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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Okay, Primrose's Bewildering Grace is pretty ridiculous early on. I totally didn't expect the highroll effect of a golem rocket punching the entire enemy party for 9999 damage to trigger in a prologue boss fight. Wait until you get a x100 JP and maxxx out your passives.
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Xalidur posted:I was originally planning not to double up any classes so I could get full coverage, but Scholar rules so much that I think I'm going to use both Cyrus (my main) as a Scholar/Cleric and Primrose as a Dancer/Scholar. AoEs for days. Class I won't be using is Apothecary, which feels like the most droppable one since Concoct is exclusive to Alfyn anyways and they don't have a multihit axe skill so basic attacks are the best you can do for Axe armor breaking. Amputation hits incredibly hard and Last Stand is insane especially with everyone's favorite Golden Axe. The Warmaster's axe skill barely hits harder than Last Stand for comparison. Empoison is a reliable source of poison and poison damage is a boss killer since it scales with their max HP. The later bosses get multiple turns in a row so poison gets a lot of ticks. You are going to want Rehabilitate's immunity buff too for some of the later bosses.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:24
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Ethiser posted:Wait until you meet Alfyn's. That the only boss that has killed me and forced me to go find better gear. Honestly, I prefer bosses in this game that have minions with them. They spread some of the damage out so its not so feast or famine with regards to taking and healing damage from one super enemy with multiple turns. I beat Alfyn's before that. He was hard, but blind took a huge chunk out of his damage and incite+guard boost handled the rest. but you cant guard your way through 2x aoes wiping your whole team plus loving Guard Stance locking his weakness to Staff.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:24
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Xalidur posted:I was originally planning not to double up any classes so I could get full coverage, but Scholar rules so much that I think I'm going to use both Cyrus (my main) as a Scholar/Cleric and Primrose as a Dancer/Scholar. AoEs for days. Class I won't be using is Apothecary, which feels like the most droppable one since Concoct is exclusive to Alfyn anyways and they don't have a multihit axe skill so basic attacks are the best you can do for Axe armor breaking. Last Stand is an AoE axe skill. I've used it with the Golden Axe which was extremely clutch early game. I've also gotten to such a high level that I was able to best the man guarding the person that gives you Thieving Tips and Tricks for Grandport. Well worth getting that one because the steal rates suddently went from utterly miserable to guaranteed on absolutely everyone, which is a good thing because Grandport charges you 100000 leaves if you fail five times.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:28
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Nep-Nep posted:I think the thing I like most about this game is that the different path actions make me excited to interact with new NPCs because it's not "just talk to person for random info" but potentially all sorts of different interactions. Beyond that, it makes me feel the obsessive need to interact with every NPC.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:32
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I love it when I find a child who has candy in their inventory, because it means I can steal the candy from them. I don't need the candy. I don't even know how much HP a candy heals, because I've never used any of the candy I've stolen so far. I just want the NPCs not to have it any more.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:33
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Gyoru posted:Amputation hits incredibly hard and Last Stand is insane especially with everyone's favorite Golden Axe. The Warmaster's axe skill barely hits harder than Last Stand for comparison. Empoison is a reliable source of poison and poison damage is a boss killer since it scales with their max HP. The later bosses get multiple turns in a row so poison gets a lot of ticks. You are going to want Rehabilitate's immunity buff too for some of the later bosses. Can you boost Rehabilitate to increase the buff's duration?
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Jul 16, 2018 02:36
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I like all the characters and I love the path action options on quests and the weird synergy of stealing and investigation to get an npc's backstory.Bongo Bill posted:I love it when I find a child who has candy in their inventory, because it means I can steal the candy from them. 
