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TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Gorn Myson posted:

Matt won the debate lads

He did. I'm still gonna play games too much, but he was and is right.

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TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

Guy Goodbody posted:

Were those characters established earlier in the movie? Was there even like, an anti-gun protest?

No, but right after this they found the literal gay nerds about to piss on the flag, then left, came back dressed as Jules and Vincent from Pulp Fiction and shot them while saying 'great vengeance and furious anger'

It really has to be seen to be believed. This movie is so loving stupid and evil, it really belongs in this timeline

TheBigAristotle
Feb 8, 2007

I'm tired of hearing about money, money, money, money, money.
I just want to play the game, drink Pepsi, wear Reebok.

Grimey Drawer

sexpig by night posted:

from just watching clips and all it seems like no characters but the core team are established at all and it's literally just them running around, kicking doors in, finding libs, and shooting them.

Also they mock the disabled, gays, murder friends and bystanders, then no joke, sing America the Beautiful after they cure the zombie plague.

Gorn Myson
Aug 8, 2007






TheBigAristotle posted:

He did. I'm still gonna play games too much, but he was and is right.
Right? And same. Even listening back to the debate today, I'm finding it hard to disagree with him.

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
Matt is right, but for his crimes he also has to be executed. It's like the end of "Hero."

Paladin
Nov 26, 2004
You lost today, kid. But that doesn't mean you have to like it.


Chexoid posted:

Matt is right, but for his crimes he also has to be exiled. It's like the end of "Fallout."

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Jean-Leon Gerome's Matt Yelling Into His Mic To Shame Gamerkind

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

TheBigAristotle posted:

No, but right after this they found the literal gay nerds about to piss on the flag, then left, came back dressed as Jules and Vincent from Pulp Fiction and shot them while saying 'great vengeance and furious anger'

It really has to be seen to be believed. This movie is so loving stupid and evil, it really belongs in this timeline

wait what? so they miss the message of that movie too. lol



TheBigAristotle posted:

Also they mock the disabled, gays, murder friends and bystanders, then no joke, sing America the Beautiful after they cure the zombie plague.

is it supposed to be "ironic" or is this just what chuds think is funny?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


these people don't understand irony.

they made a zombie movie in 2016.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

SousaphoneColossus posted:

come to think of it, it's probably going through some kind of business/LLC setup with each partner getting a certain salary out of that, so the tax structure for each person is probably totally different than just 1/6 of the total patreon take.

i don't really know jack poo poo about taxes beyond basic self-employment stuff so take my thoughts with a grain of salt

it is absolutely going through an LLC, they announced creating it early on in the show

it's Large Sons LLC, if you were wondering

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/PateraQuetzaI/status/1017817673571315712

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Groovelord Neato posted:

these people don't understand irony.

they made a zombie movie in 2016.

god zombie poo poo is boring as hell. i get why people like it(surface level and subtext way) but its boring as hell. like yeah the walking dead comics are alright as were the games and l4d but thats about it. its always just some hammy "the zombies represent________" type poo poo.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dapper_Swindler posted:

god zombie poo poo is boring as hell. i get why people like it(surface level and subtext way) but its boring as hell. like yeah the walking dead comics are alright as were the games and l4d but thats about it. its always just some hammy "the zombies represent________" type poo poo.

There's a lot of good zombie movies. Train to Busan, Wild Zero, Pontypool, all Resident Evil movies, Rec

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

it's kind of weird that the zombie mania has abated in recent years, to be honest, because so much of it does speak to the paranoid world view of the kind of people who will vote for the first politician that promises to build them a wall to hold back the horde of hungry mouths.

red19fire
May 26, 2010

TomViolence posted:

it's kind of weird that the zombie mania has abated in recent years, to be honest, because so much of it does speak to the paranoid world view of the kind of people who will vote for the first politician that promises to build them a wall to hold back the horde of hungry mouths.

I think Zombie mania ran out of steam mostly because the average person finally realizes that there won’t be any friendly factions or farm collectives. In a collapse there will only be cruel cannibalistic marauders in MAGA hats, probably within a few weeks. Also the mounting evidence that we’re edging towards an ecological disaster makes a Mad Max style apocalypse more likely.

