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im on the net me boys posted:Got mail today notifying me that to vote in the primary election for Washington in August that I need to update my voter registration by July 9th. lol Working as intended.
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State Rep candidate Ramos came to my house yesterday, he was canvassing door to door.
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BrandorKP posted:State Rep candidate Ramos came to my house yesterday, he was canvassing door to door.
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Jul 13, 2018 06:23
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anthonypants posted:Did you call 911? I asked him why I only see Republicans at the parades and events in town. I'm sick of seeing Chad "More Freedom" Magendaz, or whatever the hell his name is. The last state Senate election here had a margin of like 100-ish votes and flipped D and my household moving out here wasn't 2.
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They made a huge loving mistake running Dino. Nobody gives a poo poo about the the D candidates, they're all varying degrees of Issaquah blah.
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Jul 13, 2018 06:55
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how does Rossi keep convincing people that no really this time he'll win
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cheetah7071 posted:how does Rossi keep convincing people that no really this time he'll win
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Dino Rossi has now lost something like 5 elections in a row, but it isn't like the Washington Republican bench is deep. Other than Eastern Washington nut jobs who would get zero votes on the West side of the mountains, all they have is boring business men. And a fun fact: Dino Rossi last won an election in 2000. Yes, 18 years ago.
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perhaps they should stop letting Dino Rossi pick their candidate
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:perhaps they should stop letting Dino Rossi pick their candidate Nah, it is fun watching him lose.
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Dino Rossi has the best career arc. Loses the governor election by the slimmest of margins after a couple recounts. Then loses by a bigger margib. Then runs for Senate and gets his rear end kicked. Now he's going even smaller and will probably lose. I wonder if he's gonna run for some city council after this and lose that too.
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seiferguy posted:Dino Rossi has the best career arc. Loses the governor election by the slimmest of margins after a couple recounts. Then loses by a bigger margib. Then runs for Senate and gets his rear end kicked. Now he's going even smaller and will probably lose. I wonder if he's gonna run for some city council after this and lose that too. He's gonna move and go for Kshamas spot
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anthonypants posted:Maybe people think it stands for Democrat In Name Only RINOs and DINOs and WINOs, oh my!
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He claims that 18 months into a 60-84 month promise to deliver 1,300 affordable homes they have delivered half. But then when pressed for specifics he says "WHEELER: Delivered or in the pipeline." Anyone familiar with pipelines knows you can put a million farts in a pipeline and say you hit your pipeline quota but if they don't progress on-schedule it's meaningless. Also not happy with the way he positioned it entirely as a national problem so not his job to solve. Also gently caress that guy.
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porkface posted:He claims that 18 months into a 60-84 month promise to deliver 1,300 affordable homes they have delivered half. But then when pressed for specifics he says "WHEELER: Delivered or in the pipeline." Every mayor Portland has had for like... what close to 2 decades now? has been a bumbling oaf at best. To be fair, I can think of few jobs I'd want less than mayor of Portland as this city has a lot of very pressing issues, none of which have easy solutions, but we are certainly not getting anyone remotely qualified to deal with the problems we have.
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porkface posted:He claims that 18 months into a 60-84 month promise to deliver 1,300 affordable homes they have delivered half. But then when pressed for specifics he says "WHEELER: Delivered or in the pipeline."
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anthonypants posted:Also he says they're totally bringing an MLB team to Portland https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/07/b3fae2e5358258/major-league-baseball-to-portl.html Canzano is going to be walking around the Oregonian offices with an Anchorman-style erection for the foreseeable future.
