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This gets me huge. Almost none of these guys could have given less of a drat about She-Ra, and in fact probably regarded it as a cringy knock-off of He-Man, until it was a possible source of outrage about their new hobbyhorse re: the SJWs ruining children's cartoons. Personally I have a lowkey love for the schlocky girl power science fantasy of old She-Ra, and am excited to see those motifs treated with a more skillful hand. It might not be good, but I think Stevenson is a cool artist and I'm interested to see what she does with it.
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This redesign of She-Ra is the best thing that could have happened at the best time because if loving slam dunks on these assholes and definitively proves that they have never had a point. People will forever only need to point to this cartoon and shut these people down every time now. And hey, we might get a cool cartoon as well!
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Jul 18, 2018 21:49
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I love how much their life is based around hate, they hate it so they can't stop themselves from focusing on it instead of, I don't know, finding something they like and focusing on that. Then again, it's not like they have a lot of media that fits in their world view, as "Mr. Don't give a poo poo, except about killing things not rich, white, and male," doesn't sell too well.
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Jul 19, 2018 02:23
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ToastyPotato posted:This redesign of She-Ra is the best thing that could have happened at the best time because if loving slam dunks on these assholes and definitively proves that they have never had a point. People will forever only need to point to this cartoon and shut these people down every time now. And hey, we might get a cool cartoon as well! I extra love it because this weekend is just going to explode with all the western animation stuff for the near future and it's filled to the brim with shows lead by women and/or poc. TMNT is lead by Raph who is voiced by a black man, Avengers Assemble is now the Black Panther show, Dragon Ball is now including Broly who wears tight purple leggings so that'll ruffle feathers, there's Noelle Stevenson's She-Ra, then there's the entire concept of Marvel Rising. And Infinity Train, a female-lead show. And Victor & Valentino about two mexican brothers. Maybe a trailer for Owl House, too.
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Jul 19, 2018 02:28
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Anora posted:I love how much their life is based around hate, they hate it so they can't stop themselves from focusing on it instead of, I don't know, finding something they like and focusing on that. Then again, it's not like they have a lot of media that fits in their world view, as "Mr. Don't give a poo poo, except about killing things not rich, white, and male," doesn't sell too well. The culture war has many fronts.
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Jul 19, 2018 02:43
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With respect to Broly and Dragonball Super, I do feel like I remember people complaining about the essentially female version of him they added earlier (I don't remember her name.) That said, I am not really part of any DB or anime communities, so I only really got bits and pieces of opinions on the matter. I also haven't got up to those episodes in the show so I don't even know what her deal is yet.
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Jul 19, 2018 02:46
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ToastyPotato posted:With respect to Broly and Dragonball Super, I do feel like I remember people complaining about the essentially female version of him they added earlier (I don't remember her name.) That said, I am not really part of any DB or anime communities, so I only really got bits and pieces of opinions on the matter. I also haven't got up to those episodes in the show so I don't even know what her deal is yet. Kale. Her name was Kale, and she and her "big sis" Caulifla ruffled quite a few feathers as I recall as well. She's basically the Gohan of universe 6. She's timid and not good at confrontation and has an explosive temper that unleashes her berserker form. And Caulifla gleefully throws her into the fray multiple times.
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Jul 19, 2018 05:20
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So people got mad that they added some legit female characters to the show for the first time in decades?
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Jul 19, 2018 05:24
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Yep. Caulifla and Kale even had an amazing fight against Goku and even when they're losing it looked amazing. They're a breath of fresh air as the series needs way more female representation. Even the Kamikaze Fireballs are welcome despite being Sailor Moon-ish.
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Jul 19, 2018 05:30
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ToastyPotato posted:So people got mad that they added some legit female characters to the show for the first time in decades? It's possible people hate the character because she's terrible (not likely given the fan base, but possible). I thought Marissa's surfer boyfriend in season 3 of The OC was loving insufferable, and not even in a villain you love to hate kinda way that soap operas do a lot (Oliver from the first season for instance).
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Jul 19, 2018 05:32
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ToastyPotato posted:So people got mad that they added some legit female characters to the show for the first time in decades? People have hid behind the excuses that their climb to power was rushed or somehow ruined forms that haven’t been relevant in the series for... what, 20+ years? And it’s far from the series’ worst flaws (everything with Trunks’ arc is atrocious but excused due to nostalgia.) That’s not to say they’re all necessarily whining chuds in this case, just that Dragonball fans harp on irrelevant poo poo that doesn’t matter a lot.
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So they're making a new She-Ra? I never watched the original but I was considering it because it was recommended on the same Amazon page as Jem & the Holograms. Since I liked Jem and figured She-Ra would be kinda the same thing, I thought about buying it. Never did because I had other things to spend my money on than some series I had only vague interest in but maybe I'll look into it. I would like to contrast this new series with the old, like contrasting the Jem comic with the old cartoon.