V: that too. While 'zombie preparedness' is twee bullshit, it's good for people to be disaster prepared in general. Also it's kind of unsettling for someone to be armed and willing to execute their friends, neighbors and strangers if some fictional event suddenly makes them 'not human'.

red19fire fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Jul 14, 2018

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
i think it's two or even threefold

1. oversaturation of the market
2. the walking dead languishing in "and then and then and then" story telling
3. interest in other types of genre fiction highlighting the ridiculousness of the peak of zombie mania (lol the talking dead)

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine
It's so sad to see racists coopting Survivalist culture from rural Autists

What happened to producing ration nutrition spreadsheets and improvised caveman weaponry for the love of the game?

Oregon White Nationalists are the scum that give hermetic California forest weirdos a bad name, and they should trigger their own half-assed booby traps

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

red19fire posted:

I think Zombie mania ran out of steam mostly because the average person finally realizes that there won’t be any friendly factions or farm collectives. In a collapse there will only be cruel cannibalistic marauders in MAGA hats, probably within a few weeks. Also the mounting evidence that we’re edging towards an ecological disaster makes a Mad Max style apocalypse more likely.

V: that too. While 'zombie preparedness' is twee bullshit, it's good for people to be disaster prepared in general. Also it's kind of unsettling for someone to be armed and willing to execute their friends, neighbors and strangers if some fictional event suddenly makes them 'not human'.

I took a fema classes as part of my minor. people usually come together when their is big disaster with some shitheads on the side taking advantage, that being said, its also because they know the government or someone big will come and help, in case of most zombie/post apocalyptic stuff, the government is loving gone or weakened to hell and back. there is good zombie stuff its just rare in my opinion.


Phone posted:

i think it's two or even threefold

1. oversaturation of the market
2. the walking dead languishing in "and then and then and then" story telling
3. interest in other types of genre fiction highlighting the ridiculousness of the peak of zombie mania (lol the talking dead)

yeah, the show is loving terrible. i quit watching and then came back for negan and got bored again. the main actor is leaving the show(can't blame him) so now its gonna be even dumber and worse. like at least with game of thrones and westworld, stuff happens and its interesting. i think what killed the show was that they pushed the seasons to be super loving long( i think like 20 episodes) which kills shows like that.

Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 15, 2018

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Analytic Engine posted:

It's so sad to see racists coopting Survivalist culture from rural Autists

What happened to producing ration nutrition spreadsheets and improvised caveman weaponry for the love of the game?

Oregon White Nationalists are the scum that give hermetic California forest weirdos a bad name, and they should trigger their own half-assed booby traps

Hasn't it always been about protecting you and yours from gangs of "others" that will be "flooding out of the cities"?

Analytic Engine
May 18, 2009

not the analytical engine

Nothus posted:

Hasn't it always been about protecting you and yours from gangs of "others" that will be "flooding out of the cities"?

No

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

red19fire posted:

I think Zombie mania ran out of steam mostly because the average person finally realizes that there won’t be any friendly factions or farm collectives. In a collapse there will only be cruel cannibalistic marauders in MAGA hats, probably within a few weeks. Also the mounting evidence that we’re edging towards an ecological disaster makes a Mad Max style apocalypse more likely.

It doesn't make a Mad Max apocalypse more likely. It make a Puerto Rico apocalypse likely. None of the apocalypse stories where society collapses and you get to wander a wasteland will happen. Instead, a disaster or just neglect, will gently caress up where you live, and a bunch of people will die, and it will suck, but the world will keep on turning and nobody will care about you.

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005
The outro music that Amber (the best Chapo) mentioned is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8

It's an Italian production of nonsense English meant to sound like how non-English speakers hear American English.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

Pellisworth posted:

The outro music that Amber (the best Chapo) mentioned is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsmF9m_Nt8

It's an Italian production of nonsense English meant to sound like how non-English speakers hear American English.

My god. I’m amazed that the language thing ever came up, there’s just so many things to address in that video, I’m overwhelmed.

Edit: oh wow the harmonica

Thaddius the Large fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Jul 15, 2018

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Guy Goodbody posted:

There's a lot of good zombie movies. Train to Busan, Wild Zero, Pontypool, all Resident Evil movies, Rec

Train to Bustin'

Apes-Ma
Aug 9, 2011

Your cage isn't getting any bigger.

