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Only way through those forts is as many combat engineers as you can send.
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Davin Valkri posted:I still think you should open the game as the Allies and figure out what the heck is going on "under the hood". It seems like the game has broken systemically since Jan 1944 at least. This doesn't actually work like you might think. The game will rerun the last turn if you open it up as the other side, and it will reposition hundreds of units in doing so. The reason for this is because the AI is allowed to "Cheat" task forces, supplies, and certain ground units into existence near the front lines. This saves the AI from needing to be programmed to pre-position ships and supplies to support its offensive plans, because it would be too much of a pushover otherwise. The end result is that what's going on "under the hood" is mostly a different game than what you'd see if you loaded in as the allied player.
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Jul 20, 2018 23:20
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Chunking Delenda Est
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Jul 20, 2018 23:36
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To be honest I don't know what you people were thinking with regards to Japanese strategic bombing and artillery and urban invasions.
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I was really hoping our boundless warrior spirit would make up for things like 'not enough bullets' and 'hundreds of thousands of dug in, angry soldiers'.
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19 July 1944 USS Flasher sinks the Japanese light cruiser Oi in the South China Sea.
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Grumio posted:Chunking Delenda Est
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Grey if you take chungking can you attack the Russians please. I feel like it would be appropriate for the Japanese to see themselves doing so well in this timeline they poke the bear again.
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   Fuel oils not important right?  They sail their battleship back into Rabaul – this time we have ships there to meet them – I think this one may be a loss, but we'll have to see how it plays out.  Another cruiser group takes out what looks to be their supply ship and escorts.  We smash a task force heading towards Truk.   I see no reason to stop the bombing.   Another invasion of wake begins.   Let's see how we did.  No points, so she still might be out there.
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  More landing craft burn at Wake  There is an inconclusive cruiser fight off Rabaul.  I land some more supplies at Manus.  Things continue to go well for Allied shipping.  Torpedoes get the job done. Yes, I have seen we have stuck a nine foot torpedo into a destroyer called Manlove. I deign not to comment.  I don't think many of these are making it home.  BURN! BURN YOU BASTARDS!  It's getting brutal out there.  That takes the allies past 25,000 points of shipping lost. In the entire Allied game I lost 25,073 points. They will have outstripped me in a matter of days! My total ship losses were 1598, the Allies as of today have lost 1709....
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2 torpedoes and a few shell hits shouldn't sink New Jersey, but would definitely slow her to a crawl. Also she's detached from her escorts. And yet no sign of her the next day?
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Jul 21, 2018 19:11
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My lucky ship  tell me the Takeo is going to survive her fight, I didn't see her listed as sunk.
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Jul 21, 2018 19:13
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If only Oi was converted into a torpedo cruiser. 
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Jul 21, 2018 19:19
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If you sank the Big J Grey I'm coming after you
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Jul 21, 2018 20:52
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Magni posted:2 torpedoes and a few shell hits shouldn't sink New Jersey, but would definitely slow her to a crawl. Also she's detached from her escorts. And yet no sign of her the next day? If both hits were long lances she's in trouble. If they were older 533mm torps she'll probably make port.
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Jul 21, 2018 21:18
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Oi vey, you should stop sinking!
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 Asehujiko and Reuben Sandwich
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Caconym posted:If both hits were long lances she's in trouble. If they were older 533mm torps she'll probably make port. I'm pretty certain they were long lances. I don't think IJN surface combatants even use older 533mm tubes anymore by this point.
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In one of my games the New Jersey took 7 air-dropped torpedoes and survive with 93 floatation damage. Luckily only a single hex from a friendly base. Months patching what could be patched at a tiny size-1 port with a small naval support unit helping, just to crawl at 7 knots toward Sydney instead of 3. Made it 1 hex from Sydney, only to go down two torps from an I-boat that slipped by the anti-sub group and escorts.
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Magni posted:I'm pretty certain they were long lances. I don't think IJN surface combatants even use older 533mm tubes anymore by this point. Not quite, as we have seen several Kamikaze-class running around with Grey's main task forces on occasion - which were never upgraded to the 610mm tubes - along with several other older classes also still being used in some role, but in this specific fight you're completely correct that it had to have been long lances.
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Jul 21, 2018 23:57
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Oh, I never saw you bagged an F-7 liberator. I'm pretty sure those are quite rare
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Jobbo_Fett posted:
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Oi sunk very close to her historical date. 20 July 1944 Destroyer HMS Isis sunk at anchor in the bay of the Seine, either by a mine or a human torpedo. German minesweeper M-20 sunk in the Gulf of Finland by Soviet aircraft. 21 July 1944 Minesweeper HMS Chamois also mined in the bay of the Seine. German minesweepers M-307 and M-413 sunk by RAF and Soviet aircraft respectively near Wilhelmshaven and Narva.
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Jul 22, 2018 03:39
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So it worth sallying out the cruisers and sending every plane on search and sweeps to see if you can find the Jersey before she gets away?
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Jul 22, 2018 03:59
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I agree. This is a take off every 'ZIG' situation.
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Flavius Aetass posted:I agree. This is a take off every 'ZIG' situation.
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Where is this game scenario that you receive German ships?
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benzine posted:Where is this game scenario that you receive German ships? it's called Ironman in the scenario list
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Yeah where was the air attack on the New Jersey? It was right at Rabaul. You can’t let it slip away.
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Even if it's limping, most of the disgusting AA guns the NJ is covered in will still be operational so getting air hits in seems highly unlikely and probably just a waste of planes as attacking it by air has been for the last several months. Just got done catching up about 2 years of posts over the last week, and there's still no sign of my lucky sub. Starting to think the captain got the sneaky part down to a master level, but not the... Warfare.
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Yeah I haven't seen much of the SS Salmon this LP either.
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  This looks like supplies coming ashore at Wake.  Bloody carriers.  South of Truk we take out some more shipping.  Let's hope this is an over optimistic report.  We take some losses hunting the New Jersey.  The men at Manus need more supplies!  While Operation Charnel House is over, I see no point in stopping the bombing.  Let's check out the Yamato!  That's not life threatening, but she needs to head to Japan for the dry docks.  It's a good news/bad news day!
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Jul 22, 2018 20:56
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That destroyer's Quality is unbeatable
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Hit by a single torpedo and lost AA on both sides.
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Grey Hunter posted:While Operation Charnel House is over, I see no point in stopping the bombing. Boo! Boo! Boo this man!
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goatface posted:Hit by a single torpedo and lost AA on both sides. IJN damage control.txt
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Grey Hunter posted:While Operation Charnel House is over, Is the part where Grey is forced to commit suicide because lacking warrior spirit and cowardice?
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Buffer guys, I change my mind.
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ITT the thread assassinates Grey Hunter over policy differences, in a stunning recreation of the IJA high command.
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Yes, excellent, the army will throw away tens of thousands more men on an ineffectual campaign while the navy racks up more glory with our battleships...
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