More shit that pisses you off: What does that say about the quality of your emails?

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Farking Bastage: Sep 22, 2007; Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

Yeah I've had desktop techs ask me about /24's. I wouldn't look down my nose at users like that, but come on.

# ? Jul 14, 2018 23:37

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 06:54

MC Fruit Stripe: Nov 26, 2002; around and around we go

I think if you have cause to ask me about an IP range, you better understand when I reply 10.1.10.0/24.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 04:05

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

MC Fruit Stripe posted:

I think if you have cause to ask me about an IP range, you better understand when I reply 10.1.10.0/24.

Thats 10.1.10.1 through 10.1.10.24 right?

# ? Jul 15, 2018 04:14

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

Seriously tho can someone explain to me the 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x reserved range? Why is it numbered so oddly?

# ? Jul 15, 2018 04:20

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

RFC2324 posted:

Seriously tho can someone explain to me the 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x reserved range? Why is it numbered so oddly?

The whole 172.x block was barely used besides the private 20 bit range until the late 2000s as IPs ran out. I mean, why stick the smallest network on 192.168.x.x either? Because it's just somewhere you can fit it.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 04:33

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

fishmech posted:

The whole 172.x block was barely used besides the private 20 bit range until the late 2000s as IPs ran out. I mean, why stick the smallest network on 192.168.x.x either? Because it's just somewhere you can fit it.

That's not what i was asking. 192.168 is a /16. The 10.x is a /8. Both start at an obvious point given the size of the address range, even if that start point is arbitrary. The 172.16 is an oddly sized range starting at a point with no obvious logic. Why? Don't these ranges predate cidr?

# ? Jul 15, 2018 04:58

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

RFC2324 posted:

Thats 10.1.10.1 through 10.1.10.24 right?

No, it's 10.1.10.0 through 10.1.10.24. Duh.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 05:18

22 Eargesplitten: Oct 10, 2010

No, 4.2.12.5. What do you think divided by 24 means?

# ? Jul 15, 2018 05:26

Jaded Burnout: Jul 10, 2004

anthonypants posted:

No, it's 10.1.10.0 through 10.1.10.24. Duh.

Um. Idiot. Do the maths. It's 101,100 divided by 24, so the IP is 4.2.12.5

# ? Jul 15, 2018 07:39

tactlessbastard: Feb 4, 2001; Godspeed, post; Fun Shoe

oh hey the red sox won 6-2

# ? Jul 15, 2018 13:25

PBS: Sep 21, 2015

tactlessbastard posted:

oh hey the red sox won 6-2

Oh god, because I read this now I'll start getting the sports updates.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 16:07

Farking Bastage: Sep 22, 2007; Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

Just be glad poo poo's not classful anymore

# ? Jul 15, 2018 17:49

tactlessbastard: Feb 4, 2001; Godspeed, post; Fun Shoe

PBS posted:

Oh god, because I read this now I'll start getting the sports updates.

good news they're playing again today

# ? Jul 15, 2018 17:51

22 Eargesplitten: Oct 10, 2010

Jaded Burnout posted:

Um. Idiot. Do the maths. It's 101,100 divided by 24, so the IP is 4.2.12.5

# ? Jul 15, 2018 18:13

CitizenKain: May 27, 2001; That was Gary Cooper, asshole.; Nap Ghost

nexus6 posted:

Wait, do you mean 28 days or 20 days PTO? Because where I work 28 is pretty standard for new hires.

source: I'm currently looking for a new job and getting offers of 30+ days

20 days of PTO. There are 5 other days that are considered floating holidays where only some of our divisions are closed. So all things considered, 25 days of PTO with some caveats.

I mean yea, compared to Europe its pretty bad, but from what I can tell, its pretty typical of the US.

Years ago I was helping some people at an external auditing company, and one of the people I was supposed to talk to was out on his sabbatical. He gets 4 weeks off from work, then took a week of vacation on either side of it. So he had most of December and January off. According to the admin assistant I was talking too, auditors are required to take a month off every 5 years, not only so people could audit their work, but also just to keep them from burning out.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 18:46

Farking Bastage: Sep 22, 2007; Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

We accumulate a poo poo ton of comp time from being on call/working late/etc in addition to the vacation and sick accruals. I've earned 120 hours of comp in 6 months.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 18:53

Virigoth: Apr 28, 2009; Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......

Farking Bastage posted:

We accumulate a poo poo ton of comp time from being on call/working late/etc in addition to the vacation and sick accruals. I've earned 120 hours of comp in 6 months.