Thaddius the Large posted:

My god. I’m amazed that the language thing ever came up, there’s just so many things to address in that video, I’m overwhelmed.

Edit: oh wow the harmonica

There's also Freezin' Cold in 89 Twoso, the cockney cover of the song, which is just as indecipherable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wr0QIXaoSY

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Guy Goodbody posted:

It doesn't make a Mad Max apocalypse more likely. It make a Puerto Rico apocalypse likely. None of the apocalypse stories where society collapses and you get to wander a wasteland will happen. Instead, a disaster or just neglect, will gently caress up where you live, and a bunch of people will die, and it will suck, but the world will keep on turning and nobody will care about you.

that was literally the first mad max movie

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

TheBigAristotle posted:

Ok I had to record this and post it because it's just that awful

https://twitter.com/MrPlinkett/status/1017979781370077184

Don't you also wish you had the right to off yourself at a moment's notice?

I read this as the family having had to kill each other in a visceral and violent fashion, which made me feel physically ill because of how horrifying that mental image is.

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

The Muppets On PCP posted:

that was literally the first mad max movie

bullshit, nobody knows what was going on in that movie, you couldn't understand a fuckin word of dialogue.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
there was dialogue in that movie?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


this is why matt is right about games even if for the wrong reason:

https://twitter.com/ByYourLogic/status/1018330367986683904

coathat
May 21, 2007

What?

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


metal gear solid tells its story through incredibly long cutscenes. kojima is very bad at using the medium (and i like how weird the games are). they're practically movies as it is.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

What really pushed the medium of video games was when 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand added a dedicated button to make 50 curse

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Groovelord Neato posted:

metal gear solid tells its story through incredibly long cutscenes. kojima is very bad at using the medium (and i like how weird the games are). they're practically movies as it is.

This is an incredibly stupid take. Metal Gear Solid 2 is built entirely around the fact that as a gamer, you are set on a pre-ordained bath. You have the illusion of freedom, but to advance you simply do as you are told. That's why at the end it's revealed that Raiden's dog tags have the players name on them, and he becomes free when he throws them away and walks out of frame, literally exits the game. It's a story that can only be told as a video game

MGS3 does really interesting stuff with the player and Snake's relationship with Eva. You will note that the primary use of the "see through Snake's eyes" option is to look at Eva. First at her boobs, when she shows up and flashes her boobs to distract Snake and the player from the fact that she didn't know the passcode, and at the end into her eyes once both Snake and the player have become emotionally attached to her. That, by the way, is why people don't complain about the part where you have to carry Eva through the jungle. Gamers always complain about escort missions, and useless AI companions, but you very rarely hear complaints about the part where you have to escort an injured Eva. Because the game has made you like and respect her

MGS4 of course goes back to the themes of MGS2, dealing with characters who have the freedom to take action but are stuck in a narrative they have no control over. It's something that doesn't work in any other medium, because only video games give you the ability to take action.

MGSV is, of course, heavily about the player as the character. Listen to Big Boss's last tape, for fucks sake.

TL,DR: you should be ashamed of yourself for confidently putting forth an opinion that only reveals how little you interacted with the text presented.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


mgsv undermined the entire narrative of the series. (even though the gameplay is quite good).

bioshock could only exist as a game (for the same reason as mgs2) but i wouldn't say it pushed the medium anywhere.

miyazaki's the only one using the medium properly.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jul 15, 2018

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
Bioshock tried to do the same thing as MGS2, but hosed it up by including a pointless moral choice system, and not giving really any thought to the relationship between player and character

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


matt was on struggle session and it was good.

https://twitter.com/strugglesesh/status/1018159157009047552

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band
https://twitter.com/SocMalpractice/status/1018515435397025794

Orb Crabmelt
Jan 16, 2011

Nyorp.
Clapping Larry
Matt's really been making the podcast circuit. Gotta promote that book!

I know Virgil was on that (bad) Balling Out Super show, but have any of the others been guesting anywhere recently?

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long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.

https://twitter.com/SocialistVaultB/status/1018266420969234432

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