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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold


hello and welcome to cspam's premier thread regarding the american lib. the american lib, also known as a democrat, is an endangered species largely due to its own loving stupidity. this thread is where we discuss (and mock) the actions of the libs while the all consuming wave of fascism races to crush us to death.

In addition to the standard CSPAM rules we only really have one rule here in the suck zone. DO NOT MAKE THE DISCUSSION ABOUT YOURSELF/OTHER POSTERS. argue whatever the gently caress you want (as long as it relates to the libs or american politics) but not about how how leftist/chud-y a poster is or how you're so much better than another poster (spoiler: you aren't).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbD1XDhKr8U


Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Oct 4, 2018

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
first order of business: a new title to replace this horrible one i came up with

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
Dems are a waste

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

gettin in on the ground floor of a huge mistake

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
circular firing #squadgoals

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

ground floor in the self-flagellation station

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

I love posting!!!

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo
TRUMO

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Karl Barks posted:

I love posting!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j6xm7e5bJo

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i still stand by the whiskey juvenile and concerned citizen rule i made just before the succ zone closed btw

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Reply from last thread:

SKULL.GIF posted:

On the Russian thing, here's a thread:

The problem is that this part:

quote:

5. If your concern is that it demobilizes opposition, what's the evidence for that? If your concern is that it undermines efforts to make the Dems more progressive, why not adopt @DavidKlion's argument that it *focuses* attention on oligarchic rent-extraction, capital mobility, &c?

will absolutely never become the narrative used in the mainstream regarding Trump-Russia. In practice, the narrative will only serve to distract, even if it could hypothetically be turned towards something good. There is no practically good outcome from focusing on Trump's connections to Russia that couldn't be accomplished more effectively by just advocating for good policy and getting rid of Trump in 2020.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

anime was right posted:

i still stand by the whiskey juvenile and concerned citizen rule i made just before the succ zone closed btw

hey nerd, gently caress rules.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

God bless this new thread

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


postin in the succ

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

anime was right posted:

i still stand by the whiskey juvenile and concerned citizen rule i made just before the succ zone closed btw

shut up cop

(im glad of it)

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!
Kamala Harris is a Cop

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010


dean turning out to be actually bugshit insane is my favorite thing

GobiasIndustries
Dec 14, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Chuck Schumer is worthless

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Here is a good article that was lost last thread:

quote:

I’ve spoken to hundreds of voters in “flyover country.” Socialism is an easy sell.
Kentucky voters are ready for a bold progressive agenda.
By Richard Becker Jul 12, 2018, 12:10pm EDT
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Kentucky Public school teachers rally for a “day of action” at the Kentucky State Capitol to try to pressure legislators to override Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin’s recent veto of the state’s tax and budget bills on April 13, 2018, in Frankfort, Kentucky. Bill Pugliano/Getty Images
First Person
Vox's home for compelling, provocative narrative essays.

On a bitterly cold day in late January, I knocked on the door of a home in Louisville, Kentucky’s Camp Taylor neighborhood. I was running for state representative in a Democratic primary and was spreading the word about my candidacy. Camp Taylor was an interesting community politically: It was full of registered Democrats who hadn’t been turning up to vote in recent elections.

A woman in her 50s came to the door and peeked through the curtain at me. “Hi,” I said. “I’m Richard Becker and I’m running for state representative!” She turned the deadbolt and opened the door.

“I just wanted to stop by and introduce myself and find out what issues—” I was interrupted by a voice from further in the house. “I want to know if you’re gonna fight for people like me!” a woman’s voice said from the couch.

“That’s my daughter,” the woman said. “She got hurt in an accident and can’t walk very well anymore.”

“And now this governor thinks I should have to go to work to get my health care? I can’t even walk to the bathroom without help!” the younger woman cried out, referring, presumably, to Gov. Matt Bevin’s plans to impose work requirements on Medicaid recipients.

“I don’t know what to say,” I said. “And I don’t know what to tell you other than I will fight for you. Fighting Gov. Bevin’s Medicaid work requirements and fighting for universal—”

“What we need is single-payer health care!” the mother interrupted.

