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Rutibex posted:Does any other game offer battles as large as EVE? The biggest PvP games I can think of are something like PUBG with like 100 people in a match. Albion Online, zones are capped at 300 but there was a battle recently that had 1000+ deaths over one hour due to respawns and load-ins.
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I have no idea why I have chosen right now in my life to play EVE but I just started. Is it actually worth it to do all these career path tutorial missions or are all the rewards things I could just buy with all the isk I'd be making from doing actual things
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Rutibex posted:Does any other game offer battles as large as EVE? The biggest PvP games I can think of are something like PUBG with like 100 people in a match. Planetside & Planetside 2 can get close. Though iirc PS2 has some sort of dynamic splitting when there are too many people in one location so you can't actually see 1000 people on the screen. RazzleDazzleHour posted:I have no idea why I have chosen right now in my life to play EVE but I just started. Is it actually worth it to do all these career path tutorial missions or are all the rewards things I could just buy with all the isk I'd be making from doing actual things the rewards are completely trivial. the tutorial part may be worth your time depending on your tolerance for absorbing info-dumps from other places.
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Jul 19, 2018 18:01
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I'm upset that TiDi stole an ISRAD killmail from me.  I Specifically didn't shoot the primary cause this dude was just burning off all by himself.
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Jul 19, 2018 18:09
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GMG has a sale on the Galaxy package for 60% off giving you 5x skill extractors, 2x multi train certs, 1100 plex and 3 months Omega for $40. I'm about 6 weeks old, at around 1.8m SP and have no idea what I should keep, sell or if I should liquidate everything for large injectors so I can use Omega things now. Its like 7b isk to blow everything out and at around 740m per injector, that would be a ton of time saved even if I only did like the extractors and plex. I realize this is probably a bad place for serious advice - but I trust you guys more than Jita Local. Note: some of you guys
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Micromancer posted:GMG has a sale on the Galaxy package for 60% off giving you 5x skill extractors, 2x multi train certs, 1100 plex and 3 months Omega for $40. I'm about 6 weeks old, at around 1.8m SP and have no idea what I should keep, sell or if I should liquidate everything for large injectors so I can use Omega things now. Its like 7b isk to blow everything out and at around 740m per injector, that would be a ton of time saved even if I only did like the extractors and plex. I realize this is probably a bad place for serious advice - but I trust you guys more than Jita Local. Do not spend that ISK on skill injectors! Take the 7b isk and invest it in money making operations. You need isk to make isk in EVE, so don't blow through your starting capital on drugs. I bought a similar package that gave me 4b isk to start off with. Instead of spending it on skill injectors and shiny modules I used it to buy poo poo on the market and resell it. Now I am over 55b and I can buy skill injectors and stuff like that without hurting my ability in invest.
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Rutibex posted:Do not spend that ISK on skill injectors! Take the 7b isk and invest it in money making operations. You need isk to make isk in EVE, so don't blow through your starting capital on drugs. I bought a similar package that gave me 4b isk to start off with. Instead of spending it on skill injectors and shiny modules I used it to buy poo poo on the market and resell it. Now I am over 55b and I can buy skill injectors and stuff like that without hurting my ability in invest. So blow it all out for cash on hand to play the market. I started out recovering loss of frigates and such for the first couple weeks by market hauling. Was the only days I ended positive growth for the day
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Jul 19, 2018 20:33
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Micromancer posted:So blow it all out for cash on hand to play the market. I started out recovering loss of frigates and such for the first couple weeks by market hauling. Was the only days I ended positive growth for the day It's important to have lots of starting capital, because the commodities with the best margins and least competition are very expensive. Implants are very good to trade for profit. Some implants go for over 1b, but you can pick them up for like 800m, so you end up making 100m+ (after taxes) on just two transactions. But the trick is you need to be able to sit on a 800m isk implant for a day or two before it sells. That means you need lots of liquid isk, because you can end up trading dozens of the things at once.
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Jul 19, 2018 21:08
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Sounds good. Im going to reserve around 4b for market flipping and inject my way to fitting a Stratios for exploration. That way I can hopefully earn some cash WH-ing while orders tick. Will also pull double duty finishing off the monthly event which has been pretty good for loot so far.
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Micromancer posted:Sounds good. Im going to reserve around 4b for market flipping and inject my way to fitting a Stratios for exploration. That way I can hopefully earn some cash WH-ing while orders tick. Will also pull double duty finishing off the monthly event which has been pretty good for loot so far. You don't need a Stratios for doing wormhole exploration. You can very easily make money at that in a T1 frigate, or an Astero if you want to splurge. Fit one with combat probes, them you can scan for lost drones as well. You can make lots finding lost Gheckos and T2 drones that people leave around. Skill injectors are a major waste of money unless you are really rich. You get 4x as many skill points if you buy PLEX and wait for the training to finish.