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Jul 16, 2018 02:36
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I was thinking about making Primrose a scholar, because she's got that SP recover and she'd just be a complete fountain of spells. Or maybe alchemist, because then she'd put on some clothes. I have no idea what to multiclass H'aanit into, mostly because she's so drat powerful. If she gets any stronger I think my cart will eject itself from the switch and walk out the front door.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:37
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Xalidur posted:Can you boost Rehabilitate to increase the buff's duration? Yep up to 6 turns at max BP.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:38
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So hey, do H'aanit's summons scale off her own stats, or do they have stats of their own like Ophilia's and Primrose's?
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Jul 16, 2018 02:39
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Kobogartimer posted:The chances seem to bump up every 10 levels, or if you gather information and get the easier stealing one it bumps up once more in that region. It looks like it goes 0%, 3, 8, 15, 65, 80, 100. I don't remember seeing one between 15 and 65. There's a 55% steal chance as well. It seems like it goes up differently for different items, starting at 3% except for the unstealable stuff like the Forbidden gear.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:39
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Cast Bewildering Grace near the end of a boss fight and a monster appeared and healed the boss to full health. This game rules.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:43
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Bongo Bill posted:So hey, do H'aanit's summons scale off her own stats, or do they have stats of their own like Ophilia's and Primrose's? Linde scales with H'aanit's level while the rest are just based on their Strength pips.
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Jul 16, 2018 02:44
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everyone talking about how Bewildering Grace is good but I'm over here getting nothing but blinding mists and "the earth blows up at your feet" lol. Though I did just get my first subclass and saddled Prim with Scholar.
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Jul 16, 2018 03:04
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DLC Inc posted:everyone talking about how Bewildering Grace is good but I'm over here getting nothing but blinding mists and "the earth blows up at your feet" lol. Though I did just get my first subclass and saddled Prim with Scholar. That happened to me for a while (see one of my previous posts) but it's been regressing for me so it's good again. The real fun way to do it is to only use it when you can commit three BP to it so you get four effects at once (this can kill you with the right combination of results).
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Jul 16, 2018 03:09
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IcePhoenix posted:That happened to me for a while (see one of my previous posts) but it's been regressing for me so it's good again. The real fun way to do it is to only use it when you can commit three BP to it so you get four effects at once (this can kill you with the right combination of results). Ooh, for some reason I didn't think about using BP with it. I ended up wasting a lot of SP items abusing that dance fighting a boss.
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Jul 16, 2018 03:11
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I'm sitting here listening to H'aanit giving her "circle of life" sermon after killing the boss of her first chapter, and I like to imagine Primrose, Cyrus and Tressa just sitting off to the side like, "Is...is she talking to us?" "I think so? I mean, there's nobody else here..." "Yeah, but she's not even looking at us, she's staring off into space."
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Jul 16, 2018 03:25
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Random Stranger posted:drat it, Octopath Traveler, adding "-eth", "-est", and "-en" to the ends of words randomly does not make speech "old-timey", it makes it annoying to read and listen to! The mangled grammar for effect was bad before, but I've just hit H'aanit and it's become painful. I think its supposed to be like old timey and Irish brogue, its the only way I can parse the random es at the end of wordes
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Jul 16, 2018 03:46
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Someone on Reddit said that H'aanit's village speaks middle english pretty accurately.
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Jul 16, 2018 03:53
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Iverron posted:Thats not really what I mean although it is irritating. Everyone talks too much to little end. I started mashing through around my 5th character, mostly because the story beats are fairly standard and a lot of the dialogue between npcs is just Text that literally holds no bearing on the story.
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Jul 16, 2018 03:53
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Bean posted:Someone on Reddit said that H'aanit's village speaks middle english pretty accurately. They are not correct
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Jul 16, 2018 04:03
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Finished all the Chapter 1s and naturally my levels are all over the place. Anywhere from 22 to 8. The level 20 grinding zone is right outside Stillsnow. So, uh, better to get to grinding I guess. Need to afford all this good Chapter 2 city gear, but man its expensive.
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i'm not in whatever part of the game that is, but by my understanding middle english would not be readily parsable by most people reading it today.
