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Terminal autist
May 17, 2018

by vyelkin

Ague Proof posted:

The last surviving Patriarch. "Misogynist" par excellence. At war. Weapons: Logic, Science, Justice, Anti-feminism, Pro-Meritocracy. B.A. Philosophy

Why did he name himself after a Muslim philosopher?

This guys whole TL is gold how is this guy real

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Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

fool_of_sound posted:

He’s apparently part of a twitter network of Muslim incels.

:piss:

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Terminal autist posted:

This guys whole TL is gold how is this guy real

Honestly this is what I think pretty much any time I visit a statue guy or anime av guy's twitter profile. Just like god drat how are these people so broke brained

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

what kind of weapon is that? is it some kind of machine pistol?

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Terminal autist posted:

This guys whole TL is gold how is this guy real

the new islamic golden age

Pornographic Memory posted:

Honestly this is what I think pretty much any time I visit a statue guy or anime av guy's twitter profile. Just like god drat how are these people so broke brained

the statue guys, usually named something like mentula invicta, are worse than the anime avatars. they're infinitely more smug and egotistical. they are very dumb and ignorant, but are convinced that they're well-read

Ague Proof has issued a correction as of 23:16 on Jul 13, 2018

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 24 days!)

Ague Proof posted:

the statue guys, usually named something like mentula invicta, are worse than the anime avatars. they're infinitely more smug and egotistical. they are very dumb and ignorant, but are convinced that they're well-read

It's the kind of unearned self-regard that comes from being the only guy in the room who's read a book, even if that one book is an esoteric work of trash like an Evola tome. The anime avs are in contrast, proletarian and non-intellectual because all they read are posts.

The absolute zenith of insanity is when the anime guys are also reactionary literature guys.

https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/05/miss-kobayashis-dragon-maid-vs-ethnonationalism/

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's the kind of unearned self-regard that comes from being the only guy in the room who's read a book, even if that one book is an esoteric work of trash like an Evola tome. The anime avs are in contrast, proletarian and non-intellectual because all they read are posts.

heh heh, yeah, shame on those who read posts instead of books *tugs collar*

Phobophilia
Apr 26, 2008

by Hand Knit
its worth remembering that pre911 when bush declared civilizational war on the mohamodeans, middle class conservative muslims were on track to becoming a reliable gop voting bloc

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Phobophilia posted:

its worth remembering that pre911 when bush declared civilizational war on the mohamodeans, middle class conservative muslims were on track to becoming a reliable gop voting bloc

they already had been actually

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

They would have been white by now, probably.

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The absolute zenith of insanity is when the anime guys are also reactionary literature guys.

Speaking of which, pewdiepie told all his subscribers that his favorite author is yukio mishima

codenameFANGIO
May 4, 2012

What are you even booing here?

Phobophilia posted:

its worth remembering that pre911 when bush declared civilizational war on the mohamodeans, middle class conservative muslims were on track to becoming a reliable gop voting bloc

remember when their strategy was gonna be to be more inclusive towards Latinos lmao

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

Phobophilia posted:

its worth remembering that pre911 when bush declared civilizational war on the mohamodeans, middle class conservative muslims were on track to becoming a reliable gop voting bloc
Almost before I knew that I was an American, and almost before I knew that I was a Muslim, I knew that I was a Republican.

temple posted:

what kind of weapon is that? is it some kind of machine pistol?
Long barrel, long stock, so it's obviously a rifle, and specifically an AR-15.

darthbob88 has issued a correction as of 23:57 on Jul 13, 2018

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
i remember polls saying a majority of muslims preferred bernie to clinton and trump

trump was polled at 10-15% vs clinton iirc

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
speaking of polls, that candace owen/charlie kirk poo poo about the democrat plantation didnt last long. trumps back at 12% approval among black voters

i guess people dont appreciate being called slaves

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/RealCandaceO/status/1017060800811487232

speaking of lol

SpaceGoku
Jul 19, 2011


love to racistism

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Hi 24 hour human people,
Hope things are well in garbage people land. I'm only gonna check in from time to time - please msg me if there's anything that needs to be philosophized with a hammer, or tales out of school as to the Nazis being dysfunctional assholes. Glad to see our efforts of stopping the alt right from vaping red fuming nitric acid go well - it could have been nasty in Portland if they partook in it