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inkblot posted:Every mayor Portland has had for like... what close to 2 decades now? has been a bumbling oaf at best. To be fair, I can think of few jobs I'd want less than mayor of Portland as this city has a lot of very pressing issues, none of which have easy solutions, but we are certainly not getting anyone remotely qualified to deal with the problems we have. The last two mayors have been particularly bad, I mean they are essentially middle of the Rockefeller Republicans that gaslit much of the public in thinking that they were progressives. their policy has pretty much been small government and no restriction to development and the results aren't surprising. Adams wasn't that great either and was pretty much a placeholder. Honestly, I just anything getting better at this point. One big issue Portland has compared to other cities, its infrastructure really isn't that of a major metropolis. This includes its schools, roads, and public transportation. The MAX is fine in concept but really isn't designed to move the people it needs to, the streetcar was mostly just to boost property values and bus service in all honestly sucks. The roads are likewise ridiculous and clearly not designed for the load it is taking (the road network south of downtown may literally be the worst designed mess I have seen period). I don't think anything needs said about PPS that hasn't been said, it is a trash fire. That isn't touching the issue of housing. Portland is a good place to spent your 20s into your early 30s as sort of a rest stop on the road of life, but yeah the city has serious and maybe unsolvable issues. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 14:32 on Jul 14, 2018 |
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anthonypants posted:Also he says they're totally bringing an MLB team to Portland https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/sports/erry-2018/07/b3fae2e5358258/major-league-baseball-to-portl.html Just need to consolidate a few potential homeless shelters to make room for the stadium! Ardennes posted:unsolvable issues.
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porkface posted:Have you considered running for mayor with that attitude? Granted, they don't even pretend to make an attempt.
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As mayor I promise to bring the Velveteria back to Portland!
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wyoming posted:As mayor I promise to bring the Velveteria back to Portland! Get them to do a joint venture combining their talents with Fat Cobra and I’m in
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LOL Dino Rossi is running in my hometown district and the only people running against him all kinda succ. Probably gonna vote for the candidate from Auburn (Slaughter Solidarity)
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Ardennes posted:The last two mayors have been particularly bad, I mean they are essentially middle of the Rockefeller Republicans that gaslit much of the public in thinking that they were progressives. their policy has pretty much been small government and no restriction to development and the results aren't surprising. Adams wasn't that great either and was pretty much a placeholder. Are there other examples of cities that essentially choked themselves to death that we can look to for insight as to what lies ahead for Portland? i.e. if the city has "serious and maybe unsolvable issues" (or, perhaps more to the point, issues the electorate are unwilling to solve), will we reach a tipping point where we see a sudden exodus from the city/region?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:issues the electorate are unwilling to solve)
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Cicero posted:This is what it looks like to me. Like if it's just one or two administrations, you can potentially chalk it up to incompetence, but several in a row sounds more like the electorate wants to have its cake and eat it too (e.g. "we want these huge transit/bike improvements everywhere yesterday but also no more taxes and you can't take away any space from cars").
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Are there other examples of cities that essentially choked themselves to death that we can look to for insight as to what lies ahead for Portland? Yeah, unsolvable in the sense that Oregonians literally don't want to spend money and if anything the state is pretty fundamentally libertarian. It might have semi-acceptable when Portland was a medium-sized city in a state reliant on agriculture and timbering but not for the direction it is going which if anything seems to be increasing density. It isn't that there haven't been improvements either, but that if anything pretty much all the low-hanging fruit has been plucked. Most of the MAX lines are on existing ROWs near freeways and railyards, but there is no the question of how to actually move people in the rest of the city considering the state of roads/highways. If anything the current toll plan shows how screwed the situation is since tolling is basically being introduced for relatively small-scale improvements on existing highways with little other investment. I don't think Portland is going to explode...but it is just going to be a more miserable place to live and Californians and immigrants will be largely blamed for it. It doesn't help the cost of living has risen with housing prices which honestly has added even more tension. One reason people drink (or whatever) in Portland is that it is actually pretty stressful to make any serious ground there...unless you want to rent out a room forever with zero savings and float through life until you can't afford your own medical bills. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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If anybody in the thread actually wants to help improve the city of Portland there are some lovely people on the front lines protesting ICE at 4310 SW Macadam AVE who could use some meals, water, Gatorade, and a whole bunch of other supplies to keep up the fight during this nasty heat.