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Middle English might be at least possible to muddle through, though it'd definitely be hard to read long passages in if you haven't studied it specifically. Chaucer wrote in Middle English, for example, so it's easy to find examples of what it looked like. It's hard to parse for modern English speakers but you can get there if you really try. Now Old English, on the other hand...
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Even if it's accurate it's not that fun to read. 
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This is Middle English: Whan that aprill with his shoures soote The droghte of march hath perced to the roote, And bathed every veyne in swich licour Of which vertu engendred is the flour; Whan zephirus eek with his sweete breeth Inspired hath in every holt and heeth Tendre croppes, and the yonge sonne Hath in the ram his halve cours yronne, And smale foweles maken melodye, That slepen al the nyght with open ye (so priketh hem nature in hir corages); Thanne longen folk to goon on pilgrimages, And palmeres for to seken straunge strondes, To ferne halwes, kowthe in sondry londes; And specially from every shires ende Of engelond to caunterbury they wende, The hooly blisful martir for to seke, That hem hath holpen whan that they were seeke. Bifil that in that seson on a day, In southwerk at the tabard as I lay Redy to wenden on my pilgrymage To caunterbury with ful devout corage, At nyght was come into that hostelrye Wel nyne and twenty in a compaignye, Of sondry folk, by aventure yfalle In felaweshipe, and pilgrimes were they alle, That toward caunterbury wolden ryde. The chambres and the stables weren wyde, And wel we weren esed atte beste. And shortly, whan the sonne was to reste, So hadde I spoken with hem everichon That I was of hir felaweshipe anon, And made forward erly for to ryse, To take oure wey ther as I yow devyse. But nathelees, whil I have tyme and space, Er that I ferther in this tale pace, Me thynketh it acordaunt to resoun To telle yow al the condicioun Of ech of hem, so as it semed me, And whiche they weren, and of what degree, And eek in what array that they were inne; And at a knyght than wol I first bigynne. If that's not enough, have some more: SIȚEN țe sege and țe assaut watz sesed at Troye, țe bor3 brittened and brent to bronde3 and askez, țe tulk țat țe trammes of tresoun țer wro3t Watz tried for his tricherie, țe trewest on erțe: Hit watz Ennias țe athel, and his highe kynde, țat sițen depreced prouinces, and patrounes bicome Welne3e of al țe wele in țe west iles. Fro riche Romulus to Rome ricchis hym swyțe, With gret bobbaunce țat bur3e he biges vpon fyrst, And neuenes hit his aune nome, as hit now hat; Ticius to Tuskan and teldes bigynnes, Langaberde in Lumbardie lyftes vp homes, And fer ouer țe French flod Felix Brutus On mony bonkkes ful brode Bretayn he settez wyth wynne, Where werre and wrake and wonder Bi syțez hatz wont țerinne, And oft boțe blysse and blunder Ful skete hatz skyfted synne.
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Heavy Sigh posted:holy christ therions Chapter 3 boss is a goddamn nightmare. three levels over the listed one and he wiped me in one turn with two horrifically strong aoes. I get the feeling buffs and debuffs are mandatory. Use one of the multiple ways to give/generate extra bp and coat your whole team in offense or defense. Ended up doing Primrose's boss over because she was the first source of elemental attack up I had. "I wonder how much more than the normal 900 damage Cyrus will do? "Oh, that's 2000, twice." It was one of Cyrus' double magic attacks to be clear, but the damage per hit did at least double with her basic buff. I'm currently rushing back to this fire bird in one of the level 20 dungeons that wiped my party earlier with a 1k fire aoe. Hoping I can find some npc to do it for me, but Ophilia has the element defense buff and if I give her Primrose's passive skill, she'll give out an extra turn of duration too. Ophilia has a passive in her base job to increase duration on herself. Oh yeah, another way would be to stack characters with skills that they are weak to. I mean, it's pretty straightforward to do that, but Olberic and H'aanit both have pretty heavy multi attack skills with polearms and bows. Guess it really depends on the boss. Maybe Alfyn's higher end components do even more hits of elemental damage? I feel like there's some flexibility here to make some dedicated breakers.