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Jul 19, 2018 21:37
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:albion online, the game that has pvp fatigue due to hiring the guy who added jump fatigue to eve albion beta was great, then they unironically hired greyscale who implemented sec status (pvp fatigue) to the world, and if you go to low it stops you from entering lowsec at all, where 90% of the players exist. also the game where devs unironically morale posted about how the game definitely isn't dying, and that the massive exodus of players was expected and normal
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1001 Arabian dicks posted:Eve Online
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Jul 20, 2018 01:58
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Haha, TEST anchored another one. Crazy bastards. My GF is still pissed at me for the late night yelling last night, and was glad I had sworn off this lame rear end game for good. She's gonna be even angrier when I tell her that I'm gonna do it again.
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Micromancer posted:GMG has a sale on the Galaxy package for 60% off giving you 5x skill extractors, 2x multi train certs, 1100 plex and 3 months Omega for $40. I'm about 6 weeks old, at around 1.8m SP and have no idea what I should keep, sell or if I should liquidate everything for large injectors so I can use Omega things now. Its like 7b isk to blow everything out and at around 740m per injector, that would be a ton of time saved even if I only did like the extractors and plex. I realize this is probably a bad place for serious advice - but I trust you guys more than Jita Local. Don't just dump this here and not link it https://www.greenmangaming.com/games/eve-online-galaxy-pack-pc/ DrHammond posted:Haha, TEST anchored another one. at this point, either recruit her in, or 
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DrHammond posted:Haha, TEST anchored another one. You're an inconsiderate loving retard and when she gets rid of your dumbass imma laugh.
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She's actually super supportive but is NOW yelling at me that I lied to you guys about that. So yeah, you're right.
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DrHammond posted:Haha, TEST anchored another one. Truthishly, keepstars aren't that expensive. There are a number of gankers I know that could drop 6 before they really felt the pain (of having less than 500b isk). I watched the stream last night. I almost logged in for the armor move op. Good for test. Good for the game.
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Kilonum posted:Don't just dump this here and not link it Is there a way to check to see if you've already had that pack?
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It was a bait keepstar to get PL trapped
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CainFortea posted:Is there a way to check to see if you've already had that pack? If you login to https://secure.eveonline.com and click on the DLC tab you'll see this if you've had any of the packs before 
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Kilonum posted:Don't just dump this here and not link it I don't know why it didn't occur to me to even do it, my bad :/
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So since I've got a good amount of mining gear, I decided to invest my time in that. Just did my first successful trip in high sec, got a ship full of Condensed Scordite worth like 500k total. Thinking about how to maximize my profit however, and I noticed that raw ore sells for a lot more than refining it. Additionally, I thought I might be able to get more out of it by selling to a player, but I don't see anyone on the market willing to buy for more than the base price of selling it to the station. What's the best way to get the bang for my buck out of mining, or should I just flip this low-level stuff as quickly as possible so I can build up enough capital to ramp thing up with a better freighter? Should I be looking for some blueprints to convert my minerals into products to sell, or should I switch to a different activity entirely until I'm better able to explore lowsec and protect myself while mining?
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:What's the best way to get the bang for my buck out of mining The answer to this question is to get out of highsec. Seriously even if you join pandemic horde (which is not a suggestion) you'll be doing 100 times better than you are now. If you are absolutely dead set on the life of a highsec miner, the reason refining it would give you such poo poo returns is that you probably don't have perfect refines, which is what the highsec market baselines their values on.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:So since I've got a good amount of mining gear, I decided to invest my time in that. Just did my first successful trip in high sec, got a ship full of Condensed Scordite worth like 500k total. Thinking about how to maximize my profit however, and I noticed that raw ore sells for a lot more than refining it. Additionally, I thought I might be able to get more out of it by selling to a player, but I don't see anyone on the market willing to buy for more than the base price of selling it to the station. What's the best way to get the bang for my buck out of mining, or should I just flip this low-level stuff as quickly as possible so I can build up enough capital to ramp thing up with a better freighter? like, if you actually enjoy mining you could be running around goonspace with your cute little venture and mining mercoxit worth 10x that. quote:Should I be looking for some blueprints to convert my minerals into products to sell, quote:or should I switch to a different activity entirely until I'm better able to explore lowsec and protect myself while mining?
