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Fornax Disaster
Apr 11, 2005

If you need me I'll be in Holodeck Four.

babyeatingpsychopath posted:

The old mechanic at our shop pulled out his old sheetmetal toolbox and had these stickers on it. These are from when he was at SAC back in the 50s.


I have this same sticker!



It was actually made by the Constellation Group, a restoration group out of Arizona that no longer exists. They had a flyable Super Constellation they restored in MATS markings that they toured airshows with back in the 90s. I bought the sticker from the souvenir table they set up next to the plane at the Hamilton Ontario Airshow. This would be like twenty years ago when they still did full scale international airshows there.

That plane no longer flies, it was sold and is now in static display in South Korea.

http://www.conniesurvivors.com/1-mats_connie_korea.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtXYuufuVu8

So not actually from the 50s, but pretty cool to have anyway.

Edit: In that article I posted one of the old guys has a shirt with that design on it.

Fornax Disaster fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jul 20, 2018

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drunkill
Sep 25, 2007

me @ ur posting
Fallen Rib
Okay this looks amazing, how do we watch the whole thing?

https://youtu.be/aZxgEi8gEsE

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

drunkill posted:

Okay this looks amazing, how do we watch the whole thing?

https://youtu.be/aZxgEi8gEsE

Unfortunately as a brit i'm not super comfortable about wartime nationalistic stuff right now for some reason

A shame because it looks gorgeous

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
can someone make a movie about the hurricane goddamn it

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

MikeCrotch posted:

Unfortunately as a brit i'm not super comfortable about wartime nationalistic stuff right now for some reason

A shame because it looks gorgeous

quote:

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves, that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth[e] last for a thousand years, men will still say, "This was their finest hour."

Even Churchill knew it was all downhill from there.

ManifunkDestiny
Aug 2, 2005
THE ONLY THING BETTER THAN THE SEAHAWKS IS RUSSELL WILSON'S TAINT SWEAT

Seahawks #1 fan since 2014.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

can someone make a movie about the hurricane goddamn it

Seriously, it's always kinda mystified me how some planes are glorified/become national symbols of an era while others, in the same class, are completely ignored. Things like how the Lancaster is The British Bomber of WW2 while the Halifax is just completely ignored, or how the B-17 is the iconic American bomber while more Liberators were built. Interesting how our mythmaking happens.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Seriously, it's always kinda mystified me how some planes are glorified/become national symbols of an era while others, in the same class, are completely ignored. Things like how the Lancaster is The British Bomber of WW2 while the Halifax is just completely ignored, or how the B-17 is the iconic American bomber while more Liberators were built. Interesting how our mythmaking happens.

I mean the Spitfire looks loving awesome and the Hurricane looks like Generic Late Interwar Inverted V-12 Fighter so that's probably part of it.

thesurlyspringKAA
Jul 8, 2005

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I mean the Spitfire looks loving awesome and the Hurricane looks like Generic Late Interwar Inverted V-12 Fighter so that's probably part of it.

And the B-17 looks cooler than the B-24

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Plinkey posted:

Yeah, is pulling into the grass normal to slow down on a glider?
it's normal if you don't like dragging your glider off to the pits by hand.

StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

ManifunkDestiny posted:

Seriously, it's always kinda mystified me how some planes are glorified/become national symbols of an era while others, in the same class, are completely ignored. Things like how the Lancaster is The British Bomber of WW2 while the Halifax is just completely ignored, or how the B-17 is the iconic American bomber while more Liberators were built. Interesting how our mythmaking happens.

Supposedly the B-17 units got more film crews.

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


yo I got to see a B-29's power turrets operated and swiveling today it was RAD AS HELL

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

I mean the Spitfire looks loving awesome and the Hurricane looks like Generic Late Interwar Inverted V-12 Fighter so that's probably part of it.

I like the Hurricane better because it's the fighter that did the bulk of the work in the Battle of Britain and it was made of wood and canvas. Don't need no fancy elliptical metal wings

Anyway, yeah, I like the WW2 planes aesthetically and technologically, but there's always a damper put on my enthusiasm knowing that they were killing machines, and they really did kill a lot of people. It was necessary to stop the Nazis, but in the end, the Spitfire's "symbol of freedom" that those people in the video brag about while the orchestra swells really just amounts to a lot of dead kids on both sides.

Old warbirds don't have to be about killing, though. The flight school down the road is getting an L-5 Sentinel, apparently. There's something we can all enjoy!

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

StandardVC10 posted:

Supposedly the B-17 units got more film crews.

The B-24 was just *not* a photogenic aircraft. It might also be the fact that the B-17 was a revolutionary product of a 'recovering' America while the B-24 was one of prompt necessity.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

StandardVC10 posted:

Supposedly the B-17 units got more film crews.

