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fishmech posted:Is 7 million dead civilians limited? Also it totally rolled through a bunch of cities. And that's before you get to the populations worn down by 4 years of war getting massively owned by an influenza pandemic.
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spectralent posted:Maybe it's hugely different in the humanities
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Ainsley McTree posted:Has the “what if centaurs had muskets” premise been mined yet? Because I have an idea (it’s centaurs with muskets) Would they be dragoons or cavalry? What if dragoons rode into battle on their backs? So many questions!!!
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Tevery Best posted:What about Xenophon? He seems pretty into the idea that the Spartans are different, and he lived with them for many years. He doesn't say they particularly train for war, though. The only thing he says about Spartan children and military is that they're encouraged to steal food and beaten if they're caught, which he thinks trains them to be scouts. As for Spartan men, he says that what they're really obsessed with is hunting. When he talks about the Spartan army, he says what makes them good, is, first, that they're better at logistics and supplying their troops, and second, is that they use simple tactics, so the soldier doesn't have to be well trained to understand it, and finally that the Spartan way of life encourages them to be brave and care about other Spartans, which strengthens them on the battlefield and makes them less likely to run.
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Taerkar posted:Would they be dragoons or cavalry? What if dragoons rode into battle on their backs? The real benefit of them as dragoons is they're horses that can look after themselves. Also if the guys are bantam sized they could probably get 2 voltigeurs on them!
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Taerkar posted:Would they be dragoons or cavalry? What if dragoons rode into battle on their backs? Using them as dragoons with a dragoon on their back means you get twice as much firepower for your buck, and the dragoons can even lay down some fire as the centaurs charge to give their enemy cold steel. Really I'm not seeing downsides here, sounds like they would be one hell of a world beater.
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Supporting a centaur army would probably be a logistical nightmare
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You'd have to make sure they don't pick up VD from the baggage train/camp followers AND make sure they don't get colic.
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Stairmaster posted:Supporting a centaur army would probably be a logistical nightmare do they eat fodder or just like people stuff.
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Don Gato posted:Using them as dragoons with a dragoon on their back means you get twice as much firepower for your buck, and the dragoons can even lay down some fire as the centaurs charge to give their enemy cold steel. Even better than that since you don't need 25% of your force to stay back and hold the horses.
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Milo and POTUS posted:do they eat fodder or just like people stuff. If you go by the myths, they mainly subsist on wine. And rape. Centaurs in Greek myth pretty much always mean rape.
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Cythereal posted:If you go by the myths, they mainly subsist on wine. Ah, so they could pull double duty on ships as marines Corsair Pool Boy posted:Even better than that since you don't need 25% of your force to stay back and hold the horses. *weakly sweeps hand across table, struggling to knock off lightest objects* Nobody listening to a god drat thing I say.
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Corsair Pool Boy posted:Do you put a human on the centaur or is the centaur itself a one-centaur chasseur? Can you then use it to transport pikemen or other foot infantry to where they are needed on the battlefield? Centaur dragoons would be pretty good. They could carry a infantryman, who would then dismount to fight with the centaur. Like a regular dragoon, but the mount also fights.  e: f,b
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HEY GUNS posted:It is, I've never heard about publication fees. I was going to say, something seemed weird because "nonprofits run by a few people" DEFINITELY doesn't describe any publisher I've ever interacted with or been around interaction with. "Run for a few people" maybe. It sounds nice in humanities.
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spectralent posted:I was going to say, something seemed weird because "nonprofits run by a few people" DEFINITELY doesn't describe any publisher I've ever interacted with or been around interaction with. "Run for a few people" maybe. It sounds nice in humanities. (2) the few people who run the thing are all old as poo poo so your submission might be delayed for a while while the lead dude has surgery (this happened to me)
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Do the humanities have those slick online submission systems with the horridly specific formatting requirements? I have spent so many hours poring over authors' instructions figuring out whether or not there needs to be a conclusions section after the discussion, or if the first section of the abstract should be named Aim or Background, and if the tables go at the end of the manuscript, in seperate files, or, very kinky, right in the text, and if it turns out that in history you can just email a dude a docx I might have a breakdown
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SeanBeansShako posted:Nobody ever talks about the Chasseur Centaurs. Beautiful human warhorses!
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https://mobile.twitter.com/cbsaustin/status/1020718427479175168 Get the real DDay paratrooper experience
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I'm at my parents' place, cooking dinner for myself because the dinner Dad cooked for the rest of the family is something I don't like, and my father and I were discussing the proper way to cook a steak. We both use variants of the Alton Brown method (get a cast-iron skillet as hot as youi can, sear both sides, then plonk it in the preheated oven set to max temp until it's cooked to your taste). He prefers well-done, but he's allowed -- in wilderness survival/escape and evade training in North Carolina, and then the real thing in the jungles of Vietnam, he's had more than his fair share of uncooked meat. "They called us 'snake-eaters' for a reason," was his parting shot as he left the kitchen. ("Snake's not too bad, if you boil it for awhile to get all the oil out of it.")
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Siivola posted:*sigh* The video on its own would've been a good joke, but this confuses me. And yes, I've watched Chip and Ironicus play MGS3, I get the reference.
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Stairmaster posted:Supporting a centaur army would probably be a logistical nightmare Noted authority on equanthropic logistics C. S. Lewis wrote that asking a centaur to breakfast is as really bad idea; it taskes hours to fill both stomachs...