Just watching the Ken Burns Vietnam war doc. If any of y'all havn't seen it yet, I think it'd be of interest, if only as it was a time, like today, when nearly everyone thought the nation was collapsing and the traditional power structure was unable to cope. Aside from Burns trying to paint the presidents as "conflicted" - while lying out their asses about everything and doing nothing thanks to the sunk costs fallacy, I think most will enjoy it. For those of a slightly paranoid bent, you can also ask yourself "what did the USA learn from Vietnam - both in controlling the media narrative, and controlling mass protest." Paranoia is stock and trade when looking at these things - my old thesis advisor, a man much more intelligent and cooler that me, lived through the era (one time he was stoned and watched original Star Trek with Ken Kesey with Keasy riffing on pretty much every scene with secret meaning while high on acid) and thought that the talk of 'extremists' and 'dangerous anarchists' did a lot to damage the anti-war movement, which started out extraordinarily broad-based, but was eventually taken over by lunatics. I've no idea if this is true, but I suspect the whole era (once you dissolve the plastic glamor of baby boomer nostalgia) might have useful lessons in it. They just started talking about the weathermen, and they sound alt-right-ish.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Nebakenezzer posted:

They just started talking about the weathermen, and they sound alt-right-ish.
that's been my running theory ever since i listened to this interview with mark rudd recalling his experiences.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Nebakenezzer posted:

Hi 24 hour human people,
Hope things are well in garbage people land. I'm only gonna check in from time to time - please msg me if there's anything that needs to be philosophized with a hammer, or tales out of school as to the Nazis being dysfunctional assholes. Glad to see our efforts of stopping the alt right from vaping red fuming nitric acid go well - it could have been nasty in Portland if they partook in it

Just watching the Ken Burns Vietnam war doc. If any of y'all havn't seen it yet, I think it'd be of interest, if only as it was a time, like today, when nearly everyone thought the nation was collapsing and the traditional power structure was unable to cope. Aside from Burns trying to paint the presidents as "conflicted" - while lying out their asses about everything and doing nothing thanks to the sunk costs fallacy, I think most will enjoy it. For those of a slightly paranoid bent, you can also ask yourself "what did the USA learn from Vietnam - both in controlling the media narrative, and controlling mass protest." Paranoia is stock and trade when looking at these things - my old thesis advisor, a man much more intelligent and cooler that me, lived through the era (one time he was stoned and watched original Star Trek with Ken Kesey with Keasy riffing on pretty much every scene with secret meaning while high on acid) and thought that the talk of 'extremists' and 'dangerous anarchists' did a lot to damage the anti-war movement, which started out extraordinarily broad-based, but was eventually taken over by lunatics. I've no idea if this is true, but I suspect the whole era (once you dissolve the plastic glamor of baby boomer nostalgia) might have useful lessons in it. They just started talking about the weathermen, and they sound alt-right-ish.

the weathermen were lefties. the did a bunch of bombs that damaged some buildings but didn't kill anyone saying it was against the war in vietnam. the crazier ones started killing people or trying to and mostly just doing crimes. most of the sane ones were cool and still around.

Edit: i think they were at least. poo poo got really bad in the 1960s.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
mainly that before the revolt of 68 and the campus occupations, there were several years of real organizing work being done but their praxis was all wrong. it was heavily bound up in a politics of "self-expression" where they thought that running down the street waving a viet cong flag would wake up the slumbering masses to their cause.

also think of the yippies and jerry rubin, abbie hoffman et al. kinda like sam hyde.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYiTBcija18&t=188s

then it didn't work and the masses didn't wake up so some of them went "underground" and started building these little bombs which they'd go plant all over the place in these further acts of "expression," doing a fair amount of damage but ultimately getting their own people killed in the process, and failing to wake up the masses like before.

