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D. Ebdrup posted:Yeah, Kodi uses a private (in the library-sense) version of libsmb which is not only out-dated (in that it only supports SMB1 the way it's used in Kodi), but also completely abandoned by its author. What the gently caress? That's just ripe for exploitation.
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Recently set up a DS1817+ and it was drop dead easy. Before that I had never used any kind of NAS, just drag and drop external drives. Also I'm completely illiterate when it comes to any kind of network stuff so I wasn't even sure how to get files onto the thing at first. Sounds like you're miles ahead of me as far as experience goes so I don't think you'll have any issue whatsoever. I started it with 4x 8TB drives and I've expanded it twice which was super simple, both times with 2x additional 8TB drives. I've got it set up as my plex server which again was super simple. One awesome feature I never knew about was that it has a built in share feature which works awesomely, it just gives you a temporary url and you send that to yourself or a friend or whatever and they can download the file directly from the NAS. I'm sure this is some kind of standard feature or something but I didn't see anyone mentioning it and I've found it to be very useful. Highly recommended in all regards.
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Odette posted:What the gently caress? That's just ripe for exploitation. At least the FreeBSD port has been reconfigured to pull in libsmbclient from net/samba46 (basically the LTS version in the FreeBSD ports tree).
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 I hope I didn't make a mistake.Bought a X8SI6-F for $80 - because it came with the X3450, heatsink and 8GB registered ECC tested working together. I think that's about the same price as those components separately? I'm just worried because it seems like a good deal but the listing was nearly up and nobody else bought it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/123193214900 was the listing, dunno if anyone but me can see it. Should be a healthy upgrade from the Athlon 64x2 that my NAS was running on. Harik fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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Jul 15, 2018 18:48
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I paid a similar price for a non-F version of that exact same setup. It's a solid deal, and the onboard controller flashes to IT firmware no problem.
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IOwnCalculus posted:I paid a similar price for a non-F version of that exact same setup. It's a solid deal, and the onboard controller flashes to IT firmware no problem. What's the SI6 non -F? I only see non-F for SIE and SIA. Definitely want to put more RAM in this puppy so I can offload services from my desktop back to the NAS where they belong. My main reason for buying it is I'm absolutely maxed out on capacity on my current setup. I've got drives hanging off a PCI slot, so I'm actually bandwidth bound. I shuffled it to only have the 10TB backup disk on there, but still. It's a PCI SATA because I need two gig-e ports so there's a dual gig-e sitting in the only PCIe expansion. Upgrades from here: 24gb of RAM. It's got 1600 11-13, theoretically I could run that at 1333-9-11 since the latencies are absolute, not in terms of clocks? That's if I can convince the board to apply custom timings, of course. (11/16*13 = 8.9) high-endurance SSD for cache (PCIe or a 512gb samsung pro sata) More drives now that I have the ports for them. What's the current thread favorite for 8 or 10TB NAS disks? 10 GBE. I'm wired cat-6a, I want to make use of it.
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drat, Current Pending Sector count on one of my 8TB Reds shot up to 8 all of a sudden. That now makes 3 of the 4 from that batch I ordered all at once dead (two DOA, one a little over a year later). Guess I was just unlucky. There any deals on 8TB HDDs around? I'm using 4x8TB with Stablebit Drivepool Duplicating things. edit: Probably just going to grab an 8tb HGST NAS Drive since it's $30 cheaper than the WD Reds MagusDraco fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Jul 15, 2018 |
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Jul 15, 2018 22:23
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Harik posted:What's the SI6 non -F? I only see non-F for SIE and SIA. They OEM'd a version of the board for... I think ReadyNAS? Exact same board but with the IPMI function removed. Mine even came with the USB stick with the NAS OS still stuck in the port. Supermicro acts as the OEM for a lot of other companies.
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IOwnCalculus posted:Supermicro acts as the OEM for a lot of other companies. It’s pretty wild how many they do, they even build the motherboards for the IBM POWER servers.
