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As upstart Ocasio-Cortez hits campaign trail with Bernie Sanders, high profile spurs fears of Dem riftquote:To: McGruff quote:To: I want the USA back quote:Are people really going to vote against prosperity? quote:To: McGruff quote:
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From Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Modelquote:To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
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Jul 21, 2018 18:04
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Sarcastr0 posted:As upstart Ocasio-Cortez hits campaign trail with Bernie Sanders, high profile spurs fears of Dem rift Freep knows what to judge her on: quote:To: freedumb2003 quote:To: Right Brother; I want the USA back quote:Thank you...I keep hearing how pretty she is and it’s just not true. quote:She’s only comely relative to the usual fare from the Left, and then mostly due to photoshop and expensive cosmetics.
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Jul 21, 2018 19:18
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jojoinnit posted:Freep knows what to judge her on: 
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Jul 21, 2018 21:55
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Smeep posted:Yeah there were a few reddit/GA posts on that, mostly trolls but a bunch of people were like "this is how they prepare us/first they mock you/how brazen to just admit it like this" etc. Predictive programming: it’s not just for truthers any more.
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Jul 22, 2018 00:28
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Sarcastr0 posted:Are people really going to vote against prosperity? 
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Jul 22, 2018 01:00
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Zero_Grade posted:A gigantic, ever-expanding Well, when prosperity for you means "keeping your boot on the neck of the minority population even as the rich steal your wallet"...
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Jul 22, 2018 01:48
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WaPo Conservative: I Miss Obama And Would Take Him Back In A Nanosecondquote:To: antidemoncrat quote:To: antidemoncrat quote:To: antidemoncrat quote:To: immadashell quote:To: Lurkinanloomin quote:To: antidemoncrat quote:To: antidemoncrat
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Jul 22, 2018 22:53
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Right Wing Assault almost ran out of characters for his 'kill list:'quote:('Kill'-google,TWITR,FACEBK,WaPo,Hollywd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antifa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA)
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Jul 22, 2018 23:29
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HOW MANY WHITE PEOPLE DIED FROM THE KNOCKOUT GAME I mean the game wasn't actually real, but like 5?
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Jul 23, 2018 00:35
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I don't think any died, it was just 5 people got punched.
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Jul 23, 2018 00:56
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One dude at least was knocked the gently caress out.
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Jul 23, 2018 02:16
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I wonder if any "Knockout Game" stuff happened before it became a right-wing meme and stuff, or if the idea was spawned and put out there by FOX and co and thus the few real incidents are all indirectly their fault?
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Jul 23, 2018 02:31
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None ever happened. Random assaults are not a conspiracy against white people but they need to believe theyre targeted
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Jul 23, 2018 02:39
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Roland Jones posted:I wonder if any "Knockout Game" stuff happened before it became a right-wing meme and stuff, or if the idea was spawned and put out there by FOX and co and thus the few real incidents are all indirectly their fault? There's several layers to that. Young adults going around just being pointlessly violent to people, knocking them out or severely injuring them, has totally been around a very long time. Since portable video recording has been a thing, a small subset of the kind of people who go around being violent have been recording themselves doing it and even sharing it. The "happy slapping" variant had been reported in Britain from the early 2000s, even though there was only a rather small group straight up participating in it, and is very nearly identical to the "knockout game" stuff that started being reported in the US media in the early 2010s. Also reported in a bunch of other countries like France that made it an additional crime to have done an assault for the purposes of posting that stuff online. But when modern right wingers are ranting about the knockout game, it's that it's all the minorities doing it to white people, and its happening hundreds of times a day all over the country, with like thousands upon thousands of people getting attacked each year. This stuff never happened in the first place. So basically it never happened as they said it, cuz they drop in a ton of racism to it and massively up the number of incidents. But there is a real phenomena below it which has happened and been rare ever since "record your crime and show it around" has been possible.