I think the B-17 mythos is also due to it being in service earlier, so it showed up in more propaganda material/newsreels early in the war, especially during the initial USAAF daylight attacks against Germany, when the photos of badly damaged B-17's managing to limp home started to appear in magazines and newspapers.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



StandardVC10 posted:

Supposedly the B-17 units got more film crews.

It's possible, although arguably the most famous footage of B-24s is that hosed-up low-level raid over Ploesti, where they were just getting hammered by AA.

Plastic_Gargoyle
Aug 3, 2007

Two significant accidents today, both involving Warbirds.

A de Havilland Venom crashed in Wisconsin, pilot was killed and two on the ground injured.
http://www.wbay.com/content/news/Plane-crashes-near-Sheboygan-Falls-488762471.html

And a C-47 crashed in Burnet, Texas, everyone got out but with injuries, and the bird burned out on the ground:
https://www.kxan.com/news/local-news/breaking-crash-destroys-antique-plane-at-burnet-municipal-airport/1314564561

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Other bad airplane news: C'mon Air India how hard is it to fill up that airtight tube with lethal gas to kill all the insects inside

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007



Where there's people, there's critters. It's inevitable. You can choose to live in a fantasy land where you believe this isn't the case, but it has nothing to do with reality. At least it's not two foot long rats chewing up all the insulation and poo poo behind the panels. The fact that there's as few assorted infestations as there are is kind of indicative of how well these things are controlled.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003




I'm waiting for my delayed air India flight right now. My standard travel procedure though is the moment I get home I strip naked and all clothing from myself and my luggage goes in the wash. This should be standard procedure for anyone that travels, outside or inside the US.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

So how do you deal with bedbugs anyway

When she's on the ground, just soak everything in a tincture of nicotine

Also just listened to the dollop on the dole airplane race

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004


I really enjoy the dollop and while they have some misses they have far more hits IMO. Despite their warnings about sound quality (legit) this is a pro listen.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



Surprise they lied and then tried to send us to a hotel an hour away from the airport (without traffic) telling us it would be ready by 1 pm. They would not give this in writing but it was "for sure!".

I just rebooked on to a British airways flight and leave in an hour now.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Sagebrush posted:

Anyway, yeah, I like the WW2 planes aesthetically and technologically, but there's always a damper put on my enthusiasm knowing that they were killing machines, and they really did kill a lot of people. It was necessary to stop the Nazis, but in the end, the Spitfire's "symbol of freedom" that those people in the video brag about while the orchestra swells really just amounts to a lot of dead kids on both sides.

Those kids were very fine people.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Nebakenezzer posted:

So how do you deal with bedbugs anyway

When she's on the ground, just soak everything in a tincture of nicotine

Also just listened to the dollop on the dole airplane race

Remove the upholstery in the affected area and spray with a local pesticide. For multiple occurrences or reports, next step is seal up and fumigate. There's pest removal companies that have specialized services for airplanes.

Woolwich Bagnet
Apr 27, 2003



For my air India flight after 4 hours delay they wanted to take us to a hotel an hour away and gave us their word that it would leave by 1 pm! They would not put it in writing of course and the hotel they took us to had no rooms ready.

I managed to catch the last seat out on a British airways flight to London that left a couple of hours later. Sitting in London now waiting for my flight home.

As far as I can tell the air India flight never left and they're probably trying to pack people on the other daily flight.

Downside is today has been hilariously long.

Upside is I get to ride a 787 for this leg.

As for bugs, they actually sprayed the cabin on the way from India.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Finger Prince posted:

Remove the upholstery in the affected area and spray with a local pesticide. For multiple occurrences or reports, next step is seal up and fumigate. There's pest removal companies that have specialized services for airplanes.

Is it the nature of airtight seals that makes this much more effective than fumigating in a house? I thought even if you fumigate the bed bugs can still return.

Also, LockMart's new airship has something cool to check for pinhole leaks

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009
Probably, plus there's not really anywhere else for them to run to and infest compared to a house, which typically has other dwellings nearby that bedbugs will invade.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Stuff on Wired possibly of interest ITT:

loon balloons to deplune dunes [of dead spaces in signal coverage]

The Isrealis have an unbelievably weird looking drone medivac capsue. I'm looking at it and thinking naturally helicopter/airship or even a Fieseler Storch or similar would be better.

The flying taxi grift continues at Uber

Nebakenezzer fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Jul 22, 2018

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

Jesus christ why do they even bother coming up with numbers for this nonsense?