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What they did was take a few middle english word forms and chuck them into modern english grammar. That's why it sounds particularly dumb. It doesn't really bother me all that much though since at most it will just be present in one eighth of the game.
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Jul 16, 2018 04:13
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The music in Haanits village makes up for it, it sounds straight out of Chrono Trigger.
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I like Cyrus because hes basically Miles Edgeworth and I hope he gets to play detective some more in his story
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I remembered to bring my Switch to work today so I could play all day while it was dead on a Sunday but then the battery died halfway through the day and I forgot to bring it home 
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I had a ridiculous stealing run through Victor's Hollow and got literally all of the good weapons outside of the arena without having to savescum at all. Now Olberic (with hunter sub) spends his time Garrosh Hellscreaming all over people and it's amazing. I've gone with Primorse/Cleric and Alfyn/Scholar as my caster core, and I'm liking how it works. Partly because the dark and light dichotomy on Prim is just cool, and partly because separating healing classes has proved useful a time or two when defensive play has been mandated.
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Regy Rusty posted:I like Cyrus because hes basically Miles Edgeworth and I hope he gets to play detective some more in his story I'm still kind of torn on Alfyn vs. Cyrus as my main character but I think I have to go with Alfyn because I like his voice better and "surprisingly tanky healer with an axe" is a pretty good class to always have around. Cyrus is real cool, though.
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When you scrutinize and get a bonus like "Discount at the inn," I'm assuming that is exclusive to that town?
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Mordiceius posted:When you scrutinize and get a bonus like "Discount at the inn," I'm assuming that is exclusive to that town? Yes. Seems like each town has one of those and one that makes more items be sold at the weapon/armor shop. I've also seen a couple that say it makes it easier for Ophilia to Guide people but I'm not really sure what that means in practice.
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Regy Rusty posted:I've also seen a couple that say it makes it easier for Ophilia to Guide people but I'm not really sure what that means in practice. Lowers the level requirement
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I started out with Cyrus, and he's a real cool dude. I haven't gotten any subjobs yet but he's the undisputed AOE king of my party (him, Tressa, and H'annit) so far. Also, after dealing with a slew of archetypal "genius scholar/mage who is a jerk (even if an amusing one) that everyone puts up with because they're a genius/position of authority" characters in other RPGs, Cyrus is refreshing as a genius who everyone knows is a genius, he himself knows he's a genius, but he never really lords it over anyone, isn't a huge jerk, and genuinely wants to do right by his students and spread knowledge to everyone. Game good.
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Bean posted:Someone on Reddit said that H'aanit's village speaks middle english pretty accurately. They're so wrong I want to beat whoever said that to death with a copy of Canterbury Tales. Here's a basic tell that someone not familiar with even the basics older forms of English can use to see how bad the script is: they're not consistent with their usage. They're not even wrong because they don't keep things the same way from line to line. Regy Rusty posted:What they did was take a few middle english word forms and chuck them into modern english grammar. That's why it sounds particularly dumb. It doesn't really bother me all that much though since at most it will just be present in one eighth of the game. A lot of bad usage shows up everywhere I've been. It just goes from hack writer slipping in an occasional bit bad to something that would make a medieval historian swallow a gun with H'aanit. Regy Rusty posted:Yes. Seems like each town has one of those and one that makes more items be sold at the weapon/armor shop. I've also seen a couple that say it makes it easier for Ophilia to Guide people but I'm not really sure what that means in practice. That means she can recruit above her usual limit in that town.
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Just finished all the chapter 1s. Are the subjob shrines easy to find? Also is there one of those level 15-20ish optional dungeons between like each path between two starting towns?
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