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Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Barry Convex posted:

New EW article with official pics. As someone with zero prior investment in the property, it looks pretty good to me. It'll also piss off some of the worst people on the planet, which is not a bad thing.





get this homo girly calarts style out of my checks notes children's cartoon for girls

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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Well, considering the source, it's more like girly homo.

Also I like Adora's civilian outfit being like a military uniform jacket with a little insignia patch. It's a neat update and actually makes her look a bit more like Adam than her 'classic' design, while calling back to the idea that she was basically in the fantasy SS before she got her memories and powers back.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Nice to see Beau keeping his giant valentine-card heart and belly shirt.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch

Gaz-L posted:

Well, considering the source, it's more like girly homo.

yeah sorry got the order mixed up


e: hmm the image isnt linking so heres the post

https://twitter.com/tessamag/status/1018834134096064512

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
Yes, because the original show totally didn't feature Adora and her gay best friend moving to The Village a village in the forest where she could hang out with dozens of women who were 'unusual' like her.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.
What happened between MLP and 2018 that manchildren now are angry at cute cartoon girls instead of being allured by them?

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
the boobs got smaller and every line they speak is now "kill all white men, death to the capitalist patriarchy" i guess :shrug:

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Samuringa posted:

What happened between MLP and 2018 that manchildren now are angry at cute cartoon girls instead of being allured by them?

Kathleen Kennedy.

(I don't know if that's the right answer but I've seen loads of thumbnails for YouTube videos I've never watched and have drawn conclusions accordingly.)

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

site posted:

the boobs got smaller and every line they speak is now "kill all white men, death to the capitalist patriarchy" i guess :shrug:

I'm not happy about the smaller boobs, but I'll take it if the rest of the sentence is also true.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Samuringa posted:

What happened between MLP and 2018 that manchildren now are angry at cute cartoon girls instead of being allured by them?

Women started making the cartoon girls.

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

Wasn't the new MLP created by a woman though?

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Galvanik posted:

Wasn't the new MLP created by a woman though?

You mean the old MLP from like 10 years ago? I guess. Nothing about that fandom ever made sense to me.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Lurdiak posted:

You mean the old MLP from like 10 years ago? I guess. Nothing about that fandom ever made sense to me.

http://falloutequestria.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_Equestria

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep

Samuringa posted:

What happened between MLP and 2018 that manchildren now are angry at cute cartoon girls instead of being allured by them?

I like to think Bronies were so brutally persecuted that those types now feel bad about jerkin' it to childrens cartoons. Of course now instead of moving on with their lives they're trying to punish people for making them feel bad about it.

Vandar
Sep 14, 2007

Isn't That Right, Chairman?



Samuringa posted:

What happened between MLP and 2018 that manchildren now are angry at cute cartoon girls instead of being allured by them?

Gamergate and then Drumpf and then Comicsgate.

EDIT: We have a word filter on the president's name?

ManlyGrunting
May 29, 2014

Bronies that weren't closeted trans girls got up to some weird poo poo

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Dunno if we had the date already

http://ew.com/tv/2018/07/16/marvel-rising-new-generation-female-fans/ posted:

The six Marvel Rising: Initiation shorts will premiere back-to-back on Disney XD on Aug. 13

e: oh i guess theres a trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbhhBoFheaY

site fucked around with this message at 00:31 on Jul 17, 2018

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Samuringa posted:

What happened between MLP and 2018 that manchildren now are angry at cute cartoon girls instead of being allured by them?

It became evident that the people making the show were not making it with the interests of (cishet) boys first and foremost, and they got to experience being entirely secondary to a media product they cared about for the first time.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Vandar posted:

Gamergate and then Drumpf and then Comicsgate.

EDIT: We have a word filter on the president's name?

Trump

Edit: no we don't

Galvanik
Feb 28, 2013

Lurdiak posted:

You mean the old MLP from like 10 years ago? I guess. Nothing about that fandom ever made sense to me.
Man I must be old now that I'm thinking of something from a decade ago is the new version. Anyway, it's not the 80s series is what I meant.

As I was driving to get diner I was thinking more about it, and while I don't watch the shows so I can't speak to any specifics, my instinct tells me that MLP was acceptable to them because it featured and reinforced the correct way for girls to be. And the creators of MLP also stumbled onto a dynamic that's heavily featured in anime. A selection girls with varied personalities: The shy one, the prissy one, the smart one etc. All ultimately meant to catch the eye of the male audience who buys merchandise of "their" girl. So MLP had a bunch of stereotypical non threatening girls, and the show was at best something to ignore as to girly, and at worst inadvertently synching up with the some of the creepiest parts of the anime industry's pandering to 30 year old men.

Steven Universe, She Ra or the rest (probably) have women who don't exist to placate the fantasies of those men. Like the characters are either implicitly or explicitly lesbians, or that the series as a whole just acknowledges that being a gay is a valid choice. Which is threatening to them, so they want to stomp it down.

