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VJeff posted:I call BS on any of them being able to even touch Metal Sonic with all seven emeralds. But that's the first thing knuckles does in the series!
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I guess I hit one of those speed traps - Got launched in Hydrocity and even though it didnt look like I was stuck I just couldn't move or even pause the game, and the game doesn't even time over at 10 minutes anymore so I couldn't wait it out to go back to checkpoint.
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Jul 18, 2018 00:18
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Mania Plus has time trial replays and the encore stages are included in time trial. Time to play this game for another 100 hours...
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Chillgamesh posted:i fuckin need a gif of that ray double thumbs up victory animation, it's so good Same, I need it too.
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Anyone know how to get Mania Plus on the Switch? I don't see it in the eShop or any option inside of my vanilla Sonic Mania to upgrade.
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snackcakes posted:Anyone know how to get Mania Plus on the Switch? I don't see it in the eShop or any option inside of my vanilla Sonic Mania to upgrade. Update your game and it’s an option in the game itself.
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Or go to Sonic Mania's entry in the shop and there's an option for the DLC.
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Jul 18, 2018 00:40
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Dang, only managed to get 1 emerald in my playthrough. Did find a really easy to get to ring though - FBZ1, pretty much right at the start of the level.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I'm fine with the lives system but everything else I agree with You're half right, because it does both random and it moves you down a line. It depends on the monitor you hit. If you hit the ? monitor, then it just randomly swaps everyone around. Chaos reigns. You have no control, or at least, none that I can tell. BUT! If you hit the swap monitor (the blue and orange arrows in a circle), then you swap the character you're currently controlling with the next person down the line. Example: Say you're using Knuckles with Tails as the partner, and then down at the bottom, you have the icons in this order: Ray, Mighty, Sonic. You hit the swap monitor, and Knuckles gets swapped with Ray, and then Knuckles goes back to the end of the order, leaving it as M, S, K. The order of those letter icons determine who you will swap to when you hit the swap monitor, and it also determines who you'll get if a character bites it. If like say, you have Ray w/ Tails, and then M, S, K, if Ray dies, then you'll swap to control of Tails, and Mighty will become your partner, leaving the remaining order as S, K until you get him back via 1up monitor or pinball. There is a logic to this, it's just that thanks to the ? monitor mixing things up, and how you're probably not going to be paying as much attention to the bottom left corner, it might be easily overlooked.
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SeANMcBAY posted:Update your game and it’s an option in the game itself. Kurieg posted:Or go to Sonic Mania's entry in the shop and there's an option for the DLC. My heroes. I didn't see anything in the shop, but I am updating the game now. Had no idea that there was an option to update manually.
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Jul 18, 2018 03:54
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Mighty's invulnerability frames are just hilariously overpowered and game-breaking and I love it.
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I wish they'd had it so that, say, Star Posts allowed you to select from any character.
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I quite like the character switching mechanic, everyone plays similarly enough that you can just roll with what you have, although you don't appear to be able to carry people as Tails in Encore mode? Would have been a pro tier extra to have a mode that features all five characters at once with switching between all of them, though. I'm up to Lava Reef with five emeralds; the new special stages took some getting used to, but I managed the fifth emerald on the first try, so they aren't an egregiously big step up from the vanilla stages, just easy to be tripped up by the new mechanics. The stage recolours I can take or leave; Oil Ocean looks crisp and pleasant and I honestly prefer it to the vanilla version, but some of them just slap a yellowy-green tinge on things with all the finesse of a Gameboy Colour recolouring a standard Gameboy game and call it a day.
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I genuinely do not know how you're supposed to get the emerald in the *first* special stage Its not that hard, its just more are you willing to play more dangerously like making tight turns buy jumping the corners where the spikes and pits are or jumping over the ramp to not waste time in the air
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Kaethela posted:Perhaps I am just a dumb idiot, but what are the controls for the pinball bonus mode? D-pad doesn't seem to do anything, so I'm curious if it's only ABXY that control it. If so, that seems... bad. You can use the shoulder buttons to control the flippers as well, feels a lot more natural.
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Frankston posted:You can use the shoulder buttons to control the flippers as well, feels a lot more natural. gently caress, I hadn't even thought of trying that. Thank you.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:The stage recolours I can take or leave; Oil Ocean looks crisp and pleasant and I honestly prefer it to the vanilla version, but some of them just slap a yellowy-green tinge on things with all the finesse of a Gameboy Colour recolouring a standard Gameboy game and call it a day. It gives me a flashback to when I was 14 hex editing sonic roms to change the level palettes.
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oh poo poo they left a debug button enabled in the special stages, you gain 1+ mach every time you press the player switch/go super button
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the cool posts kid posted:oh poo poo they left a debug button enabled in the special stages, you gain 1+ mach every time you press the player switch/go super button Confirmed, can't recommend immediately going to mach three because it really throws you, but jumping straight up to mach two really powered me through to that sixth emerald. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Jul 18, 2018 |
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With a little bit of exploring I was able to get 3 emeralds before leaving Green Hill. Couldn't seem to find anymore Giant Rings.
