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oh no its even more bullshit than gdpr. its just straight up "wahhhh americans are so much better than us so we have to penalize them for it" without even pretending to be about something real.
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android antitrust e.g. the same thing that should be happening in the us, and would be if this were the 90s
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Jul 18, 2018 14:26
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it shouldn't because its as much of a non-issue as it was when the doj went after Microsoft in the 90s
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Jul 18, 2018 14:29
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infernal machines posted:android antitrust it isn't even the worst offense either. this is just google requiring their apps and search bar be included but the real slam dunk anti-trust violation is the anti-fragmentation clause which prohibits an OEM from making both an Android(tm) device stuffed with google poo poo and an AOSP device or anything remotely compatible with android.
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Jul 18, 2018 14:31
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looking forward to the $50 billion gdpr fine in three years
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Jul 18, 2018 14:36
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i'm rotting away waiting
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Shaggar posted:it shouldn't because its as much of a non-issue as it was when the doj went after Microsoft in the 90s slick billy made a dirty deal with the feds trust no windows oh dear god they're on to me
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Jul 18, 2018 14:45
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all corporations should constantly be fined into oblivion e: guillotine the c-levels, gulag the managers
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Jul 18, 2018 15:13
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Shifty Pony posted:it isn't even the worst offense either. this is just google requiring their apps and search bar be included but the real slam dunk anti-trust violation is the anti-fragmentation clause which prohibits an OEM from making both an Android(tm) device stuffed with google poo poo and an AOSP device or anything remotely compatible with android. goons in 2011: lol anroid is insanely fragmented, what a joke goons in 2018: google is being fined for trying to stop fragmentation and that's a good thing i just use a pager and a sharp zaurus smdh phone-havers
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Jul 18, 2018 15:32
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gently caress Google also I legit used to use a sharp zaurus (sl series)
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Jul 18, 2018 15:37
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Pham Nuwen posted:goons in 2011: lol anroid is insanely fragmented, what a joke google is poo poo and both the cause of and solution to this problem is loving terrible and bad
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Jul 18, 2018 15:38
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Silver Alicorn posted:gently caress Google the one with the slide-down keyboard? those were the coolest loving things. early 2000s I was just sure the next thing they'd do was stick cell phone hardware in there because being a little nerdly teen I was ahead of the game in mostly wanting a little computer that could occasionally act as a telephone. i never got to play with one outside of a store. did you try developing for it at all?
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Jul 18, 2018 15:46
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mrmcd posted:My Pixel phone has developed a strange curse. Now, no matter what usb-c charging device I plug into it, instead of the charging battery indicator showing up, the male usb-c plug gets extremely hot and a strong scent of burning metal and chemicals is noticeable. "other than that it works great!"
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Jul 18, 2018 15:49
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Krankenstyle posted:all corporations should constantly be fined into oblivion serious question, who would you like to take as a packed lunch out of siberia as a "walking supply" like, if you had to eat part of them but keep them on their feet until you got hungry again?
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Jul 18, 2018 15:56
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Pham Nuwen posted:the one with the slide-down keyboard? those were the coolest loving things. early 2000s I was just sure the next thing they'd do was stick cell phone hardware in there because being a little nerdly teen I was ahead of the game in mostly wanting a little computer that could occasionally act as a telephone. yep ! I had an sl-5500 and later imported an sl-c1000. I always wanted to develop for them but I’m only a pretend programmer. I did get gngeo to compile on the sl-c1000 though so I could play puzzle bobble and neo turf masters (roms had to fit in memory, so they had to be smaller) there were hella os projects for the sl-cxxx series, I mostly settled on one called pdaXrom. I could run Firefox and OpenOffice on it 
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Jul 18, 2018 16:02
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syscall girl posted:serious question, who would you like to take as a packed lunch out of siberia as a "walking supply" idk im not a manager
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Jul 18, 2018 16:04
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it’s possible for both of these things to be true: google’s anti-fragmentation clause is anti-competitive and should be punished. the eu can’t compete in tech and has decided to tax American companies with excessive and bullshit antitrust fines.
