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Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless
I find roman emperor Maximinus Thrax interesting solely based on the fact that his reported height was 8'6". I'm guessing there is some extreme exaggeration there, but he does look like he had gigantism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_Thrax

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Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Crazycryodude posted:

Yeah Teddy was one of the least bad US Presidents. Basically none of them have ever actually been good, but there's about a dozen that I wouldn't immediately have shot for being total asses and Teddy is one of them. He did kinda steal Panama but he also ended the war in the Philippines and lots of other decent stuff so, yeah, nobody's perfect but he's cool.

i guess he was ok if you only give a poo poo about white people

edit: oh also non-disabled people since he was into eugenics

Kanine has a new favorite as of 06:22 on Jul 20, 2018

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Kanine posted:

i guess he was ok if you only give a poo poo about white people

edit: oh also non-disabled people since he was into eugenics

You really want to be sad then realize he absolutely was fairly progressive compared to his contemporaries who believed that poo poo and worse.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003

Say Nothing posted:

I find roman emperor Maximinus Thrax interesting solely based on the fact that his reported height was 8'6". I'm guessing there is some extreme exaggeration there, but he does look like he had gigantism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_Thrax






Emperor G'kar!

Antioch has a new favorite as of 07:07 on Jul 20, 2018

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

Say Nothing posted:

I find roman emperor Maximinus Thrax interesting solely based on the fact that his reported height was 8'6". I'm guessing there is some extreme exaggeration there, but he does look like he had gigantism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_Thrax



And its not like feet have changed much since his days, but we'll never be sure

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Milo and POTUS posted:

You really want to be sad then realize he absolutely was fairly progressive compared to his contemporaries who believed that poo poo and worse.

He was progressive in his time. He was the first president to invite an African-American person to dine at the White House for example (Booker T. Washington), and the blowback was so extreme he was never able to do so again.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Solice Kirsk posted:

Maybe not, but I would pay $100 extra dollars to guarantee there are no children on the flight.

I do something similar with Gold Class in movies. Nothing against kids but they're noisy buggers. Also, can drink wine.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

Former DILF posted:

And its not like feet have changed much since his days, but we'll never be sure

Someone must have messed up the units, it's like Goliath's height being either 6'9" or 9'9".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goliath#Goliath's_height

ishikabibble
Jan 21, 2012

Former DILF posted:

And its not like feet have changed much since his days, but we'll never be sure

Feet have actually changed :eng101:

There's a theory that Napoleon was actually 5'7" and the depiction of him as small in stature is due to a difference in the French and English inches. The French inch was longer, so a French foot was 33cm, while an English foot was 30cm. This resulted in his official height being reported as 5'2", which the British press took and ran with because it was short for someone of aristocracy or a military officer.

...Mind you that height came from when he was measured in a British prison, but that's besides this point :v:

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Milo and POTUS posted:

You really want to be sad then realize he absolutely was fairly progressive compared to his contemporaries who believed that poo poo and worse.

and extremely conservative compared to his contemporaries who didn't believe that poo poo or worse (decent people)

Kanine
Aug 5, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pick posted:

He was progressive in his time. He was the first president to invite an African-American person to dine at the White House for example (Booker T. Washington), and the blowback was so extreme he was never able to do so again.

so like a good liberal he made a single attempt at being progressive on an issue and then let conservatives push him to back down, and in the end he was fine but minorities still lost in the end like they always do

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

ishikabibble posted:

Feet have actually changed :eng101:

There's a theory that Napoleon was actually 5'7" and the depiction of him as small in stature is due to a difference in the French and English inches. The French inch was longer, so a French foot was 33cm, while an English foot was 30cm. This resulted in his official height being reported as 5'2", which the British press took and ran with because it was short for someone of aristocracy or a military officer.

...Mind you that height came from when he was measured in a British prison, but that's besides this point :v:

Supposedly there was also the issue that Napoleon was commonly seen and depicted in the company of his unit of Imperial Guard grenadiers, who were selected in part on the basis of strength and height. Even a guy of normal stature will look small when he's constantly surrounded by huge buff dudes wearing giant hats. :v:

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Kanine posted:

and extremely conservative compared to his contemporaries who didn't believe that poo poo or worse (decent people)
Sure you may say this, but name me any five of those contemporaries and I'd like to ask you: What were their stances on LGBT issues?