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She-Ra and Jem are pretty similar in tone, yeah. I've been watching She-Ra on Netflix lately and it's super fun, cheesy, schlocky garbage. Melendy Britt, the VA who plays She-Ra and Princess Adora, plays like eight characters on the show and having to do a unique voice for all of them quickly exhausts her repertoire, so there are several C-list villain lieutenants voiced by her who sound like they're constantly having a stroke. There is a powerful sorceress named Casta Spella. She-Ra is insanely strong, always wins, has a Silver Age Superman-esque variety of powers, and most commonly beats villains by picking up the nearest absurdly heavy object and throwing it at them. Episode by episode the things she throws include: - A mountain. - An entire lake, lakebed and all, which she cuts out of the landscape with her sword. - A gigantic airborne battlecruiser, which she flies underneath, tips all the soldiers out of, and then hurls into a volcano. It's super cheesy and weird and fun. It's definitely watchable if you like sugary idiot trash that's lowkey hilarious. Also, some of the painted backgrounds are really nice.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:People have hid behind the excuses that their climb to power was rushed or somehow ruined forms that haven’t been relevant in the series for... what, 20+ years? And it’s far from the series’ worst flaws (everything with Trunks’ arc is atrocious but excused due to nostalgia.) That's not just limited to Dragon Ball fans. It's this weird mindset about how a new character becoming powerful or prominent is not "earned." People talk about it like it's the wrestling world where someone getting a push means other people don't get a push and this idea about merit due to length of being there. It's all stories, writers can decide someone is powerful and or important and that is it.
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Abroham Lincoln posted:(everything with Trunks’ arc is atrocious but excused due to nostalgia.) I’ll admit the very end sucked, and they time traveled once or twice too many, but Trunks’ arc is generally considered the best arc in Super. Why didn’t you like it?
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Android Blues posted:
I'm already on board with this but I'll watch 100% of the new episodes if they keep this Terraforming She-Ra
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The Question IRL posted:That's not just limited to Dragon Ball fans. It's this weird mindset about how a new character becoming powerful or prominent is not "earned." I feel like with Dragonball specifically though, that mindset is absolutely unacceptable. The entire series is literally defined by, "here is a new character, they are more powerful than the previous."
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Some fans had a problem with Kale because she's essentially Brolly so they thought "why didn't you just add Brolly". There are good reasons of course why they shouldn't have added Brolly but that seemed to me to be part of the hate the character got.
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Lobok posted:Some fans had a problem with Kale because she's essentially Brolly so they thought "why didn't you just add Brolly". There are good reasons of course why they shouldn't have added Brolly but that seemed to me to be part of the hate the character got. Well it looks like they literally got their wish, which will send a very good message...
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Jul 19, 2018 17:37
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ToastyPotato posted:Well it looks like they literally got their wish, which will send a very good message... I'm glad they didn't have him in the Tournament arc of the Super series. But having him in his own movie is fine.
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here's something new for nerds to get mad about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPgNQMUjr8M
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Lobok posted:I'm glad they didn't have him in the Tournament arc of the Super series. But having him in his own movie is fine. I was pretty down on the idea of the movie being about Broly but after the trailer I'm sold. This is easily the best Dragon Ball has ever looked animation wise. https://youtu.be/FHgm89hKpXU Posting on mobile, can't get it to embed. I also get a strong feeling that they're going to completely change his motivation from the original version of the character, so that does a lot to fix him.
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Why are we talkin' about Dragonball.Synthbuttrange posted:here's something new for nerds to get mad about That is a very ugly-looking cartoon.
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Synthbuttrange posted:here's something new for nerds to get mad about Bold of you to assume nerds are ever not mad.
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Lurdiak posted:Why are we talkin' about Dragonball. The Cartoon is very well animated and energetic even if I am not crazy about the design.
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MonsterEnvy posted:The Cartoon is very well animated I mean it isn't. It's obviously using very minimal frames of animation and looks to be made in whatever replaced Flash.
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Jul 20, 2018 13:11
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Looks very snappy and some cuts are really smooth and exciting. The color palette is excellent, too.
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Jul 20, 2018 13:13
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Lurdiak posted:I mean it isn't. It's obviously using very minimal frames of animation and looks to be made in whatever replaced Flash. You sure cause every clip I have seen look super smooth and snappy.
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All I'm saying is I wouldn't use the word "smooth" to describe this.
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Lurdiak posted:All I'm saying is I wouldn't use the word "smooth" to describe this. They’re talking about Dragon Ball. Read the quoted posts. Also, Dragon Ball is a manga, aka a comic for you bakas, so it’s “comic book animation.”
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Nanigans posted:They’re talking about Dragon Ball. Read the quoted posts. No they're not.
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Lurdiak posted:All I'm saying is I wouldn't use the word "smooth" to describe this. smooth as a shark, baby
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Turtles: The smoothest of beasts.
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What I'm really grumpy about is that I kinda dig a lot of that, despite the fact that I should be hating all this visually busy junk. I don't like that Leo though. Can they replace him with April?
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SlothfulCobra posted:What I'm really grumpy about is that I kinda dig a lot of that, despite the fact that I should be hating all this visually busy junk. For some reason they swapped Leo and Ralph's personalities, which isn't a big deal, but will be confusing to any kids who watch it then watch anything else turtle related.
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Skwirl posted:For some reason they swapped Leo and Ralph's personalities, which isn't a big deal, but will be confusing to any kids who watch it then watch anything else turtle related. They just wanted to make Partners In Kryme retroactively correct.
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Synthbuttrange posted:here's something new for nerds to get mad about I like it. I like when the turtles have differences in their designs to show off their personality, ala the cg series and yeah it’s energetic as hell
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https://twitter.com/straczynski/status/1020075585748389889?s=19
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I think that TMNT trailer looks fine. But maybe I am just super burned out by the crappy DC animated movies and the Marvel animated shows being bland and stiff as gently caress. My baseline is, does it look better than most 90s cartoons? Then it's good enough. I feel like most the the recent DC and Marvel stuff fails that test. lmao
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First trailer for YJ: Outsiders. http://ew.com/tv/2018/07/20/young-justice-outsiders-season-3-first-look/
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