But will you take it all before it expires is the important question.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 19:48

Proteus Jones: Feb 28, 2013

Virigoth posted:

But will you take it all before it expires is the important question.

If not, you let it roll over, or cash it out at the end of the year.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 20:13

Corsair Pool Boy: Dec 17, 2004; College Slice

CitizenKain posted:

20 days of PTO. There are 5 other days that are considered floating holidays where only some of our divisions are closed. So all things considered, 25 days of PTO with some caveats.

I mean yea, compared to Europe its pretty bad, but from what I can tell, its pretty typical of the US.

Years ago I was helping some people at an external auditing company, and one of the people I was supposed to talk to was out on his sabbatical. He gets 4 weeks off from work, then took a week of vacation on either side of it. So he had most of December and January off. According to the admin assistant I was talking too, auditors are required to take a month off every 5 years, not only so people could audit their work, but also just to keep them from burning out.

A week every two months is pretty friggin' good for the US.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 20:49

Actuarial Fables: Jul 29, 2014; Taco Defender

RFC2324 posted:

That's not what i was asking. 192.168 is a /16. The 10.x is a /8. Both start at an obvious point given the size of the address range, even if that start point is arbitrary. The 172.16 is an oddly sized range starting at a point with no obvious logic. Why? Don't these ranges predate cidr?

10.x is a single class A network.
172.16.x is 16 class B networks.
192.168.x is 256 class C networks.

You must keep in mind that class A, class B, and class C networks are defined by the first few bits of the network address.

0.x-127.x are class A networks, as the first bit is a 0
128.x-191.x are class B networks, as the first two bits are 10
192.x-223.x are class C networks, as the first three bits are 110

The 172.16.x range, as was previously stated, was not really being used, but they likely didn't want to reserve too many addresses away from public addressing. Class B networks are large.
192.168.x is, by classful definition, not a class B network.

# ? Jul 15, 2018 21:37

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

Actuarial Fables posted:

10.x is a single class A network.
172.16.x is 16 class B networks.
192.168.x is 256 class C networks.

You must keep in mind that class A, class B, and class C networks are defined by the first few bits of the network address.

0.x-127.x are class A networks, as the first bit is a 0
128.x-191.x are class B networks, as the first two bits are 10
192.x-223.x are class C networks, as the first three bits are 110

The 172.16.x range, as was previously stated, was not really being used, but they likely didn't want to reserve too many addresses away from public addressing. Class B networks are large.
192.168.x is, by classful definition, not a class B network.

and you just completely blew away my understanding of classful networking. :aaaaa:

thanks!

# ? Jul 15, 2018 21:42

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

BaronVonVaderham posted:

If you guys ever fix this Brexit poo poo, I'll be back to "holy gently caress I need to move to the UK..."

Until then, Finland is probably at the top of my list. Might still be better, but unless I get really into the idea of learning the insanity that is Welsh I won't have to learn a new language.

The foreigners talking about Brexit thing makes me laugh. How on earth do you know what what's happening? I live here and I don't know what's happening. Our politicians don't know whats happening.

Give me your source of information, because as far as I know everyone is still on the "poo poo, we're actually doing this?" page. :v:

# ? Jul 16, 2018 09:27

Collateral Damage: Jun 13, 2009

Brexit is basically being in a rowboat and trying to solve the problem of losing your oars by cutting a hole in the hull.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 11:55

spog: Aug 7, 2004; It's your own bloody fault.

Collateral Damage posted:

Brexit is basically being in a rowboat and trying to solve the problem of losing your oars by cutting a hole in the hull.

Brexit is basically being in a rowboat and trying to solve the problem of worrying about pirates on the boating lake by cutting a hole in the hull.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 12:16

Spring Heeled Jack: Feb 25, 2007; If you can read this you can read

Well after weeks of spending time learning about Azure and researching architecture options for moving our webapps there at the direction of my manager, our CIO says the company does not want to put PII data into the cloud at this point.

So I guess his thought is that we would run our MSSQL DBs over a VPN and it would work 100% perfect, which was shot down as a very terrible idea that would not work by our DBAs (no poo poo).

# ? Jul 16, 2018 12:35

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

Wanting to keep PII in house is a extremely uncommon suggestion from C levels though. Usually they treat security like a personal attack on their right to make money.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 14:14

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Why does our marketing director have the worst ideas.

We're now sending out a 'best practices' guide about file sizes etc. She wants to encourage people to use smallpdf.com.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 14:24

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

Was she a forum moderator in the early 2000's?

