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King of Foolians posted:Loras is also known as the Knight of Flowers, and gets referred to as "Knight o' Pansies", "Ser Daisy", and "Renly's little rose" in various books, which is pretty gay. And Loras was like the only guy in the story not into 11-12 year old Sansa. In George's mind, that means he's gay.
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Isn't his face (rumoured to be) melted off in the off-screen siege, now? Or it's a PLOT TWIST double gotcha and he's actually just as fine and fabbo as ever and will come back to the party on a Martin unicorn at some point?
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Jul 14, 2018 18:17
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SaviourX posted:Isn't his face (rumoured to be) melted off in the off-screen siege, now? Or it's a PLOT TWIST double gotcha and he's actually just as fine and fabbo as ever and will come back to the party on a Martin unicorn at some point? Yeah he was supposed to have been hosed up taking Storms End but no POV character has seen him and the theory is that he’s raising an army in Highgarden or some other poo poo to ride in at the last minute or something stupid. This is going off crap I read like 5 years ago or so.
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Jul 14, 2018 18:24
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SaviourX posted:Isn't his face (rumoured to be) melted off in the off-screen siege, now? Or it's a PLOT TWIST double gotcha and he's actually just as fine and fabbo as ever and will come back to the party on a Martin unicorn at some point? Loras got his face craved up by the Sparrows and then blown the gently caress up with everyone else in the Great Sept of Baelor. Whatever happened to Loras in the books is irrelevant because there will never be any more books anyway.
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Jul 14, 2018 18:25
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nine-gear crow posted:Whatever happened to Loras in the books is irrelevant because there will never be any more books anyway. Whoa. HotTakes and DeepFakes
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Jul 14, 2018 18:39
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Thinking back on it, have the books had an overt gay male relationship at all? Lots of graphic straight sex and lesbianism, but gay men? I feel like not, but it could have just escaped me.
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Jul 14, 2018 18:46
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Thinking back on it, have the books had an overt gay male relationship at all? Lots of graphic straight sex and lesbianism, but gay men? I feel like not, but it could have just escaped me. quote:Malory’s knights also possess more libidinal drive. This may seem like an absurd claim, for anyone who has read Martin’s novels will note that there is no lack of sex in them. But one should carefully consider the nature of the most important sexual relationships in the series – prostitution, arranged marriages, incestuous experimentation that never ended, and a pretence between teenagers that becomes real – so that a pattern may be observed: A Song of Ice an Fire presents fantasies of sexual passivity, a reflection of its fantasy of political passivity. Putting aside characters who are preteens or who merely star in prologues or epilogues, no point-of-view figure in the novels is ever shown actively pursuing a romantic partner, and are instead drawn passively into relationships. Almost everyone in Westeros is some sort of bottom, it seems. Could there be any doubt as to why these books are so successful?
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Jul 14, 2018 19:06
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TK-42-1 posted:Yeah he was supposed to have been hosed up taking Storms End but no POV character has seen him and the theory is that he’s raising an army in Highgarden or some other poo poo to ride in at the last minute or something stupid. This is going off crap I read like 5 years ago or so. There's a twist there, but I doubt even Gurm knows yet. When the nuns are escorting Cersei from her cell and she asks for news, one of them starts talking about how Loras is doing -something- and then the head nun cuts her off. Odds are his wounds were just exagerated to get dumb Cersei to tip her hand early.
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Jul 14, 2018 19:15
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Woodpile posted:If Martin is half the writer his taint suckers thinks he is, The American Tolkien would've thought the rainbow guard and their rainbow flag was too obvious. No matter how many tropes he supposedly busts, he is often trite and is far less clever than he thinks he is. I believe Martin thought he was being cute and people wouldn't figure out the gay pride angle for generations. He claims that's not intentional and Renly just likes colors or something quote:The Rainbow Guard isn't meant to symbolize Renly's sexuality. It was more of a culmination of several unrelated things, such as the fact that he'd already used white for the Kingsguard and black for the Night's Watch. A rainbow is seven colors combined together in one object - he compared it to a shamrock being a Irish Catholic symbol of the Holy Trinity, three parts which make up one thing. Plus it has seven colors and is tied to the Seven, plus worshipers of the Seven use prism rainbows in their temples.
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Jul 14, 2018 19:42
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It's supposed to venerate The Seven but the show just called them Kingsguard because no one believed him.
