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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1019265787528392704 The liberals are insanely lucky Kennedy finished off public teacher unions for them, they tried and failed to destroy the things themselves over 30+ years with charter reform etc, and with the overton window/general zeitgeist is now shifting back to where it's untenable for them to keep the neoliberal education orthodoxy with their voting base, it was starting to look like american public schools and unions would actually survive. thank god
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Grondoth posted:We're LITERALLY tearing kids from their parents and they come out months later covered in lice, and this is the most he's got not to mention that trump used both the framework for child detention and the surveillance apparatus that obama set up for him to do it not even getting into obama turning in the dreamers information over to trump
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really queer Christmas posted:shouldn’t be a shock that the uk thread really struggled to understand why dead monarchists are good. Only ventured in there once or twice to lurk. I don't know how people in the UK feel (I imagine it's a wide range of opinions from "hate monarchy" to "wrong") but holyyyyy poo poo there's a lot of stupid-as-gently caress Americans who get excited whenever there's a royal wedding or a baby or whenever the queen manages to live another year.
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cheese posted:She went from running bar to front page of CNN and late night talk shows in like 3 seconds. She is being flooded with attention and very convincing careerist Dem's trying to get a piece of her, but I still have faith. Going on a lovely podcast isn't the end of the world. It's impossible to understate how easy it is to just lean into all the positive attention from a bunch of people with money/power that you get if you go along with the stuff they want (that they happen to phrase in ways that allow you to keep feeling like you're a good person). I think it's impossible to predict how a person will react to that until they've been exposed to it (which is partly why I trust Sanders more than most other people).
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ikanreed posted:This is legal, fyi of course it is, money is speech, are you anti-speech?!?  checkmate
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How are broke are American brains vis-a-vis communism? It seems like very
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So this is that horseshoe thing people keep talking about.
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phasmid posted:So this is that horseshoe thing people keep talking about. It's more "scratch a liberal, find a fascist"
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phasmid posted:So this is that horseshoe thing people keep talking about. fish hook theory.
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Joe Kennedy gonna run on grandpa having worked for McCarthy, mark my words
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im the black pussy hats for boys lmao
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Resurrected Huey P. Long today, resurrected Huey P. Long tomorrow, resurrected Huey P. Long forevah Every Man a King.
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ikanreed posted:I used to think Warren was cool. I'm dumb All people who go "yeah I'm a left-leaning liberal but not a full socialist" gradually transition there over years of repeatedly experiencing things like this. basic hitler posted:Going fygm isnt unheard of and there's historically no reason to hope for the best here. John Lewis is pretty much the go-to example of how someone who bravely fought for justice while a victim of injustice can still switch teams once they find themselves with money/power. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1019243052261666816 its also interesting that economic issues are at their lowest point since 2007.
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ikanreed posted:How are broke are American brains vis-a-vis communism? It seems like very American brains have been broke about Communism since about 1947. What you've seen since 2012/2013 is just a long-dormant pathology violently reasserting itself, for various reasons, but the basic behavior you're seeing from liberals today with Russia is literally identical to what things were like in the 40s, 50s, and 60s. American liberalism has always been like this
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Here's a nice book on the subject BTW https://press.princeton.edu/titles/4318.html quote:The Liberals and J. Edgar Hoover Rise and Fall of a Domestic Intelligence State William W. Keller
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she's running https://twitter.com/edokeefe/status/1019310828774985728
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really queer Christmas posted:https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1019243052261666816 the labor market is fairly decent for this iteration of neoliberal hell and I think the way the question is framed might be somewhat misleading- i.e. I think most people agree there are multiple major issues that need to be addressed and if you asked me to synthesize that into a single most important issue my response would almost certainly be coded as "non-economic" "Dissatisfaction with government/Poor leadership" despite the fact that I think structural economic issues are among the most pressing national concerns e: and framing "healthcare" and "Poverty/Hunger/Homelessness" as "non-economic" is extremely questionable e2: also curious how much the uptick in "Immigration/Illegal aliens" is racism vs. people concerned about baby camps LGD fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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MizPiz posted:I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about them being like goons in a hockey game; they should care more about preventing people from voting for and proposing policies than doing it themselves. there IS precedent there, tbf 
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Modus Pwnens posted:Weren't charter schools originally a progressive/union-backed idea in MA before it got coopted by union/government-busters?
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ikanreed posted:How are broke are American brains vis-a-vis communism? It seems like very its extremely difficult to exaggerate the reality. luckily they like marxist ideas. you just can't call anything communal, social, socialist, or mention academic theory at any point whatsoever.
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really queer Christmas posted:https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1019243052261666816 i think the most interesting thing about this is that "lack of respect for each other" is pretty low considering that the dems and the media keep saying over and over that it's the real cause of all of america's political problems
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ThndrShk2k posted:I call into question Hillary being anything remotely close to 'magnetic' on her own. My take is that at some point in her life Hillary Clinton was an authentic, kind of quirky and sometimes even fun young woman. Sure she'd never be a Bill or Obama but at least she could have been a regular human being that someone might have liked, or at least have been bland or inoffensive like the majority of American politicians. Then she decided she would focus test her persona out to a consultant and did her best to do whatever bullshit notes came back at the time. This woman who was born and raised in Chicago and went to school in the Northeast had a southern accent in the 90s when she needed to win over Arkansas voters, then dumped it for a Yankees cap when she carpetbagged her way into the senate.
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cheese posted:Untying schools from property taxes is staggeringly simple. You just need to make the shared funding pot bigger. Instead of having funding based on city/district/county, you make it by state. This sounds far too simple for a liberal.
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really queer Christmas posted:https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1019243052261666816 lol how is healthcare not an economic issue
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cenotaph posted:This sounds far too simple for a liberal.
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/curaffairs/status/1019265787528392704 
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future democratic presidential campaigns are going to automatically chop up the max $2,700 individual direct donor limits to a campaign into 100 separate chunks the DNC joint fundraising shenanigans are going to chop up checks totalling $1,424,400 from a single couple for the benefit of a single presidential campaign in the primaries into 53,000 separate small donations comedyblissoption fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jul 17, 2018 |
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cheese posted:Canada did it, switching to a province pooled system and saw real benefits in student achievement while actually spending less. Turns out "fixing" education is simple as "take some of the extra money rich districts have and give it to poor ones".
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cenotaph posted:This sounds far too simple for a liberal. you can't just BUILD a LIBRARY how about : tax credits for bus companies that hit diversity quotas for student-passengers
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really queer Christmas posted:https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/1019243052261666816 It is actually really cool that they included an option that's just "our leaders are incompetent or corrupt or both" because if I had to pick a "non-economic" thing that was my biggest issue that'd probably be it and that's the one that loving won
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Matt Zerella posted:has ny ever had a good senator? even bobby Kennedy was succ Jacob Javits?
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