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De toute façon, c'était prévisible : Jupiter était un énorme connard.
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Kassad posted:De toute façon, c'était prévisible : Jupiter était un énorme connard. 
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https://twitter.com/d_schneidermann/status/1020157899807576064?s=19 loving LMAO
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Démolissons d'abord la Ve République; après, FIFA.
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my french is still weak, but this is saying that not only did collomb know shortly after this happened, but macron knew and tried to keep it from getting out and keep his little buddy from having to face any sort of justice right?
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Condiv posted:my french is still weak, but this is saying that not only did collomb know shortly after this happened, but macron knew and tried to keep it from getting out and keep his little buddy from having to face any sort of justice right? Yeah, that's the gist of it.
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It's not clear that they actively tried to cover it up (those videos have been around since May, from what I hear). But they did know about it (since they suspended the rear end in a top hat for a couple weeks) and failed to notify the police as the law requires them to. I'm mostly curious what role Benalla has that makes him valuable enough they wouldn't throw him under the bus at the time.
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I love this bus poo poo is what hosed up Macron's chances to gain popularity points.
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Kurtofan posted:wait i didnt follow the bus thing, what happened world cup celebrations were cut short making a lot of people mad for a hot minute
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The bus carrying the team went really fast down the Champs Élysées (it took them like 10 minutes to go down the whole boulevard) and the players said they'd have wanted it to drive slower or to pass by a second time so that they could properly greet the crowd because they'd been waiting for hours
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Reportedly it was because they'd gotten late and it would run against the 8pm news.
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Kassad posted:Reportedly it was because they'd gotten late and it would run against the 8pm news. Lmao what incompetent buffoons
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khwarezm posted:I don't know if this something anybody in France cares about but American Liberals seem to be all over the Trevor Noah/Gérard Araud tiff in a way that makes them seem more insufferable than usual. i just looked it up cause i hadn't heard of it till now, and I saw this article about it: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/19/17590302/trevor-noah-france-french-ambassador-araud-world-cup this article seems to masturbate a lot about the american subcultures retaining their identity, and shits on the idea of everyone who has french citizenship just being "french", but the idea of non-assimilation tolerance in america is just bs. only minorities hyphenate in the US. white people don't. If your parents are french and white and you are born in america, you're just an american, not a "french-american".Likewise, if your parents were black and french, and you were born in america, you're "african-american", not "french-american". moreover, if you're not black or white, then you can expect to hear "where are you from?" on a constant basis in america, even if you have a very typical accent for the area. and if you say "america", then the question will always come up "where are your parents from?"
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khwarezm posted:I don't know if this something anybody in France cares about but American Liberals seem to be all over the Trevor Noah/Gérard Araud tiff in a way that makes them seem more insufferable than usual. The french media has been talking about it yeah, and because of your post I figured I should actually read the articles and skim through the twitter debates and I got to experience intense Fremdschämen. I mean what the gently caress is this  You weren't kidding.
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Condiv posted:i just looked it up cause i hadn't heard of it till now, and I saw this article about it: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/19/17590302/trevor-noah-france-french-ambassador-araud-world-cup My favourite part about that article is how the author decides that Trevor Noah "won" the debate because Araud just re-stated his position in rebuttal. Like dude, that didn't make his point wrong. And yeah LOL at the way he makes it seem like America is a bastion for racial equality and a winning model everyone should follow.
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Trevor Noah is a really unfunny liberal, even by American tv standards
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Kurtofan posted:Trevor Noah is a really unfunny liberal, even by American tv standards
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Im just glad america is here to tell us how society should work, they're such a great example to follow
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Kurtofan posted:Im just glad america is here to tell us how society should work, they're such a great example to follow Is there a great example to follow? 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Is there a great example to follow? The inaltérable wonderland that is the French Fifth Republic. Duh.
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Kassad posted:The inaltérable wonderland that is the French Fifth Republic. Duh. Mais oui, bien sûr!