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Jul 14, 2018 19:46
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The rainbow as we know it exists purely because the guy who defined it was a weirdo into numerology and secret societies. There's no reason another culture would craft a rainbow of seven parts or of the same colours we use.
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Jul 15, 2018 00:00
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they might craft a rainbow of seven parts if their religion believed in seven gods
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Jul 15, 2018 00:14
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Have none of you read Foucault’s Pendulum
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Jul 15, 2018 00:30
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Is that the book about the French literary critic’s dong?
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Woodpile posted:If Martin is half the writer his taint suckers thinks he is, The American Tolkien would've thought the rainbow guard and their rainbow flag was too obvious. No matter how many tropes he supposedly busts, he is often trite and is far less clever than he thinks he is. I believe Martin thought he was being cute and people wouldn't figure out the gay pride angle for generations. It was way more clever in 1996 tbh. Some of this stuff hasn't aged well. kcroy fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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Jul 16, 2018 10:55
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Calling someone a new Tolkien is a wonderfully backhanded compliment
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Jul 16, 2018 11:08
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TheBravestOfTheShitposters
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Woodpile posted:TheBravestOfTheShitposters The American Tolkien of being on probation 
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Jul 16, 2018 21:28
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Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and sounded dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention.
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Jul 16, 2018 21:46
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Series finale when?Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and smelled dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention. lmao
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Jul 16, 2018 21:59
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Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and smelled dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention. 
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Jul 16, 2018 22:04
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Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and smelled dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention.
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Jul 16, 2018 22:10
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Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and sounded dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention. 
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Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and sounded dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention.
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Jul 16, 2018 22:34
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Nah. The joke's over now. Let it die man.
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Jul 16, 2018 22:40
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nine-gear crow posted:Nah. The joke's over now. Let it die man. You're well and alive though.
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I'm sorry you feel that way.
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Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and sounded dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention.
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Kuiperdolin posted:Sunset found him lurking in the bad thread, groaning. Every post was worse than the one before, and sounded dumber. By the time the moon came up he was posting old memes. The more he read, the more he posted, but the more he posted, the angrier he grew, and his anger sent him crawling to the bad thread to suck up more attention. Get you a gang tag, stat.
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Wolf Pussy posted:Have none of you read Foucault’s Pendulum Is it good? I really liked The Name of the Rose.
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Elman posted:Is it good? I really liked The Name of the Rose. It is far, far more obtuse and difficult to read than NotR. There's a whole bunch of weird stuff with elderly Jewish scholars banging hot Brazilian babes and also there's an immortal conspiracist and it's actually really lovely and dumb and just read NotR again because that's a much more structurally sound and coherent book. I realize my pithy summation might sound cool and fun, but it is in fact an awful, awful book. It's a wonderful premise, which is why I picked it up at all, but the execution is just dogshit.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:It is far, far more obtuse and difficult to read than NotR. There's a whole bunch of weird stuff with elderly Jewish scholars banging hot Brazilian babes and also there's an immortal conspiracist and it's actually really lovely and dumb and just read NotR again because that's a much more structurally sound and coherent book. I disagree. Foucault's Pendulum is a commentary on Italian mid-century politics and a very useful primer if you want to understand today's garbage people in power in Rome such as Salvini. It is also a very good book.
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Of course you would defend it, you're one of them. Keep your Lord's Kiss away from me, Rosicrucian scum!
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I really enjoyed it, but mostly because the characters reminded me a lot of my grandmother and her friends, which made the whole thing one of the funniest books I've ever read.
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Elman posted:Is it good? I really liked The Name of the Rose. For what it's worth I really enjoyed it, from what I understand it's meant to be a put-down of the conspiracy books and theories that were popular back then, specifically Holy Blood, Holy Grail (on which the Da vinci code was based). If you would enjoy reading The Da Vinci Code, as written by a competent author, I think you'll enjoy it.
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Jul 23, 2018 10:10
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Is the book out yet
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They're all out, yes.
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A_Bug_That_Thinks posted:Is the book out yet no
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Jul 24, 2018 04:34
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The final book in the series was published 7 years and 12 days ago. Why do people keep asking if there's a new one?
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:The final book in the series was published 7 years and 12 days ago. I normally read this in the awful app. i pulled it up on my pc and was just reminded at how glorious your av/text/gang tag combo is
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