# ? Jul 16, 2018 14:25

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

I should have the full draft of what they want to send out as a reminder every week by the end of the day. This should be good.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 14:34

Johnny Aztec: Jan 30, 2005; by Hand Knit

Do you know how much magnetic tape storage costs?!?!

# ? Jul 16, 2018 15:04

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Went to the source for more info

Hi Robert, nothing specific right now. File sizes came up in the last leadership meeting and sometimes people send internally and externally very large files which takes up space and can slow down email. Marketing made a PDF for ----- to send to a customer that was 32 MB. In cases like that I use smallpdf.com before sending, or ask marketing to shrink. One of my customers would not appreciate a 32 MB attachment clogging up their inbox. Or sometimes ------ or I will email pictures taken on our phone which can be 3 � 5 MB each.

Legit request. I can imagine that guy sending that file like 6 times getting pissed calling IT bitching about email then sending a nasty email to marketing. He's a dick.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 15:07

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!

Bob Morales posted:

Went to the source for more info

Hi Robert, nothing specific right now. File sizes came up in the last leadership meeting and sometimes people send internally and externally very large files which takes up space and can slow down email. Marketing made a PDF for ----- to send to a customer that was 32 MB. In cases like that I use smallpdf.com before sending, or ask marketing to shrink. One of my customers would not appreciate a 32 MB attachment clogging up their inbox. Or sometimes ------ or I will email pictures taken on our phone which can be 3 – 5 MB each.

Legit request. I can imagine that guy sending that file like 6 times getting pissed calling IT bitching about email then sending a nasty email to marketing. He's a dick.

So the right way to handle this is max attachment sizes for emails, not some random 'best practices' document.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 17:06

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

ConfusedUs posted:

So the right way to handle this is max attachment sizes for emails, not some random 'best practices' document.

I mean...you have to give people the best practices if you're going to give them a max attachment size.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 17:07

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!

Inspector_666 posted:

I mean...you have to give people the best practices if you're going to give them a max attachment size.

You can give them alternatives, sure. But (almost) no one will use the alternatives unless they're enforced.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 17:08

tactlessbastard: Feb 4, 2001; Godspeed, post; Fun Shoe

i have to assume the red sox are off today

# ? Jul 16, 2018 17:15

Inspector_666: Oct 7, 2003; _{benny with the good hair}

tactlessbastard posted:

i have to assume the red sox are off today

All-Star Break, kid.

# ? Jul 16, 2018 17:16

Corsair Pool Boy: Dec 17, 2004; College Slice

tactlessbastard posted:

i have to assume the red sox are off today

Lol

# ? Jul 16, 2018 18:13

Judge Schnoopy: Nov 2, 2005; dont even TRY it, pal

Bob Morales posted:

Went to the source for more info

Hi Robert, nothing specific right now. File sizes came up in the last leadership meeting and sometimes people send internally and externally very large files which takes up space and can slow down email. Marketing made a PDF for ----- to send to a customer that was 32 MB. In cases like that I use smallpdf.com before sending, or ask marketing to shrink. One of my customers would not appreciate a 32 MB attachment clogging up their inbox. Or sometimes ------ or I will email pictures taken on our phone which can be 3 � 5 MB each.

Legit request. I can imagine that guy sending that file like 6 times getting pissed calling IT bitching about email then sending a nasty email to marketing. He's a dick.

'by the way I heard some other company that they don't even send attachments, they just send links. It's based on a website called pointshare, I think it's a windows thing? You do Windows, can we set that up?'

# ? Jul 16, 2018 18:23

Farking Bastage: Sep 22, 2007; Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

Virigoth posted:

But will you take it all before it expires is the important question.

These folks are very nice and pay you out if you accumulate over 80

# ? Jul 16, 2018 18:29

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 06:54

Farking Bastage: Sep 22, 2007; Who dey think gonna beat dem Bengos!

Actuarial Fables posted:

10.x is a single class A network.
172.16.x is 16 class B networks.
192.168.x is 256 class C networks.

You must keep in mind that class A, class B, and class C networks are defined by the first few bits of the network address.

0.x-127.x are class A networks, as the first bit is a 0
128.x-191.x are class B networks, as the first two bits are 10
192.x-223.x are class C networks, as the first three bits are 110

The 172.16.x range, as was previously stated, was not really being used, but they likely didn't want to reserve too many addresses away from public addressing. Class B networks are large.
192.168.x is, by classful definition, not a class B network.

I would need both hands to count the number of times I'd walk into a place in my MSP days where their longtime IT guy had left/retired/committed suicide, and found that the internal subnet is a 192.0.0.0/24

# ? Jul 16, 2018 18:32

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