running around the world is worse. IIRC the novels imply the world has been destroyed before, but the Gods just recreate it to keep playing the game. We see the guild subsidize payment when the goblin army marches on the cow girls farm. Plenty of higher ranked adventures signed up because the money made the danger worth while. The poor villages don't because they can't afford it.
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Charlz Guybon posted:Thats like asking why the Imperium is so stupid. They always letting feral ork infestations get out of control and they turn into sector shattering Waaaghs. It's because the Imperium is fighting the forces of chaos, the tyrannids, the necrons, already established ork empires etc which are all worse. quote:The Goblins are civilization destroying menace and everything else running around the world is worse. IIRC the novels imply the world has been destroyed before, but the Gods just recreate it to keep playing the game. quote:We see the guild subsidize payment when the goblin army marches on the cow girls farm. Plenty of higher ranked adventures signed up because the money made the danger worth while. It's not a good setting dude. ------------------------------------------ All that being said: there is a new chapter of Kumika no Mikaku so if you're down for a rom-com with aliens learning about the wonders of earth food it's worth a look. Brought To You By fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Jul 13, 2018 |
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i dunno if i buy the setting of kumika no mikaku. i mean, where's the rape?
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Charlz Guybon posted:We see the guild subsidize payment when the goblin army marches on the cow girls farm.
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Brought To You By posted:All that being said: there is a new chapter of Kumika no Mikaku so if you're down for a rom-com with aliens learning about the wonders of earth food it's worth a look. That sort of reminds me of this series I heard of where fantasy creatures come to modern times, overindulge on the tasty food, and have to learn how to lose weight, and one of those creatures is a skeleton.
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I'm loling at the world-building brought up to justify goblin rape
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Mraagvpeine posted:That sort of reminds me of this series I heard of where fantasy creatures come to modern times, overindulge on the tasty food, and have to learn how to lose weight, and one of those creatures is a skeleton. Elf-san wa Yaserarenai is the name. It also got picked up by Seven Seas for an official english translation under the title Plus-Sized Elf. The series is pretty funny and Dark elf is best girl. 
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Brought To You By posted:Elf-san wa Yaserarenai is the name. It also got picked up by Seven Seas for an official english translation under the title Plus-Sized Elf. The series is pretty funny and Dark elf is best girl. Look at this fool who doesn't realise that Ogre is best girl Anyhow, the latest chapter of Spotted Flower (translated in Italian, not yet in English) is better than the recent chapters, if only because it constantly shits onto not-Madarame for being a terrible person. Just a quick and dirty translation to get the meaning: Page 1: Kuchiki tells Madarame "Ah, you went and did it". Madarame tries to defend himself by saying that Kuchiki's not one to judge, since he's also in a love triangle. Page 2: Kuchiki says "No, you've cheated on your wife who'd just given birth. And besides my situation's different, everyone involved is on the same page and agrees to it." Page 3: Madarame remembers his college days, and says he's got no clue why his wife and her ex split up, but he's happy about it. Page 4: K: "It's probably because she didn't want to marry someone who's that big of an otaku. So you've won, because he's super unhappy..." Page 5: K: "...since he even had to see his ex give birth to your daughter. And besides, you're not thinking about your daughter." Page 6: K: "You should think about her happiness before anything else, shouldn't you?" M: "Yeah, but I fear I just see her as a symbol of my insecurities." K: "Boy, you're really an rear end in a top hat, you know that?" Page 7: M: "But it's fine! Since the person I cheated on my wife with can't have children, I don't have to worry about anything!" K: "You're a triple rear end in a top hat. Why did I ever offer to supply you with an alibi?" Page 8: M: "And further, since I was the one who got hosed up the rear end, it's extra impossible for a child to be born out of wedlock!" K: "...Why don't you just shut up?" Mikl fucked around with this message at 21:39 on Jul 13, 2018 |
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