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ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

it would have been "ironic" if the proud conservative, Christian family had a baby at Pride or something you stupid rear end in a top hat, learn what words mean :argh:

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

ekuNNN posted:

it would have been "ironic" if the proud conservative, Christian family had a baby at Pride or something you stupid rear end in a top hat, learn what words mean :argh:

There’s some light irony to a religious family decking their baby in the trappings of commercialism and the least godly president in living history, even if that’s the sort of hypocrisy we tend to expect from evangelicals by now.

a new study bible!
Feb 2, 2009



BIG DICK NICK
A Philadelphia Legend
Fly Eagles Fly



At least she has guaranteed employment until she is at least 93.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




actually that kid will be p disappointed when taco bell wins the restaurant wars

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Bonzo posted:

Company made 5 billion last year and all I got was a candy bar.



My company makes $10b/year, I celebrated my 30th anniversary this year by looking at a form email congratulating me on my milestone. It had Do Not Reply at the bottom for extra love.

BAGS FLY AT NOON
Apr 6, 2011

A Soft Nylon Bag

Bonzo posted:

Company made 5 billion last year and all I got was a candy bar.



But you see, Comcast has what, 150,000 employees? Do the math. Each one of those chocolate bars cost like $2 because of the branded packaging. There’s just no way they could afford to do anything more rewarding for so many valued employees.


*gives CEO $100 million in bonuses and massive dividends to shareholders*

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Burt Sexual posted:

My company makes $10b/year, I celebrated my 30th anniversary this year by looking at a form email congratulating me on my milestone. It had Do Not Reply at the bottom for extra love.

You've got a company wide list of emails right?


I'm somewhat surprised people don't copy paste that list over to an anonymous account and spam their fellow employees with calls to storm the board room.

Rated PG-34
Jul 1, 2004




Outrail posted:

You've got a company wide list of emails right?


I'm somewhat surprised people don't copy paste that list over to an anonymous account and spam their fellow employees with calls to storm the board room.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/05/air-france-workers-storm-meeting-protest-executives-job-losses-paris

and people call the french pussies

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007


When you see the word "shareholders", you should be mentally reading that as "parasites".

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

I'm certain that The Media/The Globalists perpetuate this myth so that no one copies the French. The French are rad. Every Frenchman is always an inch away from The Revolution. Farmers routinely drop manure on parliament when they don't get their way. They loving love protests and strikes and guillotines. If only America hadn't gotten fat and complacent and addicted to corn syrup maybe they'd remember they got what they have through revolt too.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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“Those who engage in violence are irresponsible. Nothing can replace social dialogue,” Emmanuel Macron wrote.

Proven wrong moments earlier:

Olivier Labarre, director of BTI, a human resources consultancy, told Libération newspaper in 2009: “This happens elsewhere, but to my knowledge, taking the boss hostage is typically French. It’s the nature of the social dialogue in our country.”

gently caress yeah. Pity they didn't have time to fire up the grill before the fuzz showed up.

Drone_Fragger posted:

When you see the word "shareholders", you should be mentally reading that as "parasites".

Not gonna lie, I looked at amazon's 5year stock performance, looked at what they've got in the works regarding warehousing and pharmacutial mergers and I think I'll be buying some stock. Might as well give myself a win win. If they crumble, good. If they go up, well good for me.

I'd still applaud the warehouse worker who throws a board member off the roof.

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

Breakfast Feud posted:

If only America hadn't gotten fat and complacent and addicted to corn syrup maybe they'd remember they got what they have through revolt too.
:hmmyes:
https://www.counterpunch.org/2012/07/31/americans-and-historical-amnesia/

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Bonzo posted:

Company made 5 billion last year and all I got was a candy bar.



My company proclaims we are the best at what we do every chance it gets when it has us work more or increases workload.
Yet when it comes to wages and increases its ' sorry but your wages are already comparative to the industry standard'. Actual words.

