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The point is that the assumption that “you” are a continuous presence in the world isn’t as well founded as one might think. There’s a lot of belief in it but not a lot of evidence for it. It could in fact just be a useful delusion.
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SIGSEGV posted:That's true, but I was talking about going to sleep, your brain doesn't freeze, it does weird poo poo that we don't understand yet, not like we really understand it the rest of the time. Yeah I used sleep because it's easily relatable for most people since everyone has interruptions in their consciousness every day and they don't notice. If you want you can swap out "sleep" for "in a deep coma with no EEG activity" which some people have survived before without somehow becoming a new person. Mostly I was trying to show: eschaton posted:The point is that the assumption that “you” are a continuous presence in the world isn’t as well founded as one might think. There’s a lot of belief in it but not a lot of evidence for it. It could in fact just be a useful delusion.
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That's a point I can accept, I was being kind of stupid because the cryonics people really annoy me with their belief that they don't lose important information with their little trick.
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SIGSEGV posted:That's a point I can accept, I was being kind of stupid because the cryonics people really annoy me with their belief that they don't lose important information with their little trick. Oh yeah nah I fully expect that if we ever figure out how to thaw out someone frozen with modern or near-future cryonics they'd be at best a vegetable no matter how good nanobots or w/e get
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eschaton posted:The point is that the assumption that “you” are a continuous presence in the world isn’t as well founded as one might think. There’s a lot of belief in it but not a lot of evidence for it. It could in fact just be a useful delusion. It is wishful thinking to believe we are anything more than the lightning in our meat.
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https://twitter.com/SimonDeDeo/status/1017626152930807808 Click the link for a brutal thread on AI research in industry, the thing Yudkowsky fears. (SolTerrasa, any opinion on this?)
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Just came up in the alt-right thread: Counter-Currents: Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid vs. Ethnonationalism. Not too long for a "what the gently caress did I just read." And it's kinda comforting to see these guys hate themselves as much as they hate everyone else.
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Jul 14, 2018 09:49
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Someone is very very mad at a show for having a lesbian couple where one is a stay at home wife.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Someone is very very mad at a show for having a lesbian couple where one is a stay at home wife. A show he's apparently seen every episode of, despite hating. It also sure sounds like he personally relates to the big titty dragon ladies a whole bunch which is hilarious
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I also love the single comment:quote:I found your blog cause a screenshot of this post is making the rounds online. Kobayashi’s father is an evil agent of chaos bent on causing havoic and destruction in the realm (possibly Hell) the dragons come from and his sect spends all its time fighting the law and justice dragons like Unicorn Butt Girl, so Kobayashi choosing to become a neutered domesticated lesbian is probably a small step in the right direction, or at least a lesser evil. The feminized neutered gamer dragon also used to be an evil homicidal maniac from the same chaos sect and Kobayashi even makes repeated jokes about hating God and Jesus. I see what you’re getting at but I think it’s a bigger shame Unicorn Butt Girl traded upholding justice and righteousness for being a wageslave than that the actually Satanic dragons traded violence for lust and sloth.
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divabot posted:Just came up in the alt-right thread: Counter-Currents: Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid vs. Ethnonationalism. Not too long for a "what the gently caress did I just read." And it's kinda comforting to see these guys hate themselves as much as they hate everyone else. I saw that on reddit. The title made me think it was generated by a Markov chain.
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It's a good show but it's loving hilarious that anyone is writing a review of it through the lens of their particular ideology. It's a comedy about a lesbian dragon who wants to gently caress a salarywoman. Maybe there are better choices
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Kit Walker posted:It's a good show but it's loving hilarious that anyone is writing a review of it through the lens of their particular ideology. It's a comedy about a lesbian dragon who wants to gently caress a salarywoman. Maybe there are better choices ‘Lesbian dragons are good’ is an intensely ideological statement.
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Kit Walker posted:Maybe there are better choices Some people aren’t about good choices, you know?
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Darth Walrus posted:‘Lesbian dragons are good’ is an intensely ideological statement. Yeah but you don't see me writing 5000 words about it
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Darth Walrus posted:Incidentally, one of the more recent updates for Warframe allowed you to seek employment from Roko’s Basilisk as a torturer in its simulated hell, because that game gets the appeal of freaky technosorcerous transhumanism.
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divabot posted:Just came up in the alt-right thread: Counter-Currents: Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid vs. Ethnonationalism. Not too long for a "what the gently caress did I just read." And it's kinda comforting to see these guys hate themselves as much as they hate everyone else. Gotta admit to a chuckle at, "Like Syrian refugees with huge tits and Kawaii outfits,"
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and I literally only just realised that Buttercup Dew was My Nationalist Pony guy
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divabot posted:and I literally only just realised that Buttercup Dew was My Nationalist Pony guy go on
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divabot posted:Just came up in the alt-right thread: Counter-Currents: Miss Kobayashi’s Dragon Maid vs. Ethnonationalism. Not too long for a "what the gently caress did I just read." And it's kinda comforting to see these guys hate themselves as much as they hate everyone else. It's amusing because he actually grasps the show's themes, more or less; he's just infuriated by them because he can't accept that immigrants might be good. His review of Shinsekai Yori is more point-missing, though: https://www.counter-currents.com/2017/06/shinsekai-yori-and-the-impossibility-of-coexistence/
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I just read that dreck, and now I'm starting to miss Mencius Moldbug.