Just my gut instinct on why one show is ok, and the others work them into a frothing mad frenzy.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Steven Universe also has a boy who’s a failure at masculinity in the same ways that they are (fat, introverted, sensitive, into video games) but who responds by caring about others and building community instead of retreating into isolation and hollow consumerism. They probably hate seeing their weakness reflected back at them and overcome with the help of a collective of gay power moms.

Supersonic Shine
Oct 13, 2012

Barry Convex posted:

New EW article with official pics. As someone with zero prior investment in the property, it looks pretty good to me. It'll also piss off some of the worst people on the planet, which is not a bad thing.




Can't quite pinpoint the era, but this makes me think of old-school anime. I like it.

Samuringa
Mar 27, 2017

Best advice I was ever given?

"Ticker, you'll be a lot happier once you stop caring about the opinions of a culture that is beneath you."

I learned my worth, learned the places and people that matter.

Opened my eyes.

Supersonic Shine posted:

Can't quite pinpoint the era, but this makes me think of old-school anime. I like it.

A bit of the 70s, but modernized?

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
I was thinking it looked more like old school Gundam

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
Utena

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


I'm seeing the Utena in the fashion but not in the art style.

There's a heavy dose of influence from the classic She-ra's visual style, especially when it comes to the color temperatures and the backgrounds.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Samuringa posted:

A bit of the 70s, but modernized?



I like this. I really dislike that She-Ra art. It all comes down to how it looks in motion (I will almost certainly never watch this show so I don’t actually care).

My son used to watch MLP (as a 5 year old, not a 25 year old). It’s been a while but I remember really disliking the show. Everyone was lovely to one another while pretending to be friends. It didn’t feel like a positive message for kids and it wasn’t at all what I thought it would be. I dunno, it was years ago.

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Those She-Ra stills look cool. I guess they're making Catra into something other than a generic evil lieutenant?

The comments on that article are crazy. The right wing nerd take on this reboot appears to be that it's social justice gone mad because She-Ra has "a boyish hairline...broad shoulders," etc and therefore is clearly going to be transgender in the show, which of course would be terrible and very bad. The amount of toxicity these people are bringing to literally preview stills of a reboot of a failed children's cartoon that ran for one year in the 80s is staggering.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.
She-Ra does kinda look like the lead singer of an 80s hair metal band, I just don't get why people think that's a bad thing. Why are the only two ways to draw a woman in a cartoon supposed to be Ditko era Aunt May or Jim Lee era Psylocke?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I'm not a girl or a child so I can't possibly care less about She-Ra, but it will be funny seeing white men melt down that it's not like "their" She-Ra.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I don't see anything boyish about her at all, although I am a little surprised they didn't try to give her visible muscles at all.

From what I've seen the original She-Ra's style was pretty poo poo, so getting away from that's probably a positive.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
Well she doesn't have giant breasts and isn't mostly naked, therefore she is clearly boyish.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Don't the incel chuds use He-Man (and only He-Man, and even he isn't an example of it) as an example of unrealistic standards of beauty for men? I would imagine that until this moment, they considered She-Ra just another betrayal of helpless men by the brutal gynocracy.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


business hammocks posted:

Don't the incel chuds use He-Man (and only He-Man, and even he isn't an example of it) as an example of unrealistic standards of beauty for men?

They don't actually think that, it's just something they bring up to shut up anyone complaining about their titty anime or whatever. Just like they don't give a poo poo about woman-on-man abuse or men's shelters.

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
I mean so what they think if they can't see a woman's tits she must be a man? No one tell them about winter coats

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC
They have pretty consistently loss their poo poo at even the suggestion of desexualizing character designs for women. Winter probably infuriates them. Even though they barely go outside and have normal human contact anyway.

business hammocks posted:

Don't the incel chuds use He-Man (and only He-Man, and even he isn't an example of it) as an example of unrealistic standards of beauty for men? I would imagine that until this moment, they considered She-Ra just another betrayal of helpless men by the brutal gynocracy.

I love that argument because even at a glance it doesn't make loving sense. Superheroes having muscles, which you can get through working out for the most part, is not the same as a woman having huge breasts and certain hip ratios. They also literally don't even represent the same thing, which is why dudes can walk around topless and be on a kid's cartoon topless, but women can actually get into trouble over cleavage. It's preposterous.

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
I would imagine they like heman because he looks like generic strong Aryan man and they literally emphasize his male gender in the name

site fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 17, 2018

HIJK
Nov 25, 2012
in the room where you sleep
A children's cartoon doesn't have pornographic detail of women's titties flopping around, twitter users everywhere fall to their knees wailing because they can't get it up to THIS particular cartoon

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer
Internet cartoon watching response form:

Is it the exact same as when I was a kid?

If yes, respond with excitement. If no, throw a poo poo fit.

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ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

HIJK posted:

A children's cartoon doesn't have pornographic detail of women's titties flopping around, twitter users everywhere fall to their knees wailing because they can't get it up to THIS particular cartoon

Really puts the popularity of anime amongst that demographic and waifu culture into perspective.

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