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speaking of civilian casualties, is there any sort of approximate death count for sherman's march? i know it wasnt nearly as bad as people say but idk if it caused serious famine. suppose the same goes for sheridan's valley campaign, though no one remembers that
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StashAugustine posted:speaking of civilian casualties, is there any sort of approximate death count for sherman's march? i know it wasnt nearly as bad as people say but idk if it caused serious famine. suppose the same goes for sheridan's valley campaign, though no one remembers that The closest I've seen to a reliable count is estimates that the civilians who can be said to have died from it would be no more than 3000 if you were really trying to total things up, and likely a thousand or less. Many of the associated deaths were from local residents who decided they might as well become camp followers, especially former slaves, who were not provisioned by the Army on the way.
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Chillbro Baggins posted:The video on its own would've been a good joke, but this confuses me. And yes, I've watched Chip and Ironicus play MGS3, I get the reference. Memes, you know how it is.
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StashAugustine posted:speaking of civilian casualties, is there any sort of approximate death count for sherman's march? i know it wasnt nearly as bad as people say but idk if it caused serious famine. suppose the same goes for sheridan's valley campaign, though no one remembers that People act like Atlanta was some kind of national treasure that was cruelly sacked, looted, and pillaged in its prime, when it was a dumpy warehouse town that wasn't even 2nd-largest in Georgia. There's so much bullshit tied up around the March to the Sea that it leaves me flabbergasted. "Native Atlantans" occasionally show up in threads and start recounting the family legacy of surviving Atlanta, in the same conversation as 30YW Magdeburg or loving Hiroshima. It's wild. I'm of the opinion that more people died of starvation in North Virginia than the March to the Sea. Surely, 4 years of massive armies traipsing back and forth over 50 square miles of land did more damage to the land than a few weeks of Sherman burning cotton stocks and plantation houses.
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Slim Jim Pickens posted:People act like Atlanta was some kind of national treasure that was cruelly sacked, looted, and pillaged in its prime, when it was a dumpy warehouse town that wasn't even 2nd-largest in Georgia. There's so much bullshit tied up around the March to the Sea that it leaves me flabbergasted. "Native Atlantans" occasionally show up in threads and start recounting the family legacy of surviving Atlanta, in the same conversation as 30YW Magdeburg or loving Hiroshima. It's wild. Mobile had like 3x the population of Atlanta in 1860. Granted it was a port city, but still I agree with you.
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Stairmaster posted:Supporting a centaur army would probably be a logistical nightmare I think the biggest benefit of centaurs would actually be logistical. Centaurs would probably eat more or less like a horse, maybe with a little protein thrown in (because they're also dudes). However, they can perform all the duties of a horse, but also all the duties of a man. Crucially, they can take care of themselves, so you don't need to waste manpower (which also needs to be fed and taken care of) on minding them. The logistical footprint of a centaur is less than a horse and slightly more than a guy, but you get something that can perform the job of both. This isn't even going into the tactical possibilities (a centaur flying battery?) of centaurs. Why can't I stop thinking about centaurs in Napoleonic warfare? Help. Geisladisk fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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They make the centaurs graze but the it's hell on their lower (upper) human backs. They drink a lot to cope.
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They can't effectively chew hay like horses do with human teeth even if the intestines were horse-like. This would result in less calories taken from same amount of hay. And the calory requirement would be greater than that of a horse because not only you have all the muscles of a horse minus the head, you also have the upper limbs of a man and very importantly also a human sized brain which needs plenty of energy compared to a horsey. Solution could be in fruits and roots that man can chew and horse intestines process, like apples, carrots and cabbages. Dietary supplements might be needed according to veterinarian's recommendations.
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They're pretty good at foraging in orchards is all I'm hearing where a normal guy would need a ladder
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What if the centaurs are carnivores?
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Geisladisk posted:they can take care of themselves Not really no. They've got human-length arms attached to their human shoulders, meaning anything behind the forelegs is forever out of reach. Think that spot on your back you can never scratch, except it's 2/3rds of your body.
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The Lone Badger posted:Not really no. They've got human-length arms attached to their human shoulders, meaning anything behind the forelegs is forever out of reach. Think that spot on your back you can never scratch, except it's 2/3rds of your body. No wonder then that centaurs have been depicted as rape-happy, imagine the constant urges if human males had t-rex arms!
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The Lone Badger posted:Not really no. They've got human-length arms attached to their human shoulders, meaning anything behind the forelegs is forever out of reach. Think that spot on your back you can never scratch, except it's 2/3rds of your body. they could brush and curry each other 
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HEY GUNS posted:they could brush and curry each other Turn themselves into a delicious Indian main course?
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JcDent posted:What if the centaurs are carnivores? They may have a human stomach rather than a horse stomach, in which case they could eat meat but they would have to eat a great deal of it because the average horse needs 13,000 calories a day to live. They'd probably seek out calorie-dense, nutrient-dense foods like fat and organ meat. so it's possible they have to be carnivorous. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:They may have a human stomach rather than a horse stomach, in which case they could eat meat but they would have to eat a great deal of it because the average horse needs 13,000 calories a day to live. They'd probably seek out calorie-dense, nutrient-dense foods like fat and organ meat. Did centaurs exist before the mares (the herculean ones)? Kinda on topic, I've heard horses are way more likely to eat meat than their usual diet lets on. Like those deer that were eating people in the human farm
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You know it'd break down because the other fantasy Napoleonic soldiers would not be able resist the lure of just piling more and more of their loot and camp junk on their backs past regulation limit.
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