We can't even afford the deposit's for houses.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

mike12345 posted:

Former Valve dude has giant meltdown on Twitter and shares his work experience with the rest of the world

https://twitter.com/richgel999/status/1018642399512420352

It's too long to parse on Twitter, so some reddit dude dumped it in a thread. Pretty interesting stuff. Some of his comments on self-organizing companies echo my experience working with ~anarchist~ communes.

https://old.reddit.com/r/valve/comments/8zmp07/former_valve_employee_tweets_his_experience_at/?sort=confidence
Here are some choice quotes that are very revealing:

quote:

So-called self-organizing companies have a corporate arm somewhere controlling the entire operation from “above”. Find them and their friends to figure out who has the real power.
...
Just so it’s clear, if I was a billionaire I would be running my own little self organizing company. With a different color scheme, and better offices. I do think they can be superior to hierarchical companies. Hierarchical companies can degenerate into insanity.
...
And so my experience was super valuable. I can’t work for a hierarchical company anymore because I think they are mostly insane.
...
The “C” (crazy) word will be used to discount what I’m saying. It’s easy to call some group or person crazy. Self organized workers are trained to see hierarchical firms as utterly crazy places. Anyone who points this stuff out and just tells it like it is is marked as Crazy.
The valve dude describes a very obvious hierarchy, yet he still draws a distinction between this company and those other "hierarchical" companies. The "self-organizing" and "flat" propaganda is just a management technique to try to extract more value from gullible employees within a hierarchy. American workers have been so lobotomized they forgot what workers in the 19th century were saying which is that workers should own their factory or workplace.

g0lbez
Dec 25, 2004

and then you'll beg

happyhippy posted:

My company proclaims we are the best at what we do every chance it gets when it has us work more or increases workload.
Yet when it comes to wages and increases its ' sorry but your wages are already comparative to the industry standard'. Actual words.

We can't even afford the deposit's for houses.

It's kind of weird that we can openly poo poo talk the president of our country but if we accidently let slip what megacorp we work for there's a real chance you could get fired out of nowhere

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

It's not amnesia. Americans are heavily propagandized from birth to believe that America is a force for good no matter how much evidence they see to the contrary

It's the only way american atrocities can function.
https://williamblum.org/aer/read/158

Ebola Roulette
Sep 13, 2010

No matter what you win lose ragepiss.

ekuNNN posted:

it would have been "ironic" if the proud conservative, Christian family had a baby at Pride or something you stupid rear end in a top hat, learn what words mean :argh:

I'm shocked, shocked I tell you that a Trump supporter doesn't know the meaning of a word.

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

Mizuti posted:

Seen outside an Apple store after Steve Jobs died:


This is pretty tame, i was working at Apple when he died and the outside of the store was covered in flowers and post-it notes with messages of love for like a couple of weeks

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Tetracube posted:



lmao at google+ being anywhere near that high

this survey was blatantly done by google employees

If you use YOutube, you are technically a Google+ user, congratulations

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

g0lbez posted:

I'm pretty sure that marketing PDF is just a way for marketers to rip off other marketers by selling positive survey results of brand names (increasing brand awareness is what it's probably billed as) and packaging it up as the cool inside scoop on kids these days

Oh yeah it's absolutely this, I worked for a software company that made library software specifically for managing marketing documents a while back and there's millions of different iterations of this kinda thing, all with their own nonsense statistics like "our service reaches 89% of all ~tech mavens~!"

If you read the fine print, "tech maven" is defined as "someone who has bought at least one tech product before anyone else they know, ever" :thumbsup:

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Also that tech mavens statistic was from loving AOL circa 2014 iirc so it's even better

ChesterJT
Dec 28, 2003

Mounty Pumper's Flying Circus

china bot posted:

unless the baby is gay

They may have moved on to a don't ask don't tell policy because there are two gay guys working at my local chic-fil-a.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Also also iirc the way Google+ claims that 44% statistic (which they've claimed for years and not just about teens) is they count anyone who ever made an account as a "user", and when it first came out pretty much everyone made an account or linked their account or w/e during their aggressive marketing push, look a look around for 5 minutes then never came back.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

ChesterJT posted:

They may have moved on to a don't ask don't tell policy because there are two gay guys working at my local chic-fil-a.

Chic-Fil-A officially renounced its anti-gay policies and stopped donating directly to anti-gay groups, but the owner of Chic-Fil-A upped his personal contribution to the anti-gay groups by an equal amount, so your money is still going to focus on the family it's just taking an extra step first that lets them claim innocence.

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib

Mizuti posted:

Seen outside an Apple store after Steve Jobs died:



That's where this picture is from!?

I genuinely thought this was from like right after a mass shooting or a memorial for some terrorist act. God I'm an idiot.

