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Roseanne having the normalest one in history
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Rosanne go on cum town
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Jul 20, 2018 16:21
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I guess Roseanne is still funny.
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Jul 20, 2018 18:00
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But not, like, funny haha, more like "does this taste funny to you?" funny
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Jul 20, 2018 18:13
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I guess Roseanne is still funny. gonna lol when she dies of alcohol or drug related abuse under trump
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1redflag posted:But not, like, funny haha, more like "does this taste funny to you?" funny It's funny like when some drunk rear end in a top hat takes a swing in the bar bathroom, loses balance, and falls into the communal trough urinal.
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Jul 20, 2018 21:50
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ikanreed posted:Janet Reno was good They say she died of Parkinson's Disease, but we all know she died of a broken heart when the Oregon Refuge cabin wasn't burned to the ground.
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Jul 20, 2018 22:00
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There is a disturbing amount of Branch Davidian apologia out there that goes weellllll beyond "Gosh that situation should have ended with less dead people".
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Jul 20, 2018 22:24
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Grape posted:There is a disturbing amount of Branch Davidian apologia out there that goes weellllll beyond "Gosh that situation should have ended with less dead people". lol a few of these people literally blew up 50+ children in Oklahoma to get back at the government for it
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Jul 20, 2018 22:38
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LOOK before the government nosed in, the Branch folk were just good old fashioned heavily armed doomsday cultists complete with reports of child rape and underage harem behavior from the Joe Dirt messiah figure in charge.
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Jul 20, 2018 22:53
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We had to burn the children to save the children.
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Jul 20, 2018 23:43
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As I recall, one of the more amazing things about that whole mess was there was an FBI sniper who hosed everything up in Ruby Ridge... who was later still active in Waco loving everything up there as well You'd think they'd bench him after the first one ended in disaster. Also, considering how little it takes for a cop to gun people down now and be hailed as a hero for it, it's hard to conceive of a time in which the FBI using lethal force against armed (!!!) and violently rebellious suspects was considered an outrage. But it happened under a Democrat so Feds bad.
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Jul 20, 2018 23:49
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We had to burn the children to save the children. -ICE Agent circa 2022
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Jul 21, 2018 00:03
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We had to burn the children to save the children. this unironically
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Jul 21, 2018 00:04
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Personal interests are too subjective to assume that people value their material conditions over ideology. And besides, if we all voted in our material interests then the communist party would rule all 50 states. But which communist party? 
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Jul 21, 2018 00:09
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yeah ruby ridge and waco were handled terribly, but i think the oregon wildlife refuge could have really benefited from a similarly terrible approach
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Jul 21, 2018 00:24
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:yeah ruby ridge and waco were handled terribly, but i think the oregon wildlife refuge could have really benefited from a similarly terrible approach 
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Jul 21, 2018 00:46
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zegermans posted:They say she died of Parkinson's Disease, but we all know she died of a broken heart when the Oregon Refuge cabin wasn't burned to the ground. Never knew I agreed with Janet Reno on such important things Tarp Guy got what they all deserved and them all skating at trial made me so loving angry
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Jul 21, 2018 00:48
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Grape posted:There is a disturbing amount of Branch Davidian apologia out there that goes weellllll beyond "Gosh that situation should have ended with less dead people". Come out, and live with a religious community in a beautiful place out in the country.
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Jul 21, 2018 04:26
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:We had to burn the children to save the children. The investigation eventually found the davidians probably set the fire, not the tear gas canister
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Jul 21, 2018 04:27
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Astrochicken posted:Come out, and live with a religious community in a beautiful place out in the country. fuckin great boards of canada song
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Astrochicken posted:Come out, and live with a religious community in a beautiful place out in the country. Thats a phresh BoC track, son.
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Jul 21, 2018 05:12
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its a good song
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Jul 21, 2018 05:32
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ikanreed posted:The investigation eventually found the davidians probably set the fire, not the tear gas canister And if there is one thing we've learned since then, it's that we can implicitly trust law enforcement officials to honestly and accurately self-report when they murder civilians, and not to try to blame the victim or hastily cover it up after the fact.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:And if there is one thing we've learned since then, it's that we can implicitly trust law enforcement officials to honestly and accurately self-report when they murder civilians, and not to try to blame the victim or hastily cover it up after the fact. Indeed, usually in such cases as "random black man" rather than "insane religious redneck pedophile cult".
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Jul 21, 2018 06:50
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never trust cops
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Grape posted:Indeed, usually in such cases as "random black man" rather than "insane religious redneck pedophile cult". The institutional incentives to find that they didn't do anything wrong (i. e. not looking terrible, not getting sued) are exactly the same, so I don't know why one (very correctly!) merits incredulity while the other is just absolutely taken at face value. Like, of course the government says they set themselves on fire, do you really expect them to say "Yeah, we shouldn't have used that type of tear gas, because it was already banned for being super flammable. We murdered some kids, our bad, also please don't sue us."? Random Asshole has issued a correction as of 07:11 on Jul 21, 2018 |
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I read a couple accounts from surviving branch davidians and the most amazing thing about it is even the total true believers didn't find koresh remotely likable. that's not usually how cults go. the general take seemed to be "man it sucks that that guy happened to be the Messiah who we must obey" also unlike other cult accounts I've read the davidians seem completely normal and boring in every way. just completely regular people. it's all super freaky that normal people and a not even likable cult leader can go that hard
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Jul 21, 2018 07:17
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wow that is the worst cult ever. usually its virgin rape or space travel or something but wtf "whose turn is it to do the dishes?" "ugh whatever koresh more like boresh" "im tired"
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Jul 21, 2018 07:35
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Krankenstyle posted:wow that is the worst cult ever. usually its virgin rape or space travel or something but wtf oh, it was still virgin rape
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:The institutional incentives to find that they didn't do anything wrong (i. e. not looking terrible, not getting sued) are exactly the same, so I don't know why one (very correctly!) merits incredulity while the other is just absolutely taken at face value. it's easy to have a conspiracy when the only witnesses are the dirty cop and his partner, the personal stakes for them are very high (i.e. a murder charge), and none of the people who cared about the victim have any power or visibility it's a bit harder when it's a huge national tragedy that has already invited tremendous outside scrutiny, and involved dozens of potential witnesses who might not all be happy to perjure themselves so the FBI can save face
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Jul 21, 2018 09:41
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I believe there is audio recordings of some members of the branch davidians talking about spreading gasoline. Either way it's still a huge tragedy how the atf handled it.
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Darkoni posted:I believe there is audio recordings of some members of the branch davidians talking about spreading gasoline. a few different times over a few hours
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Jul 21, 2018 17:26
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They got tipped off by accident, too. https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...m=.cca6df88c5b1
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Best Friends posted:I read a couple accounts from surviving branch davidians and the most amazing thing about it is even the total true believers didn't find koresh remotely likable. that's not usually how cults go. Bhaghwan Shree Rajneesh blew his cult's own money buying an entire fleet of Rolls Royces, and drove a different one every day. They were all kept on the Rajneeshpuram compound too, and all the college educated people who joined the cult didn't feel like it was a scam.
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watch Wild Wild Country on netflix. its pretty decent on covering the rajneesh stuff from back to front. its also got some hilarious footage of old people making scared old people comments my pearls!
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Jul 21, 2018 20:41
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Krankenstyle posted:never trust cops
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Krankenstyle posted:never trust cops
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Jul 21, 2018 21:11
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FMguru posted:police will never help you Actually, actively the opposite.
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Burt Sexual posted:Actually, actively the opposite. they will always help you what cops do you know
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