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Jul 15, 2018 23:17
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priznat posted:It’s pretty wild how many they do, they even build the motherboards for the IBM POWER servers. Before the HPE buying, our Nimble Storage arrays were all SM 3u chassis with dual blades (controllers) in the back.
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I asked for some advice about 5 weeks back. I finally pulled the trigger and ordered my stuff for my server. I decided to go with unraid after watching a lot of tutorials by spaceinvaderone, he pretty much has a video on how to setup everything on unraid a home user would want. In the end I ordered a Ryzen 5 2400G w/16 gigs of ram, along with the other needed components. I did end up ordering an intel quad gigabit nic that I can passthrough a pfSense VM. To start it will have 12TB of space with 1 parity drive and I still have plenty of room to expand with the purchase of one of those 8 port sas cards. Its mostly going to be serving up plex to my house and in a few months to a few friends.
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Moey posted:Before the HPE buying, our Nimble Storage arrays were all SM 3u chassis with dual blades (controllers) in the back. I haven't gotten my hands on a post-HPE Nimble yet, did they actually switch their sourcing already?
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Anyone using BTRFS in RAID1 mode? I think it works something like unraid, in that it picks two disks of the pool to write the data two and balances the unused space. This server is old enough that it's BTRFS on MD RAID5 but what the hell, layering violations are the name of the game for "modern" filesystems, right? E: Re-asking this from earlier: Harik posted:More drives now that I have the ports for them. What's the current thread favorite for 8 or 10TB NAS disks? I'm running 4TB reds right now, but I wouldn't mind moving to 7200 RPM now that my controller and network can handle the throughput. In the big drive space there's the Deskstar NAS, Ultrastar HE10, Toshi X300 and Western digital gold. Well, and seagate but no. I'd prefer not to shuck for 5400 reds, but I will if the price/tb is significant. Harik fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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nerox posted:I asked for some advice about 5 weeks back. I finally pulled the trigger and ordered my stuff for my server. Spaceinvader has great vids. I'm interested to hear how the Ryzen works out, I have my unraid on my old i5-2500K but I'd like to build something lower power-consumption wise at some point.
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Jul 16, 2018 01:31
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100% Dundee posted:Recently set up a DS1817+ and it was drop dead easy. Before that I had never used any kind of NAS, just drag and drop external drives. Also I'm completely illiterate when it comes to any kind of network stuff so I wasn't even sure how to get files onto the thing at first. Excellent, thanks very much. I think I'll pull the trigger on it. Did you upgrade the ram or anything on it?
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Jul 16, 2018 16:41
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I posted about an open source NAS I had ordered and recieved off kickstarter many months ago and someone had expressed that it would have been perfect for them, but the campaign had long since been over. https://shop.kobol.io/ Figured someone might be interested, there's a second campaign going right now with 20 days left. I've been using mine since February with 4x4tb in RAID 10 for my hopefully they fabricate much quicker this time since the first batch ran into a number of delays and problems with parts and design. Ordered June last year, received early February.
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Violator posted:Excellent, thanks very much. I think I'll pull the trigger on it. Did you upgrade the ram or anything on it? I haven't upgraded the RAM yet, I was thinking about it but I'm not exactly sure what aspects that would speed up. I'd say the most intensive thing I do is stream 1080p content via plex to my TV and laptop which works perfectly. What kind of things would speed up with more RAM? Is it worth upgrading with how crazy RAM pricing is atm? Currently at 2GB, should I go straight to 16GB if I was gonna upgrade or would jumping to 8GB be worthwhile? Also does anyone know about link aggregation and should I bother with that either? I don't usually have more than one, maybe 2 devices connected or accessing the NAS at any time so it probably won't matter in my case I'd imagine.
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I bought an 8 bay R720 to expand my lab, and was pleasantly surprised that when I picked it up they gave me the 16-bay version instead. I think I'll throw an LSI HBA in there and connect the extra 8 bays to it, pass the PCI card through to a FreeNAS VM and have an additional backup destination.
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IOwnCalculus posted:I haven't gotten my hands on a post-HPE Nimble yet, did they actually switch their sourcing already? Not too sure, got two expansion shelves last year right after the acquisition and they were still Supermicro.