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003

StashAugustine posted:

his twitter handle is a muslim philosopher :psyduck:

there's a strain of thought in contemporary islam that ibn rushd introduced rigorous philosophy to europe. they're not entirely wrong. also they don't typically call him averroes.

linking him to plato is like: lol. lmao.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
also this is pretty interesting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGnkJ7OCrSQ

jerry rubin, when asked if he is a member of the communist party, goes "the communist party is conservative these days!" y'now, we yippies are way more zany and radical and out-there. wow! watch out square america we're really gonna fry your collective brains...

methinks that this stuff was really a response to the collapse of the traditional institutions that existed on the left. i wonder if we're seeing something like that happening on the right today. like, the religious right? kablooey. what are the new institutions being created on the right?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

The Phlegmatist posted:

there's a strain of thought in contemporary islam that ibn rushd introduced rigorous philosophy to europe. they're not entirely wrong. also they don't typically call him averroes.

linking him to plato is like: lol. lmao.

wasn't avorres the guy who was the middleman between aristotle and aquinas


ive seen a bunch of stuff kind of parenthetically pointing out how the counterculture of the 60s/70s was hyperindividualist in opposition to leftist collective action, is there a good article or book summing up those views?

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

methinks that this stuff was really a response to the collapse of the traditional institutions that existed on the left. i wonder if we're seeing something like that happening on the right today. like, the religious right? kablooey. what are the new institutions being created on the right?

alt-right discord servers whomst immediately eat their own

I mean that's pretty much it. it's no real wonder why the alt-right is so frustrated and scared right now, with all their traditional institutions failing them.

StashAugustine posted:

wasn't avorres the guy who was the middleman between aristotle and aquinas

yeah. aquinas complained about averroists despite kinda being one himself. interestingly both ibn rushd and aquinas were considered heretics at some point during their teaching careers.

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

It's the kind of unearned self-regard that comes from being the only guy in the room who's read a book, even if that one book is an esoteric work of trash like an Evola tome. The anime avs are in contrast, proletarian and non-intellectual because all they read are posts.

The absolute zenith of insanity is when the anime guys are also reactionary literature guys.

https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/05/miss-kobayashis-dragon-maid-vs-ethnonationalism/

That is the most retarded essay I have ever read

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's also worth remembering that all anime avatar guys are freaky little mouth-breathing weirdos who know all about why various videogame company girls were fired

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

The Phlegmatist posted:

alt-right discord servers whomst immediately eat their own

I mean that's pretty much it. it's no real wonder why the alt-right is so frustrated and scared right now, with all their traditional institutions failing them.
i think it's a broader problem on the right but also the white nationalist right. i was surprised to learn how well-organized the national alliance was before it collapsed in the last decade.

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
The day reddit started caring about racism

https://www.reddit.com/user/N8theGr8/comments/8xq8sg/5_july_2018_the_day_reddit_starting_caring_about/

basically a (white) moderator of r/NotTheOnion closed a thread about a white person calling the cops on a black person with this comment



and decides to catalogue the resulting poo poo storm as it spreads around the hate subreddits, even voat (where they call for his death)

he stokes the fires a few times over the next few days even suggesting that white redditors get tagged with a jar of mayo so users know when to disregard their post and downvote them and they're so full of rage they can't tell that he's trolling them

they also can't decide if he's black or white, many of the dumber ones can't even fathom how he could possibly be white

Reclines Obesily
Jul 24, 2000



Hey Moona!
Slippery Tilde
basically since racism is fine on reddit the one way you can get that changed is being racist against white people :discourse:

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


gamers are close enough to alt right that im posting this here

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1017881738264170498

The Phlegmatist
Nov 24, 2003

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

i think it's a broader problem on the right but also the white nationalist right. i was surprised to learn how well-organized the national alliance was before it collapsed in the last decade.

you could genuinely see this happen in real-time when the alt-right just kinda ignored the FBI was monitoring them since they assumed that, of course, the state would be on their side. which nobody in the 90s right-wing white militias ever thought at all.