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Jul 23, 2018 02:42
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fishmech posted:There's several layers to that. Oh, of course. Violence and assholes on social media and stuff have existed as long as, well, life and social media, respectively. Obviously there isn't any real major effort to assault random white people for the crime of being white conservatives or whatever; I didn't mean to imply that, or that their persecution complex has any legitimacy to it, sorry. I was just thinking, after someone above posted that there were maybe five incidents or so, I wouldn't be surprised if those only happened after the whole panic about the "Knockout Game" was created by right-wingers and whatnot, putting the idea out there. Basically, that they created the "Knockout Game" name and whatnot, and any incidents of what you referred to as "happy slapping" there actually getting called the "Knockout Game" by the person doing them (rather than conservatives applying it to random news stories or things they made up) was because the name made it to them, directly or indirectly, from the RWM, and maybe even one or two of the incidents (assuming they're real; looking up again, that was a post with no actual sources, so taking it at face value might have been a mistake) themselves were inspired by it. Sorry, my phrasing is off today; still kind of recovering from being sick and such. My basic line of thought was: "Yeah, the Knockout Game is bullshit FOX and the like made up." > *reads post* > "Huh there were actually a few not-made-up incidents? Really?" > "I wonder if any of those happened because right-wingers made the Knockout Game out to actually be a thing." Then I posted, which, as with almost all posting, was a mistake and poorly thought-out. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 03:14
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Roland Jones posted:I wonder if any "Knockout Game" stuff happened before it became a right-wing meme and stuff, or if the idea was spawned and put out there by FOX and co and thus the few real incidents are all indirectly their fault? In my high school (and every other high school in the area), we had "Cracker Knockout Day" where if you were white, you were targeted to get knocked out. It was never in a fight, someone would always just try to blindside you, knocking you out, then they'd just go about their day; like, you'd come out of the bathroom and wake up on the floor with no clue what happened. The knockout game is real, I can personally attest to that, but it's generally confined to teenagers being idiots. Anyone who claims it's bigger than that needs to step away from Fox for a while.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:18
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Roland Jones posted:Oh, of course. Violence and assholes on social media and stuff have existed as long as, well, life and social media, respectively. Obviously there isn't any real major effort to assault random white people for the crime of being white conservatives or whatever; I meant to imply that, or that their persecution complex has any legitimacy to it, sorry. The name was itself around before right wing news latched onto it and tried to make it all about ~white genocide~. Like I said, it's the exact same thing behind the UK's happy slapping and other country names for it - it became possible for random violent kids to record them doing crimes on their cell phone and show it around Bebo and Myspace and whatever. I suppose that by now there's kids doing it who know to call it "knockout game" from right wing scaremongering, but they'd have been doing it or considering it before they heard that name from there. Most of the people involved in the actual videos aren't calling it by name in their videos in the first place.
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Jul 23, 2018 03:23
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fishmech posted:The name was itself around before right wing news latched onto it and tried to make it all about ~white genocide~. Like I said, it's the exact same thing behind the UK's happy slapping and other country names for it - it became possible for random violent kids to record them doing crimes on their cell phone and show it around Bebo and Myspace and whatever. Makes sense; that seemed like the most likely possibility to me, a few random incidents being made into REVERSE RACISM by idiots and opportunists, but given how stupid, fake stories from the Internet make their way into the general right-wing sphere and even onto places like FOX sometimes (see: Pizzagate, which unless I'm mistaken started on 4chan), it seemed possible to me that even the name was entirely a construction of theirs. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 03:30
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Zipperelli. posted:In my high school (and every other high school in the area), we had "Cracker Knockout Day" where if you were white, you were targeted to get knocked out. It was never in a fight, someone would always just try to blindside you, knocking you out, then they'd just go about their day; like, you'd come out of the bathroom and wake up on the floor with no clue what happened. Is there some idiotic lottery of babylon type virus spreading lately?
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Jul 23, 2018 04:33
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Zipperelli. posted:In my high school (and every other high school in the area), we had "Cracker Knockout Day" where if you were white, you were targeted to get knocked out. It was never in a fight, someone would always just try to blindside you, knocking you out, then they'd just go about their day; like, you'd come out of the bathroom and wake up on the floor with no clue what happened. copy paste this to freep someone
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Jul 23, 2018 05:33
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LeoMarr posted:copy paste this to freep someone On the one hand: don't touch the poop. On the other: 
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Jul 23, 2018 05:54
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No really don't touch the poop. That's like the only rule for the freep thread.
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Jul 23, 2018 07:45
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Captain Monkey posted:Is there some idiotic lottery of babylon type virus spreading lately? Why would you ask that? I'm being entirely sincere. One of the high schools I attended where this happened was a majority minority school, and the white kids got picked on mercilessly. I mean, its lovely, but thats what happened. The teachers were all well aware of this "holiday" as well, threatening punishment every year but nothing ever coming of it. If you notice though, I also said this was just a result of some kids being violent idiots, not some widespread pandemic of knockout gangs roaming around trying to make good on their name.
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Jul 23, 2018 08:25
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Is that a catheter bag under Hillary Clinton's loose clothing? American Thinker ^ | 07/22/2018 | Monica Showalter quote:To: SeekAndFind quote:To: butlerweave quote:To: C210N quote:To: SeekAndFind quote:To: SeekAndFind quote:To: Dilbert San Diego quote:To: SeekAndFind quote:To: SeekAndFind quote:To: mywholebodyisaweapon quote:To: tomkat
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Jul 23, 2018 09:32
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"Why don't women vote for us?"
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Jul 23, 2018 09:35
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Erenthal posted:"Why don't women vote for us?" They don't think women should be allowed to vote at all.
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Jul 23, 2018 12:55
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For some reason, it's the little things about Freep that I really enjoy. I smiled at the guy who thought that Mitt Romney and John McCain were designated losers who were colluding with the Democratic Party to establish a fiction to legitimize the usurpation of the United States by a Kenyan agent, including massive financial collusion between the two political parties and fabricating/rigging the vote in dozens of states, but also accepts that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016.