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Jul 18, 2018 16:06
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syscall girl posted:serious question, who would you like to take as a packed lunch out of siberia as a "walking supply" steve ballmer looks like he's got a lot of meat on him while not being so fat as to be unable to walk miles across the steppes. he's also old enough that i could probably overpower him when the time comes. i'd get the most joy from eating zuck but 1. he's tiny so not much food, 2. i'm not sure his alien body chemistry is compatible with my digestive system
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Jul 18, 2018 16:12
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syscall girl posted:serious question, who would you like to take as a packed lunch out of siberia as a "walking supply" I think this question is a bit bloodthirsty and macabre tbh
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Jul 18, 2018 16:13
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Sapozhnik posted:I think this question is a bit bloodthirsty and macabre tbh then i retract the word "like" that is indeed not cool just out of necessity like some kind of Alive poo poo but ya know, escaping a siberian gulag, maybe it's even someone you like but you think you can't outrun the bear but you can outrun dmitri that sort of thing practical stuff
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Jul 18, 2018 16:29
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it's a hypothetical like, how are you going to get out of this blender? you want to work at google right? how do you get out of the blender? you have, uhm 20 seconds until i make the moscow mule
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Jul 18, 2018 16:32
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syscall girl posted:it's a hypothetical like, how are you going to get out of this blender? you want to work at google right? surely it'd be a Bloody Larry in this particular situation
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Jul 18, 2018 17:14
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Pham Nuwen posted:surely it'd be a Bloody Larry in this particular situation so you climb over him? i mean harsh, but fair
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Jul 18, 2018 17:40
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Sapozhnik posted:I think this question is a bit bloodthirsty and macabre tbh also, again Sapozhnik, sorry I've been going 48+ and I'm not really liking life right now and I still have a while to go so excuse the gross humor i know it's not for everyone
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Jul 18, 2018 17:41
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ima shut my fat mouf and get back to *shudder* work
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Jul 18, 2018 17:42
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Pham Nuwen posted:goons in 2011: lol anroid is insanely fragmented, what a joke the anti-fragmentation clause has been in place since the beginning of Android. as we have seen it is at best marginally effective at preventing fragmentation of Android versions and devices but exceptionally effective at preventing fragmentation of google's ability to hoover-up data and serve ads. The Management posted:it’s possible for both of these things to be true: yep. if the end goal is a competitive market the proper response to Google's Android-related anti-trust poo poo is not to fine google or require them to allow different search engines but instead to start completely stripping all ownership and control of android and the play store from google. the market damage has largely already been done and google will just find a way around lesser punishments.
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Jul 18, 2018 19:06
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Lol what market damage. Competition is a lie and all the eu native operating systems deserved to die.
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build red star os with the various postmarketos changes to it and run plasma mobile, imo
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Blue Train posted:build red star os with the various postmarketos changes to it and run plasma mobile, imo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzS0Id_HSWA
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fishmech posted:Lol what market damage. Competition is a lie and all the eu native operating systems deserved to die. base OS competition was never gonna happen and would be stupid but if google hadn't used the anti-fragmentation clause to force their apps and the play store as the default with front and center placement on every single android device not in China it is pretty likely that those niches would be taken by a variety of regional services, probably clustered by language. China is kind of an artificial example, although google was getting its rear end kicked in search before it was forced out of the county so it is possible something similar would have happened in phones. at the very least you'd likely end up with more uniform and robust messaging built in as regions settled into a preferred service. of course you'd probably just end up with someone like Facebook buying all of the resulting clusters like they did when WhatsApp beat Messenger adoption.
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Shifty Pony posted:base OS competition was never gonna happen and would be stupid but if google hadn't used the anti-fragmentation clause to force their apps and the play store as the default with front and center placement on every single android device not in China it is pretty likely that those niches would be taken by a variety of regional services, probably clustered by language. Ah yes the wonderful world of bootleg app stores, that's what the eu should enforce
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Jul 18, 2018 20:00
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antitrust lawsuits are good and google should be broken up android is already broken so nothing to do there
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google should be banned from doing business in the eu and the rest of the world
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Zamujasa posted:antitrust lawsuits are good and google should be broken up nah google's penalty should be to be forced to support every product they release for 10 years
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hobbesmaster posted:google's penalty should be to be forced to support every product they release for 10 years
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prohibition on the development and release of any new messaging clients until they are in compliance.
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Jul 18, 2018 21:40
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hobbesmaster posted:nah this would just end up with every goog product turning into youtube, where useful poo poo is removed constantly and the ux only gets worse
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Zamujasa posted:this would just end up with every goog product turning into youtube, where useful poo poo is removed constantly and the ux only gets worse so business as usual
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Took the July security update for my pixel, the next day it started rebooting every 5 minutes, forcing me to do a factory reset. After it offered to restore from a cloud backup it claimed was only 50 minutes old but it only restored half of my apps. Apple pls hurry up and announce the iPhone refreshes so I can decide which one to order.
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jit bull transpile posted:Took the July security update for my pixel, the next day it started rebooting every 5 minutes, forcing me to do a factory reset. After it offered to restore from a cloud backup it claimed was only 50 minutes old but it only restored half of my apps. probably has a geofenced self destruct tied to apple's campus
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