Philippe
Aug 9, 2013

(she/her)

The French also called Napoleon "the little Colonel" as a term of endearment, which compounded matters.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Kanine posted:

i guess he was ok if you only give a poo poo about white people

edit: oh also non-disabled people since he was into eugenics

Yeah fair enough, tbh US presidents by the very nature of the office/country have been universally trash and I'd shoot every single one of them (uh, obviously excepting the five still alive today, and particularly the current president) if the Revolution came, I just wasn't sure if I could actually say that out loud in PYF and not get chased off.

E: Edited so Lowtax doesn't get another Secret Service visit

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Maximinus Thrax - Fullback - Chicago Bears 230-238 AD

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Say Nothing posted:

I find roman emperor Maximinus Thrax interesting solely based on the fact that his reported height was 8'6". I'm guessing there is some extreme exaggeration there, but he does look like he had gigantism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_Thrax



Uh, are we just going to gloss over that his name was "Max Thrax"? That's a name I'd expect for the protagonist of an Apogee shareware sidescroller.

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



Say Nothing posted:

I find roman emperor Maximinus Thrax interesting solely based on the fact that his reported height was 8'6". I'm guessing there is some extreme exaggeration there, but he does look like he had gigantism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximinus_Thrax



Michael Shannon?

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 14 hours!

Crazycryodude posted:

Yeah fair enough, tbh US presidents by the very nature of the office/country have been universally trash and I'd shoot every single one of them (uh, obviously excepting the five still alive today, and particularly the current president) if the Revolution came, I just wasn't sure if I could actually say that out loud in PYF and not get chased off.

E: Edited so Lowtax doesn't get another Secret Service visit

O yeah, well i would totally kill them all and that proves my moral superiority wank wank wank

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





ishikabibble posted:

Feet have actually changed :eng101:

There's a theory that Napoleon was actually 5'7" and the depiction of him as small in stature is due to a difference in the French and English inches. The French inch was longer, so a French foot was 33cm, while an English foot was 30cm.

More specifically, Revolutionary French defined the meter as 1 ten millionths of the distance between the North Pole and the Equator through Paris. This definition came out of a period in history when countries were making early forays into the idea of adopting a universal metric system for use amongst themselves not unlike our modern SI system - the Americans and English were supposed to be in on this definition too but no mutual agreement could be reached at the time so the French definition was essentially only used in France. Bizarrely, while Napoleon himself liked having a fully standardized system for measurements he didn't care for the names of the new units, and so during his era the older, colloquial, better known unit terms were brought back but now redefined in exact terms by converting through the French definitions of the metric system.

It's my understanding the 5'2" measurement came from Napoleon's personal physician tho at the time of his autopsy so it's very likely to actually be 5 pieds 2 pouces rather than the British equivalents. It's reasonably likely no one bothered to navigate all those conversion factors to translate and report the figure properly.

Crazycryodude posted:

Yeah Teddy was one of the least bad US Presidents. Basically none of them have ever actually been good, but there's about a dozen that I wouldn't immediately have shot for being total asses and Teddy is one of them. He did kinda steal Panama but he also ended the war in the Philippines and lots of other decent stuff so, yeah, nobody's perfect but he's cool.

In fact afaik he's usually ranked very solidly as the 4th greatest president of all time whenever academics or newspapers publish a list surveying prevailing opinion re: presidential rankings - fyi the top 4 are almost always some ordering of Lincoln, Washington, FDR, and Teddy, it's the race for 5th greatest where it usually gets more interesting with more varied responses.

Interestingly tho it's Andrew Jackson, someone who was reasonably controversial to begin with, whose legacy has most suffered with the changing of the times what with modern scholars looking back at his actions in office. He's been ripped out of sometimes being ranked inside the top 10 and has more recently been ranked as low as being within the bottom 5 worst in some more recent surveys.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



re: Jackson
causing the Trail of Tears will kind of reveal you as a piece of poo poo

also all presidents are subhuman by the needs of the office

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Fun fact I learned today was that after taking the Messines Ridge in 1917, the Allies ended up with around 5,000 German prisoners. What did they do to make sure they'd stay out of trouble? Cut their suspenders. So they had all these perturbed Germans holding their pants up with both hands.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



ww1 was a weird mishmash of adorable sweetness (the above, the christmas truce) and horrible massacres (all wars are obviously horrible, but the industrial revolution really did some to streamline the horror).

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Kanine posted:

and extremely conservative compared to his contemporaries who didn't believe that poo poo or worse (decent people)

Is this the point where we go cherry picking contemporaries because neither side wins in that case.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Krankenstyle posted:

ww1 was a weird mishmash of adorable sweetness (the above, the christmas truce) and horrible massacres (all wars are obviously horrible, but the industrial revolution really did some to streamline the horror).