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I like and don't like the character switching. Dying in a boss fight and immediately switching to a new character without starting the fight over is cool, but dying on your last character and then respawning with just one character kinda sucks. You basically need to have a bunch of continues or exit and do the level again
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Xad posted:I like and don't like the character switching. Dying in a boss fight and immediately switching to a new character without starting the fight over is cool, but dying on your last character and then respawning with just one character kinda sucks. You basically need to have a bunch of continues or exit and do the level again Yeah, that's the worst part. I've also did like 3 zones back to back with only Mighty after wiping on the Oil Ocean 2 boss, just couldn't find any goddamn character boxes, only ones that switch you to different characters. Didn't think to grind in the checkpoint bonus stage either so that's on me  Still, I'd like if they balance it so that lower routes are slow and dangerous, but also have more of those "lives".Also did Mania Mode also show your complete time at the end, divided into individual zones? It's been a while since I cleared that and sat all the way to the end, but I liked that they showed that in Encore.
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Kikas posted:Also did Mania Mode also show your complete time at the end, divided into individual zones? It's been a while since I cleared that and sat all the way to the end, but I liked that they showed that in Encore. No I'm pretty sure that's something new they added for Plus.
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I guess it's also the removal of "100 rings = 1UP" thing that hurts, too. Since rings don't do anything other than prevent death now, there's no incentive to have a lot of them other than score and making it easier to get some back if you get hit.
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I wish I could start with 5 lives instead of three, since I suck at sonic games. I have never been good at these.
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Hell yeah, you can get all 7 Chaos Emeralds by Chemical Plant Act 2. Also godspeed to anyone having trouble with Emerald 7.
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poo poo, I can't even get encore emerald 1. I don't know how you guys do it. I'm posting from work, so i didn't know about the debug thing till today.
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Jul 18, 2018 20:10
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Pro-Tip: You can get your characters back from the pinball special stages. Hold on to 50 rings for those checkpoints!
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Getting mixed signals from Encore's reception. I have no particular nostalgia for Mighty and didn't even know Ray existed a year ago. I'll probably pass on it. Bad Seafood fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jul 18, 2018 |
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Jul 18, 2018 20:54
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You don’t really need nostalgia to enjoy playing as them. They both have fun unique abilities.
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No, but it does mean I'm not chomping at the bit to play as them, so there's no rush to check out the DLC in light of other issues that may yet be patched or fiddled with. The consensus, as much as there is one, seems to be Mighty and Ray are good, other additions and alternations are questionable and/or glitchy. I'm mostly using this thread as my yardstick though, so perhaps other places are more positive or negative.
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Pre-Plus, were there ever any title updates that wiped the leaderboards? I like the idea of going through and leaving a time with all characters for every stage but not if it's likely to be undone in a month.
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Bad Seafood posted:No, but it does mean I'm not chomping at the bit to play as them, so there's no rush to check out the DLC in light of other issues that may yet be patched or fiddled with. Things are definitely a bit glitchy so definitely wait a bit if that really bothers you. Robotnik’s deadly speed traps have gotten me twice in encore mode in like 45 min of play.
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All the character swapping has done for me is remind me of various glitches that result in a character getting crushed when they're supposed to be just slipping through a gap.
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Encore DLC has so far been worth the £4 or so I paid for it, no regrets.
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Thoughts on Mania Plus after an Encore playthrough. -Ray is extremely fun and Super Ray is kind of insane. -The Encore levels are different enough that they're probably going to have different routes for time trial mode. Huge plus for me. -Knuckles really needs a buff now that Ray exists...Let him roll or even run after gliding or something, please. -I really enjoyed the new special stages, the first one definitely took the most attempts. -The new level transitions are great! Especially Oil Ocean -> Lava Reef and Metallic Madness -> Titanic Monarch -The Titanic Monarch Act 2 boss has a slight change that makes him a little harder. Now the upper tentacles go away first instead of the lower ones, I really like this change. -I hope I wasn't missing something in the all emeralds ending...
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Oil Ocean > Lava Reef caught me off guard.
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Evil Eagle posted:-The Titanic Monarch Act 2 boss has a slight change that makes him a little harder. Now the upper tentacles go away first instead of the lower ones, I really like this change. Oh that's a nice one. I always thought it was weird that one of the final bosses got much much easier the more you damaged him, so this is a nice change of pace.
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Did they add a bunch of stuff to Mania mode? I feel they like they polished it up and added some new level transitions and stuff. I remember being jarred by being thrown into some zones with no transition animation but now they all seem to have something. Ray sucks, Mighty owns.
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bradzilla posted:Did they add a bunch of stuff to Mania mode? I feel they like they polished it up and added some new level transitions and stuff. I remember being jarred by being thrown into some zones with no transition animation but now they all seem to have something. Yeah, all zones now have had transitions added, Metal Sonic's boss fight was overhauled, and a few other sections have had minor tweaks. They're both really good, Ray just shines in more specific circumstances. Like the fact he can basically fly over large swaths of many courses.
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