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Jul 23, 2018 15:35
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:I smiled at the guy who thought that Mitt Romney and John McCain were designated losers who were colluding with the Democratic Party to establish a fiction to legitimize the usurpation of the United States by a Kenyan agent, including massive financial collusion between the two political parties and fabricating/rigging the vote in dozens of states, but also accepts that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016. I read that post 4-5 times. It's a really solid wall of crazy. "McCain and Romney were willing Designated Losers." Followed a couple lines later by "Obama wasn't supposed to win against McCain" Of course in between those : "W was a designated loser." And they almost pulled it off, if it weren't for that pesky Supreme Court. It's like those people that wander around muttering about being gangstalked, but the deep state swamp is their boogeyman.
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Jul 23, 2018 17:10
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"trot neocon"
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Jul 23, 2018 17:11
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I cannot think of two more separate political theories. I'm relatively certain these are wide enough apart to span the great majority, if not the whole, of political theory between them.
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Jul 23, 2018 17:13
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Potato Salad posted:I cannot think of two more separate political theories. I'm relatively certain these are wide enough apart to span the great majority, if not the whole, of political theory between them.
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Jul 23, 2018 18:11
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FMguru posted:Not completely insane - a lot of the big name early neocons actually were college Trotskyites before switching teams. I'm intrigued. Got an example I can go read a little about?
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Jul 23, 2018 18:16
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Potato Salad posted:I'm intrigued. Got an example I can go read a little about? Irving Kristol - "received his B.A. from the City College of New York in 1940, where he majored in history and was part of a small but vocal Trotskyist anti-Soviet group who eventually became The New York Intellectuals."
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Jul 23, 2018 18:23
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Potato Salad posted:I'm intrigued. Got an example I can go read a little about? Irving Kristol, father of the perennial wrong Bill Kristol is the most prominent example I can think of.
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Jul 23, 2018 18:23
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Christopher Hitchens was also a Trot for a little while before going full neocon around 2003. He had some other positions in between though.
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Jul 23, 2018 18:54
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Luigi's Discount Porn Bin posted:Christopher Hitchens was also a Trot for a little while before going full neocon around 2003. He had some other positions in between though. 9/11 broke a lot of brains Before trump I would have guessed nothing could have broken more brains
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Jul 23, 2018 18:59
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It's a little more complicated, but the short Trotskyism -> Neoconservatism line (other than many former Trots becoming Neocons) is basically this: The central tenet of Trotskyism is the idea of a "permanent revolution," which explained how countries without advanced capitalism/industry (because a central tenet of Marx's original writing was that communism would happen first in the largest and most industrialized countries because they would inevitably exploit their workers and that would be the "trigger" for starting communism) could transition to full communism. Marx thought that there had to be transitionary phases where it went: Peasentry -> Feudalism -> Capitalism -> Advanced Capitalism -> Socialist Revolution -> Dictatorship of the Proletariat/Vanguard Class -> Full Communism/Elimination of State Trotskyists thought that by providing outside assistance to non-advanced countries, they could skip from Feudalism straight to the Dictatorship of the Proletariat/Vanguard Class. After communism as an economic theory more or less died out, many Trotskyists maintained the central tenet of a "permanent revolution" and the idea that outside assistance could help countries transition much more quickly to an end-game without requiring decades of slow decay before they were ready for large-scale political/social/economic change. Some of the founding fathers of Neoconservatism were former Trotskyists and they kept this principle and applied it to their new theory: That outside force can assist countries in transitioning away from dictatorships and sectarian states into democracies. The transition to democracy will require a more egalitarian economic and social outlook (because once you aren't ruling as a dictatorship or sectarian leader, you will need to appeal to a large group of people and at least not entirely alienate everyone and motivate them to oppose you). Once the vast majority of the countries in the world are on the same page in terms of liberal democracy and individual rights, then there won't be artificial barriers to cooperation and forced separation (communism vs. capitalism or sectarian group vs. other sectarian group inherently divides people and won't allow for large-scale cooperation), which will allow for global cooperation and coordination and a dramatic increase in global peace and wealth. That falls pretty closely in line with the Trotskyist thinking, except that the Trots wanted to establish a global communist state with the elimination of class and state or, at the very least, a global Dictatorship of Proletariat/Vanguard Class. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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Jul 23, 2018 19:28
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Sarcastr0 posted:To: tomkat No, she's not. And no, it doesn't look like she does. Funny how these guys used to berate obvious gold diggers, but not this one. They praise her for it
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Jul 23, 2018 19:41
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Speaking of Trotskyite "permanent revolution", here's the cover of the first issue of the neocon magazine WEEKLY STANDARD (founded by Bill Kristol, among others) from 1995: They weren't real subtle about hiding their Trot roots.
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Jul 23, 2018 19:49
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