There's another great story where the Allies were fighting alongside the Japanese, and the Japanese kept getting into trouble with friendly fire. All Europeans in uniforms looked the same to them! Their solution was to give the "good guys" kimonos to wear over their uniforms to differentiate them. It worked! There were no more incidences of friendly fire from them in that battle.

Then on the other end of the spectrum is the third battle of Ypres. *shudder*

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



The best poem I have ever read or heard (Wilfred Owen, Parable of the Young Man and the Old):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnrOcUep1Go&t=460s

Owen literally died one week before the armistice, having returned to the front from shell-shock (ptsd) treatment.

Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 06:23 on Jul 21, 2018

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

I'm guessing the latter is Hong Kong, I know the former is O'Hare -- got its code when the Army turned Orchard Place into a training field in WWII.

Speaking of airports, in a Doctor Who episode some years ago, the baddie stopped all the planes in midair. One of the news reports showed a 747 frozen screaming over Kowloon on short final into Kai Tak. Which closed in 1998, as my friend from HK who got me into the DW reboot was quick to point out. Seeing as the show was set next Tuesday, it was a bit incongruous if you know of the HK airports.

Carbon dioxide
Oct 9, 2012

https://twitter.com/calluna_/status/1020031158455848960

Check this twitter thread.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang




lol

im reminded of a police case I came across about "a leftenant walking openly in the street with his Hirschfänger exposed and no proper permit" (ca. 1820 iirc)

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Byzantine posted:

O yeah, well i would totally kill them all and that proves my moral superiority wank wank wank

I'd fight Lincoln

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

DicktheCat posted:

Fun fact I learned today was that after taking the Messines Ridge in 1917, the Allies ended up with around 5,000 German prisoners. What did they do to make sure they'd stay out of trouble? Cut their suspenders. So they had all these perturbed Germans holding their pants up with both hands.

Haha, I thought this was always just a joke from the most famous episode of Dad's Army.

(The one where they have to guard a captive German submarine crew and Lance Corporal Jones proposes cutting their trouser buttons off because, if they escaped, anyone who noticed a group of German sailors walking around town with their trousers around their ankles "might raise some inquiries").

Cavenagh
Oct 9, 2007

Grrrrrrrrr.

Oh, this is glorious.

Suggesting to the ex-military chemistry lecturer that the army only wear red because they are trying to make up for their lack of virility; getting into a fight with said chemistry lecturer in the university quad that two academic staff had to wade into and break up;

Them liberal socialist atheist professors

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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syscall girl posted:

I'd fight Lincoln
Historically speaking your only hope is to get the drop on him, possibly while shouting a snappy rejoinder about your moral justification.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

Nessus posted:

Historically speaking your only hope is to get the drop on him, possibly while shouting a snappy rejoinder about your moral justification.

The element of surprise might work. Get him while he’s busy watching a play or something.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Doesn't the guy still set the record for tallest President?

Keru
Aug 2, 2004

'n suddenly there was a terrible roar all around us 'n the sky was full of what looked like 'uge bats, all swooping 'n screeching 'n divin' around the ute.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Doesn't the guy still set the record for tallest President?

Nah, Obama was the size of an oak tree, growing in size each day.

Former DILF
Jul 13, 2017

ishikabibble posted:

Feet have actually changed :eng101:

There's a theory that Napoleon was actually 5'7" and the depiction of him as small in stature is due to a difference in the French and English inches. The French inch was longer, so a French foot was 33cm, while an English foot was 30cm. This resulted in his official height being reported as 5'2", which the British press took and ran with because it was short for someone of aristocracy or a military officer.

...Mind you that height came from when he was measured in a British prison, but that's besides this point :v:

However the difference is miniscule and Rome was full of buildings made up of stone bricks that were 1 foot in height, if he'd merely stood against any wall of the Pantheon you'd be able to easily estimate his height to great accuracy

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
George Washington was twelve stories high.

DicktheCat
Feb 15, 2011

Wheat Loaf posted:

Haha, I thought this was always just a joke from the most famous episode of Dad's Army.

(The one where they have to guard a captive German submarine crew and Lance Corporal Jones proposes cutting their trouser buttons off because, if they escaped, anyone who noticed a group of German sailors walking around town with their trousers around their ankles "might raise some inquiries").

Nope, it was real. That war got wierd sometimes.

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May 23, 2009

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Bobby Digital posted:

George Washington was twelve stories high.

Washington Washington
6 foot 8 weighed a loving ton

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