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Endorph posted:nobody said that Now that I'm more awake you're probably right, sorry for misinterpreting the tone of a couple of the posts.
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Space Flower posted:that's the rub of it, to me. like, why do we use this super presumptuous word that assumes we were present for the creation of a work? especially in anime compared to manga, there are tons of perspectives and angles at play. and honestly "we're gonna do this for the fans" seems so good and pure to me when a creator just outright says it. everyone calls Bebe's appearance in madomagi rebellion fanservice when it wasn't some magically corporate decision. Shinbo says it was in the initial script when they received it, and Urobuchi just goes, "yeah i saw all this fanart of them together and I thought it was cute!" Bebe has a very tangible narrative role in how she plays the red herring when Homura is searching for the culprit, as well as explaining why Mami is so composed and strong (you could say she really has her head on her shoulders) in the new world: she's not torn apart by loneliness and the loss of her family, she has someone to protect and live for. Rebellion is also kind of a weird case in general, since it deliberately lays on some of the fanservice elements a little too heavily as a signal to the audience that something isn't quite right.
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Waci posted:Now that I'm more awake you're probably right, sorry for misinterpreting the tone of a couple of the posts.
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Endorph posted:No worries. Nobody was really accusing you of anything I feel like, I said I didn't get what you mean but I just meant it can be hard to define what people mean by 'fanservice' sometimes, and then there was a conversation about the kinda vagueries of the term, tone, and why some things have elements that can be read as fanservice. No harm no foul. Oh I meant I thought some people sounded like they were saying fanservice is inherently bad, not that someone was accusing me of anything. Sorry, turns out I'm even worse at posting than at reading
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# ? Jul 16, 2018 23:10 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the thing about fanservice is that you don't mind it so much when you are the fan being serviced basically it's still a novelty to me to get some sort of fanservice that is like laser-targeted at things I like but that is happening more and more recently and is very good
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Everything Burrito posted:basically *nodding sagely* it's good when the guys don't take boxer briefs off all the way, but instead leave them scrunched up around their thighs.
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# ? Jul 16, 2018 23:34 |
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When will there be an anime about sexy HVAC maintenance, for true fan service?
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# ? Jul 16, 2018 23:39 |
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Nobunaga Ninja continues apace and is still cute and full of real pathos and silly jokes in good measure. I'm sad it being so short and based on actual history means there isnt much to say about it, but I am content that it exists at all. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Jul 16, 2018 |
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Jada is the best https://files.catbox.moe/uxg15l.webm
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# ? Jul 16, 2018 23:54 |
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Expect My Mom posted:haikyuu's never had a beach episode the manga had a beach volleyball crossover with nisekoi
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 00:02 |
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Yama No Susume still very pretty, still excellent de-stress anime, still slightly difficult to talk about beyond that.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Yama No Susume still very pretty, still excellent de-stress anime, still slightly difficult to talk about beyond that. Wazzat
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Sharkopath posted:Wazzat Encouragement Of Climb Very pretty short series about Cute Girls Doing Mountain Hiking Things. See Also: Yurucamp
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chumbler posted:When will there be an anime about sexy HVAC maintenance, for true fan service? oh god trap so loving sprung, but this manga definitely exists
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 01:03 |
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Spiritus Nox posted:Yama No Susume still very pretty, still excellent de-stress anime, still slightly difficult to talk about beyond that. I think Aoi and Hinata should get gay married
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Sharkopath posted:Wazzat climbing anime, first season is a series of six minute eps and s2 and 3 are 12 minutes. the production on the series is very well-regarded, staff get to put a lot of personality into individual episodes so along with the show generally looking really pretty you get a handful of very stand-out episodes where the talents and creative choices of the animators and directors involved is very visible. s1 is more of a chill out thing but s2 shifts into a neat arc about the main character getting sick while climbing mt fuji, rest of the season is her friends trying to help her deal with her frustration and the anxiety she's gotten from the experience and remember why she loved climbing in the first place. it's one of my favorite more recent anime s3 is only three eps in but the second ep was key animated entirely by one person and it has a very neat look to it The Colonel fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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StandardVC10 posted:I think Aoi and Hinata should get gay married
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also s2 of yama no susume has an op from the guy who did the openings for welcome to the nhk and occultic;nine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTeLGxA1rrU
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 01:50 |
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i did watch half of yama no susume s2 while eating pizza so that might have contributed to me liking it so much. but hell. it's a good pizza anime
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 02:07 |
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https://twitter.com/andrearitsu/status/1018943007922507776 good thread on starlight revue for people who dont know anything about takarazuka.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 04:29 |
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praying @ god that some twitter weirdos stop acting like ikuhara invented the takarazuka revue in 1997, lol
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 04:37 |
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Endorph posted:praying @ god that some twitter weirdos stop acting like ikuhara invented the takarazuka revue in 1997, lol It's so very wrong but it's still somewhat better than thinking Madoka invented the dark twist in Magical Girl anime I guess...maybe not Rest in Peace Minky Momo
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 04:38 |
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Endorph posted:praying @ god that some twitter weirdos stop acting like ikuhara invented the takarazuka revue in 1997, lol
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AnacondaHL posted:oh god trap so loving sprung, but this manga definitely exists If there's reborn as a vending machine isekai, there's sexy HVAC maintenance.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 12:51 |
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Expect My Mom posted:did u know ikuhara invented giving lesbians weapons
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 12:55 |
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new yami shibai, new catchy ed https://files.catbox.moe/084wfn.webm first ep was quite pretty too
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 12:59 |
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Edit: wrong thread
Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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Endorph posted:praying @ god that some twitter weirdos stop acting like ikuhara invented the takarazuka revue in 1997, lol is recommending it based on if someone liked the style of utena bad
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 13:26 |
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glad of this shot of a tiny mountain climber
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 13:30 |
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Aurora posted:is recommending it based on if someone liked the style of utena bad Urena is good.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 13:58 |
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I think it's more about ikuharas inflated status as aueteur that is the prickly point. He had influence but was not the sole originator and the work of a lot of others was just as important.
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 13:59 |
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Aurora posted:is recommending it based on if someone liked the style of utena bad no, the director's an ikuhara collaborator and they share a common point of origin its just the difference between 'if you like madoka magica, check out wixoss, they both take the magical girl thing in interesting directions' and 'madoka magica INVENTED magical girl stories having stakes and wixoss is a ripoff'
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 14:36 |
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ah, i see
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 14:49 |
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Sharkopath posted:I think it's more about ikuharas inflated status as aueteur that is the prickly point. i don't see how ikuhara having very clear influences inflates his status as an auteur, he's one the few anime directors where you can cleanly draw the lines of auteurism
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 15:05 |
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Parallax posted:i don't see how ikuhara having very clear influences inflates his status as an auteur, he's one the few anime directors where you can cleanly draw the lines of auteurism and nobody's saying ikuhara isnt a talented director with a distinctive style, just that people should probably realize the things he was inspired by, existed long before him
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# ? Jul 17, 2018 15:10 |
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That's true for literally every creator ever, though?
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auteur gets inflated into meaning someone struck the ground and this sole act of power caused an anime to spring fully formed from the earth but in its more practical meaning i think it still has some use
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Waffleman_ posted:That's true for literally every creator ever, though?
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Endorph posted:i disagree on that second point, as for the first point that isnt what was said no, i know that's what you were saying, but that did not seem like what sharkey was saying, but i would like to know why you disagree on the second point
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