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Mr. Bad Guy posted:I had typed up the whole context of it, which wasn't meant to be insulting, I just dropped an R instead of saying slow or challenged when talking about my own kid's development (he's not, btw) but at the end of the day, as an instructor and E-6 I should be more aware of the language I use in front of people, which is what I told my class once it was brought to my attention that my cavalier manner of speech likely offended some people. I mean act like you're instructing 5 year olds instead of actual adults, let the fleet worry about the hurt feelings.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:37
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Mr. Nice! posted:I mean they're not really wrong. Like I wish I could have got my nephew in the navy. Instead he's going to be a prison guard. At least 1/3 of that is pretty bullshit.
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maffew buildings posted:UNLIMITED SICK LEAVE, OF WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECIEVE ANY, BECAUSE YOUR FREE MEDICAL CARE IS PROVIDED BY A GED WHO DOESN'T WANT TO DO PAPERWORK SO THEY SAY YOU'RE FINE My free va healthcare is the same poo poo.
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Jul 12, 2018 22:49
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PneumonicBook posted:I mean act like you're instructing 5 year olds instead of actual adults, let the fleet worry about the hurt feelings. The very first complaint I got as an instructor was for "talking down" to them. I've gotten complaints about not explaining things slowly or in-depth enough, too. I've gotten complaints about being "too chummy" and "not approachable". After work I found out that this kid went back to my buddy and said that my apology seemed "backhanded". He didn't think I "meant it". gently caress students, gently caress great lakes. Edit: when I say complaint, I meant they said something to another instructor, who said something to me. I've only ever had one actual real live critique. They said I didn't seem to care about how they did. Mr. Bad Guy fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jul 13, 2018 |
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Jul 13, 2018 00:18
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Mr. Nice! posted:I mean they're not really wrong. Like I wish I could have got my nephew in the navy. Instead he's going to be a prison guard. Several of them are functionally wrong. They don't have layoffs, because they're called something else. There are no taxes on base, there are service fees or whatever instead.
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Jul 13, 2018 00:19
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Stultus Maximus posted:At least 1/3 of that is pretty bullshit. Yeah, that's acting like every civilian job is a minimum wage burger flipping position. Lots of jobs offer health care, more vacation, other benefits, employee discounts that are way better than not paying taxes on rip-off prices at the NEX, etc.
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Jul 13, 2018 00:33
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Yeah, that's acting like every civilian job is a minimum wage burger flipping position. They’re just being realistic about job prospects for the average veteran, man.
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I think you'll find the NEX has Navy values and Navy brands, shipmate. Plus it's on base, you live in housing, right?
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maffew buildings posted:I think you'll find the NEX has Navy values and Navy brands, shipmate. Plus it's on base, you live in housing, right? I never even need to leave base! It has everything I need! Fast Food, Badly fitting clothing, indifferent customer service.
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I remember once at the NEX in Japan, the only game they had, for any system, was Pinball Hall of Fame: The Gottlieb Collection. By that, I don't mean they had like three copies in a corner, they had dozens and dozens of copies filling up the shelves.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:The very first complaint I got as an instructor was for "talking down" to them. I've gotten complaints about not explaining things slowly or in-depth enough, too. I've gotten complaints about being "too chummy" and "not approachable". And none of those would have you even get called into the office if they found their way into a critique. Like yea I get it, boo hoo the kiddos are real snowflakey but it's on the command for tolerating that instead of explaining to them that they're big boys and girls that are in the military now, and guess what? PO2 chuckle gently caress isn't the person that should be explaining that. I instructed for 4 years at Great Lakes and never even came close to getting in trouble, but I guess I'm not a loving retard, retard. The point is it's INCREDIBLY obvious what kind of show you need to put on over there, if you don't want to than you're just making your life more difficult. We had people that threw fits because 'this isn't going to be how it is in the fleet', and they all got crucified.  How's your MTS coming along?
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Jul 13, 2018 03:47
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Thankfully there is no shortage of idiots to replace him
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Jul 13, 2018 03:53
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:The very first complaint I got as an instructor was for "talking down" to them. I've gotten complaints about not explaining things slowly or in-depth enough, too. I've gotten complaints about being "too chummy" and "not approachable". You really have no business being an instructor. I’m sure you do well in your rate on a ship, but you aren’t cut from the right cloth to be a formal instructor. You are kinda retarded, to be totally honest.
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Do they have any openings to be the dude that yells at new recruits getting off the bus talking about the rude awakening they’re in for when they get to the real fleet
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LtCol J. Krusinski posted:You really have no business being an instructor. I’m sure you do well in your rate on a ship, but you aren’t cut from the right cloth to be a formal instructor. You are kinda retarded, to be totally honest. May or may not be true But if that was a requirement he navy would have to purge 80% of their instructors and teaching institutions
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Jul 13, 2018 04:44
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:Do they have any openings to be the dude that yells at new recruits getting off the bus talking about the rude awakening they’re in for when they get to the real fleet You have to be top 10% of the fleet to get that job!