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Other fun facts: America, despite having the second highest Jewish population (not per capita necessarily, just raw quantity) in the world (France is 3rd), there's still a healthy dollop of anti-semitism despite being and overwhelmingly Christian country who worships a Jewish carpenter as the son of God. I'm also a Brit who lives in the US, and my favourite kind of discrimination is that people assume that any British accent is an affectation in order to get people to like you, sound more cultured or what have you. Nothing more fun to me than spending years being mocked, alienated and on several occasions almost physically beaten for speaking slightly differently than the surrounding population only to be told by Americans who've never left the country that my accent is clearly put on and I'm just doing it in order to get sex. In an admittedly weak defence of American society, anyone and everyone here who hasn't spent a long time in the US also needs to realise also that there are a lot of people in a country of 300+ million that don't perpetuate or accept racism and the like. I have a very cynical view of my adopted country of residence and freely admit that modern Britain is a festering pisshole of hatred for minorities, but I really want you to understand how many people are trying to make things better. Having said that, the one minority that America universally despises is the poor. Neoliberalism is the philosophy that the only good discrimination is economic discrimination. There may be a great deal of compassion for racial minorities and the like, but there is no significant trace of egalitarian economic policy or even compassion for the disenfranchised to be found here. The only two political parties of consequence here are "Poor people are lazy and so are blacks, which is why they are all poor" while the other is "It's wrong to hate a homeless black man for being black, but it's okay to hate him for being poor." This country despises the poor, even the so called "liberals". Economic discrimination is the one kind of discrimination here that everyone basically agrees is just fine. If you are getting flack for being an immigrant, black, a woman, a religious minority or the like, a lot of people will have your back, but poor people are universally lazy, stupid, corrupt, immoral and deserve all the misery that they get. The American leftist philosophy is that racism is a vile cultural construct - which I'm sure we'd all agree with - but poverty is a consequence of personal weakness and failings and not in any way the inevitable outcome of an economic system that concentrates wealth among those who need it the least, encourages people to applaud and emulate those who have amassed ludicrous amounts of wealth while millions suffer and demonizes the least powerful as lazy leeches on society rather than the victims that they are.
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JustJeff88 posted:Nothing more fun to me than spending years being mocked, alienated and on several occasions almost physically beaten for speaking slightly differently than the surrounding population only to be told by Americans who've never left the country that my accent is clearly put on and I'm just doing it in order to get sex. *And also end up on tv shows covering royal marriages. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jul 21, 2018 |
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Toplowtech posted:To be honest there are Americans who do that* but yeah shouldn't get heat for it. Sadly unlike us, you can't start talking another language to shut them up, it's only an accent. I actually do speak another language, but as I learned my French mostly in Canada I do it with a slight Canadian accent. Virtually nobody speaks it where I live regardless, so I almost never use it. I see your point, though, and I appreciate your support. Brits in general tend to be very self-deprecating, as do Jews... being both, I lean heavily on that and mix in a lot of British slang and the like for colour. It's a defence mechanism, but I've found over the years that if I take the piss out of myself, people are less likely to do it for me.
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JustJeff88 posted:Other fun facts: America, despite having the second highest Jewish population (not per capita necessarily, just raw quantity) in the world (France is 3rd), there's still a healthy dollop of anti-semitism despite being and overwhelmingly Christian country who worships a Jewish carpenter as the son of God. I'm also a Brit who lives in the US, and my favourite kind of discrimination is that people assume that any British accent is an affectation in order to get people to like you, sound more cultured or what have you. Nothing more fun to me than spending years being mocked, alienated and on several occasions almost physically beaten for speaking slightly differently than the surrounding population only to be told by Americans who've never left the country that my accent is clearly put on and I'm just doing it in order to get sex. this is how US racism works. being in france, it's a little shocking to me sometimes how people are open about their racism compared to even oklahoma, but that doesn't mean the racism is worse in france on its own. the US has gotten incredibly good at hiding racism as hating other things that are "perfectly ok" to hate. such as being poor. or being a criminal. two things that minorities are likely to be cause our economic and justice systems are set up to make criminals and poor people out of minority groups. yes, there are out and out racists in the US that will just say the bad words that make it obvious they're racists. but the smart ones have learned to keep that poo poo hidden behind closed doors and to oppress minority groups subtly. they've learned that if they do this, they can carry out their racism just fine without blowback Condiv fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jul 21, 2018 |
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Condiv posted:yes, there are out and out racists in the US that will just say the bad words that make it obvious they're racists. but the smart ones have learned to keep that poo poo hidden behind closed doors and to oppress minority groups subtly. they've learned that if they do this, they can carry out their racism just fine without blowback Basically, this: Lee Atwater posted:You start out in 1954 by saying, "friend of the family, friend of the family, friend of the family". By 1968 you can't say "friend of the family"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me—because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this", is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "friend of the family, friend of the family".