“I couldn’t agree more,” I said. I stopped by that house twice more before the end of the campaign, and by Election Day, they had placed one of my signs in their yard.

I’m a union organizer who ran in Kentucky on a leftist platform and I was campaigning in the state’s 35th District. Predominantly white and working-class, the district exists in a sort of bubble within Louisville. Containing rapidly gentrifying, liberal neighborhoods like Germantown and Schnitzelburg, as well as more conservative areas like Okolona and Lynnview, the 35th District holds political lessons about the viability of a progressive platform for those willing to listen.

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Black voters exist in the Midwest. Democrats, ignore us at your peril.
It’s a district that is overwhelmingly Democratic by voter registration numbers, but like many communities across the South, the Democrats here don’t necessarily always vote with their party. The district went for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 Democratic primary by a margin of 53 percent to 45 percent. In the general election, Hillary Clinton won the district with just 54 percent of the vote, or 9,554 votes, out of a total of more than 18,000 Democrats. Many of the registered Democrats in this part of town voted for Donald Trump.

I knocked on hundreds of doors. While I didn’t win my race — I finished second in a three-way primary — through my conversations, I heard over and over again that Louisville voters were tired of timidity, incrementalism, and equivocation. They craved boldness and candidates who will not only fight for them but with them on issues that affect their lives: truly universal health care, free college tuition, combatting income inequality, and restoring and strengthening workers’ rights.

The popularity of the teacher strikes show that “red” states are ready for progressivism
I ran for the state legislature in the shadow of an intensely controversial legislative session that saw right-wing Gov. Bevin ram through so-called “pension reform,” gutting retirement benefits for public employees. Apparently startled by the backlash to his proposals, Bevin lobbed vitriolic insults at teachers and other public employees, calling them “selfish,” “thuggish,” and “ignorant and uninformed.”

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Centrist Democrats are crucial to building the left’s power in the Midwest
Bevin’s push to make cuts to public employee retirement benefits came as teacher strikes swept the country, from West Virginia to Colorado. Inspired by their fellow educators across the country and angry over Bevin’s insults, Kentucky’s teachers shut down their schools for several days earlier this year and rallied in Frankfort, the capital.

To stand, as I did, on the steps of the Kentucky State Capitol amidst a sea of red — striking teachers, marching en masse on the legislature, wore red to symbolize solidarity (“Wear Red for Ed[ucation]”) — underscored one of the values we had set out to uphold on the campaign: that an organized working class is the most powerful political force you’ll find.

Across Kentucky, the potency of the teachers’ movement persists, with record numbers of educators running for office, and one teacher, R. Travis Brenda, even defeating an incumbent, House majority leader Jonathan Shell, in a Republican primary. Brenda ran on a pro-pension, pro-public education platform. This uprising echoed in red states across the country is proof of a nationwide working-class awakening.

Voters are fed up with a political class that defends its corporate masters and spits in the faces of working-class people. An overwhelming majority of voters, 77 percent, want to see the influence of money in politics curbed, while establishment politicians of both parties continue accepting campaign checks from big business.

Democrats need to reach out to people disengaged with the political system
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s stunning victory over establishment Democrat Joe Crowley in New York’s 14th District primary this year set off the latest iteration of Democratic Party hand-wringing over the future of the party. Establishment Democrats across America wasted no time in admonishing the left to know its place and discounting Ocasio-Cortez’s success as an aberration and a product of her deep-blue district. This political earthquake, they assured us, was most certainly not indicative of any broader political trend.

But to see the potential of progressive politics, even in supposedly moderate states, we need only look to the success of candidates like Virginia’s Lee Carter, a 31-year old former Marine who ran for the House of Delegates in 2017 as an open socialist against an entrenched Republican incumbent — and won. Or, obviously, Bernie Sanders’s 2016 presidential campaign, which saw victories in Rust Belt states across the Midwest, including Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, and West Virginia.