You could say it's going to cruise at Mach 3 100 ft. off the ground, and transport passengers in luxurious accommodations that bring to visions of Xanadu itself, and it would be not significantly less likely that what they've actually proposed. The FAA isn't going to allow a bunch of flying taxis to zip in and out of cities using unproven technology while carrying passengers, it simply will not happen in anything approaching the near future.

Do they even look at the timeframe for designing and certifying an aircraft that using normal-rear end technology that already exists, and operates within the existing legal framework? gently caress sake, that usually takes well over five years on its own. This lunacy makes me angry!

PT6A fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jul 23, 2018

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



poo poo, I fly a drone professionally, and there are tons of places I cannot operate - such as Class B airspace -without an expressed waiver. Now, that's supposed to change soon for Part 107, but that still means UAVs under 50-lbs. and staying under 600' in most metro areas.

The jump from that to a passeger-carrying-size craft? Not happening anytime soon, if ever.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

PainterofCrap posted:

The jump from that to a passeger-carrying-size craft? Not happening anytime soon, if ever.
Sometime in the near future, a lobbyist will slither into the Oval Office:

"Don't you want to be remembered as the President that finally made flying cars a reality?"

:smugdon:

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jul 23, 2018

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

PainterofCrap posted:

poo poo, I fly a drone professionally, and there are tons of places I cannot operate - such as Class B airspace -without an expressed waiver. Now, that's supposed to change soon for Part 107, but that still means UAVs under 50-lbs. and staying under 600' in most metro areas.

The jump from that to a passeger-carrying-size craft? Not happening anytime soon, if ever.

No poo poo!

Did they even bother to look this poo poo up or did they figured they'd just gently caress around and break some laws like they usually do?

dog nougat
Apr 8, 2009

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Sometime in the near future, a lobbyist will slither into the Oval Office:

"Don't you want to be remembered as the President that finally made flying cars a reality?"

:smugdon:

Cars already fly. They're just really poorly aerodynamically designed.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
Behold, the AWACS porn version of "yer on guarrrrrrrrrd": https://theaviationgeekclub.com/e-3...n-desert-storm/

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

Nebakenezzer posted:

Is it the nature of airtight seals that makes this much more effective than fumigating in a house? I thought even if you fumigate the bed bugs can still return.

Also, LockMart's new airship has something cool to check for pinhole leaks

Clicked the link thinking it was going to be like a dye in the lifting gas to make leaks obvious

Nope, it's Repair Drones Like In My Sci-Fi Video Games

Wingnut Ninja
Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Behold, the AWACS porn version of "yer on guarrrrrrrrrd": https://theaviationgeekclub.com/e-3...n-desert-storm/

I don't know where they're getting that headline from, in the story the F-14 is targeting a striker coming off the target area, not the E-2. The E-2 wouldn't have been anywhere near that.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005

PT6A posted:

No poo poo!

Did they even bother to look this poo poo up or did they figured they'd just gently caress around and break some laws like they usually do?

"We have an app, it'll disrupt all the things!" Is basically all the planning most tech companies do, since they just assume that the government will allow them them to proceed with whatever harebrained scheme they've come up with.

Every six month or so, someone comes up with an app that they claim will be the "Uber for airplanes" by letting people buy rides on small private airplanes, and every single time, those get smacked down by the FAA for being illegal.

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Behold, the AWACS porn version of "yer on guarrrrrrrrrd": https://theaviationgeekclub.com/e-3...n-desert-storm/
This is what caught my eye linked on that page, an F35/F22 hybrid? How long has this been a thing?

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/lockheed-martins-f-22-f-35-hybrid-for-japan-will-cost-177-million-instead-of-133-million-per-aircraft/

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

slidebite posted:

This is what caught my eye linked on that page, an F35/F22 hybrid? How long has this been a thing?

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/lockheed-martins-f-22-f-35-hybrid-for-japan-will-cost-177-million-instead-of-133-million-per-aircraft/

It has yet to be a thing, actually. But the proposal is just a few months old.

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PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

azflyboy posted:

"We have an app, it'll disrupt all the things!" Is basically all the planning most tech companies do, since they just assume that the government will allow them them to proceed with whatever harebrained scheme they've come up with.

Every six month or so, someone comes up with an app that they claim will be the "Uber for airplanes" by letting people buy rides on small private airplanes, and every single time, those get smacked down by the FAA for being illegal.

The weirdest thing is there's nothing illegal about that as far as I can tell, provided you follow the applicable laws. But then you're talking aircraft charter with a novel booking method, and that poo poo's still pretty expensive. All the disruption poo poo is about finding the One Weird Trick [that breaks the law, but not enough that you get in serious trouble] in order to save a bunch of money. That poo poo will not work with aircraft.

PT6A fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jul 23, 2018

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