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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:I just read that dreck, and now I'm starting to miss Mencius Moldbug. "Reviewing anime for a White Nationalist site can be hard, for the want of good subject matter." ya don't say
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There are actually a lot of nationalist and right wing anime. They're all just very bad and usually unpopular. So no one cares about them.
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Terrible Opinions posted:There are actually a lot of nationalist and right wing anime. They're all just very bad and usually unpopular. So no one cares about them. Stuff like Attack on Titan has the weird military fetishism present but all the nationalism I know is like, the one where they go back in time to WW2 and whoops Japan still has to lose but oh god the brave soldiers or whatever
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Cavelcade posted:go on They were a favorite of the brony mock thread back in the day. They ran a blog where they insisted that the lessons MLP was trying to teach little girls was that racial purity and fascism were cool and great, and claimed that they didn't really know anything about nationalism until MLP "convinced" them of it and taught them how great it is.
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Terrible Opinions posted:There are actually a lot of nationalist and right wing anime. They're all just very bad and usually unpopular. So no one cares about them. Like that one where military hardware is anthropomorphized as schoolgirls. No the other one. No not that one either, that one.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is there a lot of non-Japanese nationalism present in anime? ate all the Oreos posted:Like that one where military hardware is anthropomorphized as schoolgirls. No the other one. No not that one either, that one.
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ate all the Oreos posted:Like that one where military hardware is anthropomorphized as schoolgirls. No the other one. No not that one either, that one.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Is there a lot of non-Japanese nationalism present in anime? The recently-concluded Darling in the FranXX may technically count. It’s a story where evil aliens have tricked humanity into entering a nightmarish, vaguely capitalist dystopia and declaring war on its own planet, and the only way to stop them is to reconnect with our ancestors, re-learn traditional heterosexual romance and build a nice, traditional agrarian society.
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Darling in the Franxx really counts, but I avoiding naming names because anime fans even here are pretty terrible about protecting their objects of consumption. It looked at all the Protocols of Ziony stuff in EVA and decided "I could use some more of that" what with the evil council of alien monsters tricking humans into becoming evil queers which destroys the planet.
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There's plenty of reactionary poo poo in anime, but somewhat less openly ethnonationalist poo poo. E: although of course it's harder to recognize the exact structures of racism in cultures you're less embedded in, so maybe it just seems that way to me because I can't recognize it. Doc Hawkins has a new favorite as of 02:42 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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I mean, Darling in the Franxx is about a dystopian future where a handful of people rule over absolutely everyone and society at large basically does nothing at all because they’re immortal and willingly isolating themselves. The protagonists are a bunch of teens who are taught next to nothing about sex or adulthood and are used to fight creatures that interfere with humanity harvesting a source of near-infinite energy that both sustains the remnants of humanity and has caused virtually the entire planet to die Oh yeah, and half of the fascistic council that rules over everything turn out to be aliens from another dimension. It’s not exactly a great show (and the show’s gender politics are just bad) but I don’t really see how it’s nationalist
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Also when you pilot the giant robots you do it by mounting a lady doggy style and using some handlebars attached to her back. I feel like we're kinda glossing over this very important piece of information.
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Kit Walker posted:I mean, Darling in the Franxx is about a dystopian future where a handful of people rule over absolutely everyone and society at large basically does nothing at all because they’re immortal and willingly isolating themselves. The protagonists are a bunch of teens who are taught next to nothing about sex or adulthood and are used to fight creatures that interfere with humanity harvesting a source of near-infinite energy that both sustains the remnants of humanity and has caused virtually the entire planet to die Try reading this paragraph back to yourself, maybe? Or are you not familiar with aliens as an allegory for foreigners in sci-fi?
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divabot posted:https://twitter.com/SimonDeDeo/status/1017626152930807808 Oh, drat, that thread is full of completely fair burns on the Google folks. I mean, I'm a symbolic reasoning AI guy at heart. I am extremely inclined to agree with this guy. Choosing layer sizes is bullshit. It's not advancing the field, it's just solving a single problem you have in front of you. It's part of a pattern I've seen in AI research. It's pushing the grad student grunt work around the system like it's peas on a child's dinner plate. In an MDP it's the value function weights. In a neural net it's finding the right layer sizes and architecture. In random forests it's about choosing the right sizes for your trees. There's always some metaparameter that requires a human going in and poking it and poking it and poking it until you get the results you want. My thesis had that, and the Google stuff I've worked on has had a poo poo-ton of that. Obviously none of those choices of metaparameter is going to make a god. The next ai winter can't come soon enough. SolTerrasa has a new favorite as of 09:22 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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What is it callled? Please, I must know.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:What is it callled? Please, I must know. Might be thinking of Kantai Collection there, although IIRC, the odd Allied warship has started to show up on the good guys’ side.
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