Further, polling suggests that progressive or even “socialist” policy prescriptions actually enjoy considerable support among voters, with Americans supporting a federal jobs guarantee by a margin of 52 percent to 29 percent.

With only 23 percent of voters casting a ballot in the 2018 Kentucky primaries for both parties, progressives within the party have a real opportunity to expand the voter pool by offering a message that draws people into the political process. The Democratic Party can win by attracting non-voters who are disengaged from a political system and bought and paid for by corporate America — and by embracing the next generation of political leadership, a generation that by all accounts is more progressive than their parents on almost every issue.

Although I didn’t win my bid for public office, the issues I ran on — Medicare-for-all, restoring and strengthening workers’ rights, and free college tuition — resonated overwhelmingly with the voters I spoke with. I earned the endorsements of sitting members of the Kentucky General Assembly and more than a dozen local labor unions. Not bad for someone campaigning on an openly left-wing platform in a supposedly centrist city.

The question today is: Will the party continue to circle the wagons around more corporate-friendly, “mainstream” candidates, or will it welcome and support truly progressive candidates who will fight for the working class?

How Democrats choose to answer the call of my generation will likely determine whether the party goes the way of the Whigs — drifting away into history as a failed political party — or if it can secure majority status once again. If and when the party chooses to open itself up to more progressive elements and ideas, you can bet there will be millions of us ready to help realize that vision.

Richard Becker is a union organizer, millennial, and political activist in Louisville, Kentucky. He ran for state representative in Kentucky’s 35th District in the May 2018 primary election."]

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



ground floor of a garbage thread, because the dems are garbage

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
consolidating data-centrists

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Apparently this is like a beta test for the ongoing gbs-cspam merger so let's get some ground rules established early -

gbs refugees
u MAY empty quote me
U MAY NOT @ me without permission
if ur a Russian asset, a chudling or a centrist.... I will come at u hard and fast

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
s u c c

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


succccccccc

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


BERNOE!!!!!!!!!

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

welcome GBS posters to the pain dimension :evilbuddy:

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Crazycryodude posted:

BERNOE!!!!!!!!!

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Also dont copy+past huge blockquotes like known Russian asset "ain't poo poo on live tv"

Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
Dan Crenshaw's Eyepatch

triple sulk posted:

ground floor of a garbage thread, because the dems are garbage

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

triple sulk
Sep 17, 2014



anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
Centrism is of vital importance today because the global economy is in a terrible meltdown — perhaps worse than any cyclical slump since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Alas, many textbooks have strayed too far toward over-complacent libertarianism. They joined the celebration of free-market finance and supported dismantling regulations and abolishing oversight. The bitter harvest of this celebration was seen in the irrationally exuberant housing and stock markets that collapsed and led to the current financial crisis. The centrism we describe is not a prescription that is intended to persuade readers away from their beliefs. We are analysts and not cult prescribers. It is not ideology that breeds centrism as our theme. We sift facts and theories to determine the consequences of Hayek-Friedman libertarianism or Marx-Lenin bureaucratic communism. All readers are free to make up their own minds about best ethics and value judgments. … The follies of the left and right both mandate centrism. Tightly controlled central planning, which was widely advocated in the middle decades of the last century, was abandoned after it produced stagnation and unhappy consumers in communist countries. … Only by steering our societies back to the limited center can we ensure that the global economy returns to full employment where the fruits of progress are more equally shared.


just see how much of this you can fit in the thread field

Dirk Pitt
Sep 14, 2007

haha yes, this feels good

Toilet Rascal
Dems succcccc

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Nurge
Feb 4, 2009

by Reene
Fun Shoe
The politics did real bad today. First half it looked kind of ok, but then they went soft in the middle and now we're all hosed.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!
Cant wait for pragmatism to rain piss

ur in my world now
Jun 5, 2006

Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was
Same as it ever was


Smellrose

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWphqA1Slrw&t=61s

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

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Marxalot
Dec 24, 2008

Appropriator of
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I am of the opinion that the Democrats are a waste.

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