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:So since I've got a good amount of mining gear, I decided to invest my time in that. Just did my first successful trip in high sec, got a ship full of Condensed Scordite worth like 500k total. Thinking about how to maximize my profit however, and I noticed that raw ore sells for a lot more than refining it. Additionally, I thought I might be able to get more out of it by selling to a player, but I don't see anyone on the market willing to buy for more than the base price of selling it to the station. What's the best way to get the bang for my buck out of mining, or should I just flip this low-level stuff as quickly as possible so I can build up enough capital to ramp thing up with a better freighter? Should I be looking for some blueprints to convert my minerals into products to sell, or should I switch to a different activity entirely until I'm better able to explore lowsec and protect myself while mining? This is like driving for Uber while you have a job offer where you could make 100k a year doing almost nothing. I don’t understand why you asked us for advice and then literally continued to do the least profitable and most unfun possible activity.
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:So since I've got a good amount of mining gear, I decided to invest my time in that. Just did my first successful trip in high sec, got a ship full of Condensed Scordite worth like 500k total. Thinking about how to maximize my profit however, and I noticed that raw ore sells for a lot more than refining it. Additionally, I thought I might be able to get more out of it by selling to a player, but I don't see anyone on the market willing to buy for more than the base price of selling it to the station. What's the best way to get the bang for my buck out of mining, or should I just flip this low-level stuff as quickly as possible so I can build up enough capital to ramp thing up with a better freighter? Should I be looking for some blueprints to convert my minerals into products to sell, or should I switch to a different activity entirely until I'm better able to explore lowsec and protect myself while mining? Lol 500k. My man, get the hell out of high sec and come down to Delve. You could litteraly be making several orders of magnitude more doing anything else. You would make more begging in Jita for handouts.
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Yeah I didn't do a highsec run because I thought it was actually a good idea, I just needed some cash to get some defense drones so I could fight off NPCs while still being able to equip two mining lasers. It was like 30 mins of time while I ate lunch. I tried to go lowsec before resorting to that but you can't get away with not having a weapon to shoot down NPCs so I ended up having to come back and change plans and get those drones. SpaceSDoorGunner posted:I don’t understand why you asked us for advice and then literally continued to do the least profitable and most unfun possible activity. What the hell are you talking about
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Man, I remember when I first started playing, BoodaBooda gave me 10M isk on my 2nd day and I felt like the space-richest motherfucking newbro in the world. I made that money stretch for WEEKS. Do you have any idea how many T1 tackle rifters 10M buys? I didn't even have to use TEST_FREE, unlike those other poor proles. Saving up for a flight of drones, ridiculously cute. Thanks for reminding me what it's like to be hilariously poor in this game.
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DrHammond posted:Man, I remember when I first started playing, BoodaBooda gave me 10M isk on my 2nd day and I felt like the space-richest motherfucking newbro in the world. I made that money stretch for WEEKS. Do you have any idea how many T1 tackle rifters 10M buys? I didn't even have to use TEST_FREE, unlike those other poor proles. I remember saving up for my first cruiser. I mined pyroxeres in a Navitas (its wasn't a armor repping frigate at the time, and the Venture didn't exist). I would mine everything into a jet can then go back to the station to pick up my Iteron Mark III and get the ores. It took me a while but I eventually earned enough to buy a Thorax! I felt invincible in such a powerful ship, it was amazing.
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Rutibex posted:I remember saving up for my first cruiser. I mined pyroxeres in a Navitas (its wasn't a armor repping frigate at the time, and the Venture didn't exist). I would mine everything into a jet can then go back to the station to pick up my Iteron Mark III and get the ores. It took me a while but I eventually earned enough to buy a Thorax! I felt invincible in such a powerful ship, it was amazing. I bet it was fit like absolute dogshit too.
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orange juche posted:I bet it was fit like absolute dogshit too. Yep even peak mining was an apoc with 8 miner 2s, which if I remember correctly was the only tech 2 item back then
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Kilonum posted:Don't just dump this here and not link it How long do you think that'll stay at that price?
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orange juche posted:I bet it was fit like absolute dogshit too. I had a Prototype Cloaking Device on my Thorax, because I planned to hide in asteroid belts and PvP noobs 
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Rutibex posted:I had a Prototype Cloaking Device on my Thorax, because I planned to hide in asteroid belts and PvP noobs Not paying attention to the decloak recalibration timer which prevents this exact thing. More likely you would have decloaked and then been PvPed because you were a noob.
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