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JustJeff88 posted:Other fun facts: America, despite having the second highest Jewish population (not per capita necessarily, just raw quantity) in the world (France is 3rd), there's still a healthy dollop of anti-semitism despite being and overwhelmingly Christian country who worships a Jewish carpenter as the son of God. Antisemitism historically was and contemporaneously is mostly promoted by Christians, so I'm not sure what you find so uniquely American about it. 
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Condiv posted:this is how US racism works. being in france, it's a little shocking to me sometimes how people are open about their racism compared to even oklahoma, but that doesn't mean the racism is worse in france on its own. the US has gotten incredibly good at hiding racism as hating other things that are "perfectly ok" to hate. such as being poor. or being a criminal. two things that minorities are likely to be cause our economic and justice systems are set up to make criminals and poor people out of minority groups. I totally agree, but it goes beyond an excuse to harm racial minorities. Many of the people who support or advocate for policies that would disproportionately harm minorities do so in spite of the fact that it would harm their "superior" group as well or even them personally. It takes a hell of a commitment to a racist agenda to agree to do something that hurts oneself just because it presumably would harm a group that you hate more. Putting aside race, though, the US just despises the poor in a colourblind fashion; it is not always racially motivated. It's a combination of a capitalist dystopia that promotes ruthless individualism and the idea that money is a virtue combined with religious views that promote the Just World Fallacy and its non-secular cousin the Prosperity Gospel... again despite being in a country that greatly reveres a figure who constantly spoke out against the evils of accumulating wealth and being indifferent to the suffering of others. Absurd Alhazred posted:Antisemitism historically was and contemporaneously is mostly promoted by Christians, so I'm not sure what you find so uniquely American about it. I'm well aware of that, but being in the most populous and arguably the most "devout" Christian nation in the world which also happens to have the most Jews makes the irony even more dark.
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JustJeff88 posted:I'm well aware of that, but being in the most populous and arguably the most "devout" Christian nation in the world which also happens to have the most Jews makes the irony even more dark. I really don't see the irony. The most Jews is still, what, less than 10 millions in a country of 300 million?
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https://twitter.com/Nantes_Revoltee/status/1020798522902437888?s=19 And Le Pen did a publicity stunt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhOH5FpNmgU Kassad fucked around with this message at 09:04 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Genial, une bataille d'ego entre l'heritiere du chateau et le simplet en chef pendant que la valeur politique du titre de president part en miette. 
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Dans la serie foutage de gueule, apparament Facebook France a decidé de supprimer tout les articles de NordPresse couvrant l'affaire Benalla. Nordpresse est un site satirique belge.
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Y'all know how this is gonna end, right? It's going to go all the way up to Macron, and then they'll say "but the President is not legally responsible for anything he does"
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https://twitter.com/paul_denton/status/1021490366099480576?s=19 https://twitter.com/paul_denton/status/1021497124020731904?s=19 La République en YOLO
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"J'ai jamais vu une reaction aussi borné et suicidaire face à un scandale et je doute qu'on puisse faire pire!" Moi, grand naif, pendant l'affaire Fillon.
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