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Can you critique this build? My budget without the zpool storage is $1000-1500. I already have a 4x6TB ~IronWolfs~ from the prime sale yesterday. I'll plan on running FreeNAS and some debian VMs for random stuff and potentially Plex transcoding. Supermicro X10SDV-4C+-TLN4F-O Intel Xeon D-1518/ DDR4/ SATA3&USB3.0/ V&4GbE/ Mini-ITX Motherboard & CPU Combo $530 Crucial 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4-2133 MT/S (PC4-2133) CL15 dual ranked x4based ECC Registered Server Memory CT2K16G4RFD4213 $430 I'm having trouble with Mini-ITX vs. mATX--I don't really have a size or space constraint, so I'm considering getting a Fractal 804 and mounting the ITX in there. It's screwing me up that that Xeon-D board only seems to come in Mini-ITX. At the same time I am only going to put 4-6 drives in so I could make either that or the Fractal 304 work. Assuming I get the case nailed down, is the recommended PSU? Do the cool kids still install ESXi, install FreeNAS and VMs, and then make a 10Gb switch between them? What boot drive should I get for the hypervisor?
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I've made a pivot away from ESXi as I found it painful to set up on a server build last year. I'm using proxmox and it's fine with the web interface, and supports high availability for free. YMMV. I've also separated storage from my number crunching servers but that that may change in the future.
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Ok, there's a bunch of people here with the X8SI6-F: The gently caress is up with the RAM situation? Apparently intel completely shat the bed that generation because what works/doesn't work is stupidly complicated. Theoretically mine is coming with 8GB of ram tested, except the modules are 4GB 1R - no 1156 works with more than 2gb/rank. I'd like 24 or 32 in there, but not if I have to pay stupid amounts for special low-density multi-rank parts or run at half the memory speed. So, help? What RAM can you actually put in this thing. I'd like to order now so it'll be here at the same time as the board next week.
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Jul 19, 2018 15:49
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I don't want to comment on ram as I hosed up an order at the end of last year for my super micro atom server. Whatever you order make sure it meets the requirements on the specification exactly. I tried using non-ECC memory when the specs said ECC and the bios spat an error.
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I never upgraded mine. The manual claims registered RAM will work but I think it really only wants unbuffered. Either that or I just got the wrong ranking. The RAM I mistakenly bought for it works fine in both my X8DT6 and X9DRW, though 
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priznat posted:Spaceinvader has great vids. I'm interested to hear how the Ryzen works out, I have my unraid on my old i5-2500K but I'd like to build something lower power-consumption wise at some point. I set it up at my office and ran it for a few days to get any kinks out. I moved it to my house and started copying everything over. Been at average 20% load all night and my UPS is reporting the whole system is pulling 36 watts.
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nerox posted:I set it up at my office and ran it for a few days to get any kinks out. I moved it to my house and started copying everything over. Been at average 20% load all night and my UPS is reporting the whole system is pulling 36 watts. Very nice! My i5-2500k is around 90W so that is quite a diff.
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nerox posted:I set it up at my office and ran it for a few days to get any kinks out. I moved it to my house and started copying everything over. Been at average 20% load all night and my UPS is reporting the whole system is pulling 36 watts. That sort of power use is on par with the off the shelf NAS solutions. Looks like the 2400G is pretty sweet for this type of use.
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Devian666 posted:I don't want to comment on ram as I hosed up an order at the end of last year for my super micro atom server. Whatever you order make sure it meets the requirements on the specification exactly. I tried using non-ECC memory when the specs said ECC and the bios spat an error.  IOwnCalculus posted:I never upgraded mine. The manual claims registered RAM will work but I think it really only wants unbuffered. Either that or I just got the wrong ranking. The RAM I mistakenly bought for it works fine in both my X8DT6 and X9DRW, though  Unbuffered ECC "works" but limits you. It really wants registered. You probably got the wrong ranks because intel. Maybe. Or it wanted a newer BIOS.