Meme Poker Party
Sep 1, 2006

by Azathoth

ate all the Oreos posted:

Also also iirc the way Google+ claims that 44% statistic (which they've claimed for years and not just about teens) is they count anyone who ever made an account as a "user", and when it first came out pretty much everyone made an account or linked their account or w/e during their aggressive marketing push, look a look around for 5 minutes then never came back.

I believe you were forced to make one as part of having either a youtube or gmail account or both. That's way worse than your standard "marketing push generated buzz and then people left".Essentially 90% or more of them are accounts people were forced to make it order to continue using youtube/gmail and have never touched since their initial formation. It's a sham statistic of the highest order.

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

This is an incredibly "woke" take on America that glosses over a bunch of stuff that really makes America, well, American. I've spent a lot of time wondering why America breeds stuff like civial war reenactors and LIbertarians while up North in Canada no one reeancts the plains of Abraham or pines for the days we lugged canoes through the bush. America had a period, however brief, where social mobility was possible. Small-scale capitalism functioned. The dude that invented your national parks started off life as a poor kid who liked to whittle gears and build machines, and for that alone was recognized.

Then y'all done hosed it up with your insatiable thirst for plastic chotchkies and consumer debt.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Breakfast Feud posted:

This is an incredibly "woke" take on America that glosses over a bunch of stuff that really makes America, well, American. I've spent a lot of time wondering why America breeds stuff like civial war reenactors and LIbertarians while up North in Canada no one reeancts the plains of Abraham or pines for the days we lugged canoes through the bush. America had a period, however brief, where social mobility was possible. Small-scale capitalism functioned. The dude that invented your national parks started off life as a poor kid who liked to whittle gears and build machines, and for that alone was recognized.

Then y'all done hosed it up with your insatiable thirst for plastic chotchkies and consumer debt.

Nah it's always sucked, read A People's History of the United States some time

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Labor history in the US sucked, but real wages did increase along w/ productivity (and rents extracted by parasites) for like 150 years until the 1970s. This hasn't happened anywhere else in the world. The real wages since the 70s are now stagnant (and arguably declining if you look beyond CPI) while productivity and rent extraction continues to grow.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

Labor history in the US sucked, but real wages did increase along w/ productivity (and rents extracted by parasites) for like 150 years until the 1970s. This hasn't happened anywhere else in the world. The real wages since the 70s are now stagnant (and arguably declining if you look beyond CPI) while productivity and rent extraction continues to grow.

They've definitely declined since the 70's because the number that's usually cited is based on household income and in the 70's far fewer households had dual incomes.

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene
America was always hosed for loads of people. Most people.

Breakfast Feud posted:

Then y'all done hosed it up for straight white males too with your insatiable thirst for the return of indentured servitude.

ate all the Oreos posted:

read A People's History of the United States some time

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

ate all the Oreos posted:

Nah it's always sucked, read A People's History of the United States some time

It's 100% always sucked, but it was built from nothing into the monster it is today so that's gotta count for something

qkkl
Jul 1, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

comedyblissoption posted:

Here are some choice quotes that are very revealing:

The valve dude describes a very obvious hierarchy, yet he still draws a distinction between this company and those other "hierarchical" companies. The "self-organizing" and "flat" propaganda is just a management technique to try to extract more value from gullible employees within a hierarchy. American workers have been so lobotomized they forgot what workers in the 19th century were saying which is that workers should own their factory or workplace.

In a traditional hierarchical company the hierarchy is very rigid and the only real way you can move up in the hierarchy is if someone higher-up leaves. The hierarchy in a "self-organizing" company is much more fluid, and people tend to move a lot more in that hierarchy based on company needs.

ubachung
Jul 30, 2006

comedyblissoption posted:

This hasn't happened anywhere else in the world.

This sounds like American exceptionalism and I find it very hard to believe.

is pepsi ok
Oct 23, 2002

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM4EudCC6bE

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

comedyblissoption posted:

Labor history in the US sucked, but real wages did increase along w/ productivity [...]. This hasn't happened anywhere else in the world.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

that doesn't look like a graph over 150 years to me

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Crypto Cobain
Jun 17, 2018

by Reene

comedyblissoption posted:

that doesn't look like a graph over 150 years to me
China did in 30 years what it took England 300 years and America 200 to do - transition from a rural agrarian society to a (post)industrial one. That is astonishing one way or another.

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Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
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Thanks to the China.jpg threads I don't trust a single statistic about China unless its based on measurements taken by someone with no past or present interaction with China or their government.

So I assume that wage number is about a quarter of what they say it is.

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