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Jul 13, 2018 05:02
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Where’s my 10%er patch to go on my cut, next to my VETERAN one
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Would disassembling a weapon on watch retard your career?
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there must be ways to explain to your students that ship life is going to be full of things they may not like without going against what i assume is in the black and white instruction
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boy are my arms tired posted:without going against what i assume is in the black and white instruction Segregation has been gone for decades, dude
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Jul 13, 2018 16:23
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I mean even in the fleet, a captain calling people retards or faggots is going to end up on the front page of Navy Times soon enough. Just because MM2 and MM3 say it to each other on the boat without consequences doesn't mean it's acceptable or that there wouldn't be consequences if the wrong person heard them.
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Jul 13, 2018 17:00
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There's no real reason to use that language as human being or retard does not emphasis a point any better. Eliminating that stuff can lead to more effective communication as well since you will have to take active notice of what you are saying and how you say it. Plus you avoid any chance of getting in trouble.
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Not to harp on it again, but you're an instructor Mr. Bad Guy. Your students look up to you as a role model, and just because "they will see it in the fleet anyways" does not make it ok for you do to it around the students. They are still in the training pipeline, they have not been out to the fleet, and if you set a bad example, and are a bad instructor/do not give two shits about your students (the not caring about pass/fail) you will wind up setting up students for failure. They are your relief so that you can leave the Navy and poo poo keeps getting done when you're gone. Don't sabotage that, because eventually if you survive being an instructor, you will go back to the fleet, and you will possibly wind up having one of those students back under you. Do you want one that is well trained or do you want one that is trained poorly?
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Inculcating a culture of professionalism at A-school is doing a great service for your students. That same standard of professionalism does not exist universally in the fleet, and students should be prepared for sailors who aren't at the same level. That said, you want to make sure that they enter the fleet above the standard, not below it, otherwise they could end up in the news like this dipshit: https://www.navytimes.com/news/your...pchat-facebook/
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One of the teachers at my a-school ended up on my boat. Guy was a real shitbag.
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Still can’t believe “liberal” is used as an insult. Don’t we have an officer on the McCain? Stick that fatfuck on bread and water for the max.
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Jul 13, 2018 21:27
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Whatever happened to just using the word "shipmate" to insult each other?
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When I switched over to the NOAA Corps I learned that “shipmate” is a positive or at least neutral term. I’ve done my best to corrupt and use it derisively.
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I guess when you use a word so much it loses its impact shipmate.
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Wonder Free posted:When I switched over to the NOAA Corps I learned that “shipmate” is a positive or at least neutral term. I’ve done my best to corrupt and use it derisively.
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maffew buildings posted:UNLIMITED SICK LEAVE, OF WHICH YOU WILL NOT RECIEVE ANY, BECAUSE YOUR FREE MEDICAL CARE IS PROVIDED BY A GED WHO DOESN'T WANT TO DO PAPERWORK SO THEY SAY YOU'RE FINE And enjoy the fun of proving to the VA that your poo poo got hosed up while in because at no point did the corpsman actually document anything.
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So my sister is apparently considering joining the Navy as a nuclear engineer, does anyone have a link to the thread where it's clearly explained why this is the worst idea imaginable?
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Acebuckeye13 posted:So my sister is apparently considering joining the Navy as a nuclear engineer, does anyone have a link to the thread where it's clearly explained why this is the worst idea imaginable? Buy her an SA account. I talked to GIP before I joined. Was amazingly useful.
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LingcodKilla posted:Buy her an SA account. And yet you still joined; a GiP failure.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:So my sister is apparently considering joining the Navy as a nuclear engineer, does anyone have a link to the thread where it's clearly explained why this is the worst idea imaginable? Becoming a nuke means she has I believe the highest potential chance to kill herself out of any other military career.
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3283345 you'll need archives
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lol @ "nuclear engineer" in the Navy. FYI we don't have any of those. What "engineers" we do have are called that in the olde tyme sense that they work on the engines. The actual engineers work for Bechtel. Does she have a good GPA and a degree in a "hard" engineering discipline like nuclear, mechanical, aero? She can get a much better job outside the military.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:So my sister is apparently considering joining the Navy as a nuclear engineer, does anyone have a link to the thread where it's clearly explained why this is the worst idea imaginable? It's me. The OP of that thread. It's still a bad idea. Also the Navy doesn't have nuclear engineers. The Navy has nuclear techs that get told 18 months of algebra-based A-school/C-school is the same as 4 years at MIT with the ego to go with it. Note: You dont have to have a STEM degree to be a nuke officer. If she ends up doing it, let us know how it goes.
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