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Devian666 posted:That sort of power use is on par with the off the shelf NAS solutions. Looks like the 2400G is pretty sweet for this type of use. Yeah, I really wanted to support AMD with this build because I have been impressed by my R7 1700 in my main computer. I ended up going with a B350 motherboard instead of an X370 or 470 just because it saved me about $100-$120. I was going to do R5 2600, which is the same TDP and 2 more cores, but I would've had to buy a video card, which would've also taken up one of my x16 slots, and would've also ended up costing me another $60 in price difference. My mobo only had 2 PCI-E slots that were not 1x (both 16x), one is going to be occupied immediately by a intel i350 server pull, so I wanted the second one for that sas card everyone gets if I expand to more hard drives. I bought more ram than most people would really need and bought a few other premium parts and I think I spent around $700 on the server itself (excluding drives) which is between a 4 port and 8 port synology device pricewise. edit: I am sure it won't be an issue after this initial data dump, but my cache drive is getting up to 124 degrees with all the writes. I had no idea an SSD heats up so much, its the hottest component in the server. nerox fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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Good luck figuring out ECC support levels. It's a loving nightmare, I gave up. EDIT: I guess I should clarify this, because ECC (not lockstepped memory) support can be divided roughly into five levels:
It's basically impossible to find out what levels manefacturers support for AMD, whereas at least with a well-known manefacturer like Supermicro and an Intel CPU, you know what you're getting. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Jul 20, 2018 |
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I would love a 2400G motherboard with ipmi but I don’t think that exists yet. Not a huge deal though. Who makes a good mATX for it? Candidates on pcpartpicker look like gigabyte or asus in the B350..
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100% Dundee posted:Recently set up a DS1817+ and it was drop dead easy. Before that I had never used any kind of NAS, just drag and drop external drives. Also I'm completely illiterate when it comes to any kind of network stuff so I wasn't even sure how to get files onto the thing at first. Does the DS1817+ support Direct Play / Direct Stream? I'm really considering moving my plex server off my desktop PC so I'm not so dependent on it being on at all times and this question has been bugging me.
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Dr. Poz posted:Does the DS1817+ support Direct Play / Direct Stream? I'm really considering moving my plex server off my desktop PC so I'm not so dependent on it being on at all times and this question has been bugging me. Supporting direct play/stream is more of a client question than a server question when it comes to Plex. What you won't get with a Synology is the ability to transcode many streams if your clients don't support direct play/stream.
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Dr. Poz posted:Does the DS1817+ support Direct Play / Direct Stream? I'm really considering moving my plex server off my desktop PC so I'm not so dependent on it being on at all times and this question has been bugging me. Depends on your player, not your server. I direct play everything off my 1817+ on my Shield, Roku Premiere, and desktop.
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I know I sound like a shill or broken record but seriously, if you’re streaming over a LAN and want direct play Infuse is the fuckin way to go.
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While we're on the subject of ECC, can someone tell me which RAM to buy? I'm trying to buy thread favorite X10SDV-TLN4F with the Xeon D-1541 8C/16T. All the SuperMicro recommended memory I can't find for sale, if I go to a memory maker like Crucial they give me a part number CT9036266 that I can't seem to buy anywhere but there. The specs also seem slightly different for CL (15 vs 19). I just want 2x16GB memory modules that will work well in ECC with this board.
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Hed posted:While we're on the subject of ECC, can someone tell me which RAM to buy? I'm trying to buy thread favorite X10SDV-TLN4F with the Xeon D-1541 8C/16T. All the SuperMicro recommended memory I can't find for sale, if I go to a memory maker like Crucial they give me a part number CT9036266 that I can't seem to buy anywhere but there. The specs also seem slightly different for CL (15 vs 19). So buy it from crucial? They guarantee it will work if you use their selector gizmo.
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Yeah good point, I was just trying to avoid some use tax by finding it on another site like Newegg. I ordered everything!
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Is NewEgg still using the nexus argument, or has Wayfair vs South Dakota closed that up already? Been a month since the ruling...
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