so they don't need to be clandestine or need the fixed power structures (and, also, money) of the national alliance. they just need to tweet frog memes.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Agean90 posted:

gamers are close enough to alt right that im posting this here

https://twitter.com/pcgamer/status/1017881738264170498
lol

https://twitter.com/BucketFuta/status/1017893205646471169?s=19
i also like that ubisoft is just "gently caress you. banned." gamergate = huge success lol

cargo cult
Aug 28, 2008

by Reene

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

this event popped up for mid-august in austin:



seems generated by the same people doing these rallies in the PNW, and some of the key players have traveled there. but then i looked at the list of people "going" and guess who pops up.



that's ken reed and he's bad news.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf4EZ3qDMfg



for one, he's insane. secondly, he's a neo-nazi and one of the leaders of a group called the "aryan renaissance society."



he also led this attempt to co-opt (?) black lives matter with "white lives matter," a brand name for a series of protests including one outside the houston ADL office in october 2016. that protest included james cameron denton, the leader of atomwaffen who attended while masked up and wearing the group's logo on his hat:



here's an SPLC profile of WLM: https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/white-lives-matter

anyways if he's going he's probably bringing a bunch of methed-out middle-aged neo-nazis from southeast texas with him.

--

you can also see how they're already teeing up this aug. 3 brawl in portland. that's already scheduled and a whole bunch of people are traveling there with the express purpose of smashing heads. then these marches in other cities to try and exploit it. it's already planned out.
i feel like portland people are increasingly in over their heads :( its not a city where they can turn out thousands or tens of thousands to counter protest like they managed to in boston

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

does rainbow six even have a non-racist player base

SpaceViking
Sep 2, 2011

Who put the stars in the sky? Coyote will say he did it himself, and it is not a lie.
Surprisingly, yes.

Juul-Whip
Mar 10, 2008



1. Laurier didn't say this. It's a mangled quote from Teddy Roosevelt.
2. We don't call them "founding fathers" the closest analogue is the "fathers of confederation".
3. Laurier was our seventh prime minister. He was not one of the fathers of confederation.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

mainly that before the revolt of 68 and the campus occupations, there were several years of real organizing work being done but their praxis was all wrong. it was heavily bound up in a politics of "self-expression" where they thought that running down the street waving a viet cong flag would wake up the slumbering masses to their cause.

also think of the yippies and jerry rubin, abbie hoffman et al. kinda like sam hyde.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYiTBcija18&t=188s

then it didn't work and the masses didn't wake up so some of them went "underground" and started building these little bombs which they'd go plant all over the place in these further acts of "expression," doing a fair amount of damage but ultimately getting their own people killed in the process, and failing to wake up the masses like before.

Jerry Rubin went from dressing up like an American revolutionary war hero to troll and embarrass the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) to endorsing Reganomics in the 80s

I've always assumed that some people always need a political cause that is idealistic (IE that the solution is perfect, not merely better) and I've always assumed Rubin was one of them

I only know of Abbie Hoffman from "Steal this Movie" but he strikes me as an exception to the really radical hippies in that his heart was in the right place, and he was looking for effective action against something

Interestingly, according to the doc, the North Vietnamese when planning the Tet offensive thought like...Donald Rumsfeld. They assumed a massive attack on all Vietnamese cities and population centers would result in the Vietnamese people themselves joining the revolution, and then greeting the Communists and the Viet Cong as liberators. This act continued by purging anybody who objected to this vision as risky or dangerously optimistic. Sometimes I think the alt-right and the 60's leftists are what happen when your political thinking rejects the system more or less totally, and you then need a story as to how to bring about revolutionary change - revolutionary change that is none the less required for "civilization" to continue. (I say "civilization" as of course how that cashes out could be literally anything from "WHITE RACE HEGEMONY" to "WE THINK OF SEX LIKE THE 1950s" to the Union of the Anarchist-Socialist States of North America [UASSNA]

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

lol

https://twitter.com/BucketFuta/status/1017893205646471169?s=19
i also like that ubisoft is just "gently caress you. banned." gamergate = huge success lol

good on ubisoft. make pretty good games and tell chuds to gently caress off.

also this dipshit talking about axes and poo poo. none of these fucks know anything about anything.

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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Uncle Wemus posted:

does rainbow six even have a non-racist player base

They will now!

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