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, unsolvable in the sense that Oregonians literally don't want to spend money and if anything the state is pretty fundamentally libertarian. It might have semi-acceptable when Portland was a medium-sized city in a state reliant on agriculture and timbering but not for the direction it is going which if anything seems to be increasing density. It isn't that there haven't been improvements either, but that if anything pretty much all the low-hanging fruit has been plucked. Most of the MAX lines are on existing ROWs near freeways and railyards, but there is no the question of how to actually move people in the rest of the city considering the state of roads/highways. If anything the current toll plan shows how screwed the situation is since tolling is basically being introduced for relatively small-scale improvements on existing highways with little other investment. It's a weird kind of libertarianism though, because normally under a libertarian mindset you wouldn't expect to see land-use There's definitely a tight-fisted element to it (thanks to anti-tax shitheads like Bill Sizemore) but I suspect at heart is more of a stubborn resistance to change. Going for higher density means eventually you have to start tearing old stuff down and building new. I'm not sure how you could essentially sell the city on basically rebuilding itself, because even if you promise a massive expansion of housing and transit, I think people are going to suspect all that new housing is going to be out of their price range or otherwise not benefit them. Is there a city that's accomplished such changes, without pricing a lot of existing people out of the city, that we can look to for inspiration? quote:I don't think Portland is going to explode...but it is just going to be a more miserable place to live and Californians and immigrants will be largely blamed for it. It doesn't help the cost of living has risen with housing prices which honestly has added even more tension. Yeah, unfortunately cities like Vancouver BC and San Francisco show that there's apparently no limit to how high housing costs can go up. 
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It's a weird kind of libertarianism though, because normally under a libertarian mindset you wouldn't expect to see land-use Funny you mention the UGB, because I feel like the way housing costs are going, the Pave-the-Tualatin-Valley plan is going to seem more and more desirable to folks There's a lot of prime land out there that could be suburban sprawl instead of farms
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It's a weird kind of libertarianism though, because normally under a libertarian mindset you wouldn't expect to see land-use I do think there is a bit more of a respect for nature (but lets not go too far...) in Oregon as well as a tendency towards nostalgia. So you have things policy like the urban growth boundary (which is reasonable on its basic premise), but not the serious type of spending that such a policy is going to require over decades. Admittedly, just adding some more suburbs may slow housing prices a bit but it is going not help the other issue the metro area is facing if not will exacerbate them. Portland freeways really can't take on another mass expansion of exburbs. Honestly, the only real fix would probably be the development of denser public housing on the scale approaching closer to Singapore (maybe not as extreme but that is the idea). The current system of handfuls of affordable units in new complexes obviously isn't cutting it. Portland was a in some ways a city that got pulled into the future despite itself and honestly I am skeptical there is the forethought of how to handle what is yet to come.
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Ardennes posted:I do think there is a bit more of a respect for nature (but lets not go too far...) in Oregon as well as a tendency towards nostalgia. So you have things policy like the urban growth boundary (which is reasonable on its basic premise), but not the serious type of spending that such a policy is going to require over decades. Yeah I should clarify that I don't think getting rid of the UGB is a good or desirable or helpful thing. I just think that it's going to be a casualty of the way things are going. There's plenty of land developers and land owners that are probably salivating at how much they can make off of all that farmland and sooner or later they're going to start to beat on the "build build build" propaganda machine and housing costs are going to be a great talking point.
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xrunner posted:Yeah I should clarify that I don't think getting rid of the UGB is a good or desirable or helpful thing. I just think that it's going to be a casualty of the way things are going. There's plenty of land developers and land owners that are probably salivating at how much they can make off of all that farmland and sooner or later they're going to start to beat on the "build build build" propaganda machine and housing costs are going to be a great talking point. I could see them simply just expanding the boundary rather than scraping it but as far as Washington County goes...those roads are already clogged. It maybe won't stop them, but it is pretty much just going to result in dropping cars into a traffic jam because there is simply no other easy route to get to the rest of the city. (84 and the 5 are at capacity, and the 217 is a joke) It really isn't any better in the rest of the region (maybe they will resurrect the Mt.Hood freeway from the grave...).
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It's funny how I read it as being carefully crafted to NOT throw them under the bus. What a bunch of babies.
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Yeah, I'm already noticing congestion starting to happen between Forest Grove and highway 26. That's cropped up in just the last couple of years.Ardennes posted:I do think there is a bit more of a respect for nature (but lets not go too far...) in Oregon as well as a tendency towards nostalgia. Not only is there not the forethought of how to handle further growth, I don't think there's the will to plan for it.
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