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Regalingualius posted:That kind of reminds me: has it been stated where the vampire actually comes from? By that I mean, did he already exist before Durkon was vamped, or was he custom-created by Hel? The last pages of Blood Runs in the Family imply he was custom created by Hel for his purpose.
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Regalingualius posted:That kind of reminds me: has it been stated where the vampire actually comes from? By that I mean, did he already exist before Durkon was vamped, or was he custom-created by Hel? There was also a more recent page that confirms he was custom made: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1007.html
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Maybe one of the dead miner's family members that they got after being revived (one of them seemed to be married and have a kid) will turn out to have a mass dispell? 
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Have we seen vampire versions of the people durkons mum got raised? E: stunt grammar sebmojo fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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mmkay posted:There was also a more recent page that confirms he was custom made: that page even says the vampire could reject hel's plan, so maybe we will see an about face.
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sebmojo posted:Have we seen vampire versions of the people durkons mum got raised? I think that'd have gotten a reaction from Durkon, so probably not.
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Roy's unconsciousness makes this harder to see happening, but it seems like the conversation between Roy and the High Priest of Thor should become important some time soon. Rich basically spends two whole panels showing us Checkov's Pardon there, it seems unlikely to be a throwaway.
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Gally posted:that page even says the vampire could reject hel's plan, so maybe we will see an about face. Yeah, but I'd bet a lot of gold that Durkula was just lying to make Durkon feel worse there.
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Jul 23, 2018 14:32
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This is actually a bit of an emotional rollercoaster.
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I think we should take everything Yurkon says with a grain of salt, because it represents his worldview rather than any technical truths about vampires. I very much doubt he'll ever reject Hel's plan because he was literally created by Hel for the sole purpose of fulfilling her scheme. If you've ever read the discussion threads on the OotS forum, half the discussion about this latest strip is talking about how vampire Belkar would be a badass vampire slayer because his worst experience was watching Durkon get turned into a vampire, even though the punchline of the strip is Yurkon learning that his worldview is patently false. I don't know how much of the discussion threads Rich actually reads, but it must be extremely draining.
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He's said a while ago that he tries to avoid reading speculation, because someone getting it right makes him want to change things. I'm sure that's a convenient excuse for "every time I read my forums, I want to delete them".
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there's also the fact that the strips that follow yurkon talking about how hes actually just a dark shadow of durkons soul consist of roy beating the everloving poo poo out of durkon while talking about how the vampire and durkon are actually completely unrelated to one another so that's probably a point for that camp
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Jul 23, 2018 15:22
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I stopped reading the Oots forums a long time ago, I get everything I would want to get from them here in smaller more manageable doses just fine.
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Jul 23, 2018 15:56
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The only reason to go to the GITP forums is to reference the class/level geekery post, and that's only if you're playing the "see if the comic is internally consistent with D&D rules" game or similar grognardery.
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Jul 23, 2018 15:58
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Have Roy's attacks missed at a rate proportional to his Targets' armor class, a Bayesian factor analysis pg 1 of 25,484
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Gwyneth Palpate posted:The only reason to go to the GITP forums is to reference the class/level geekery post, and that's only if you're playing the "see if the comic is internally consistent with D&D rules" game or similar grognardery. To be fair basing a story on an established set of rules that everyone interested in the story understands on a broad level is a pretty neat trick at paving over some of the worst potential issues regarding high fantasy regarding deus ex machina's; the grognardary serves a useful role for both the audience and the writer as a time saving measure. I think like around half of the original Fate/Stay Night visual novel was dedicated to explaining the setting just so they could break all of those rules in the adequately dramatic moments.
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IS there a statue of limitations on casting a res? If you had the Twin Paradox thing where Twin A died, accident or war, and Twin B, for whatever reason, took decades to get A ressed, would Twin A be the same age as when he died the first time? Could you dig someone up thats been dead 300 years and res them?
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Johnny Aztec posted:IS there a statue of limitations on casting a res? Johnny Aztec posted:If you had the Twin Paradox thing where Twin A died, accident or war, and Twin B, for whatever reason, took decades to get A ressed, would Twin A be the same age as when he died the first time? Johnny Aztec posted:Could you dig someone up thats been dead 300 years and res them?
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Mystic Mongol posted:Depends on the res. Raise dead is a day per caster level. Reinarnate is a flat week. Resurrection is a decade per caster level. And they didn't die of old age. ... Do you age while dead?
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ikanreed posted:And they didn't die of old age. No, you decompose.
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Jul 23, 2018 16:45
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use a phoenix down on xykon
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Raenir Salazar posted:To be fair basing a story on an established set of rules that everyone interested in the story understands on a broad level is a pretty neat trick at paving over some of the worst potential issues regarding high fantasy regarding deus ex machina's; the grognardary serves a useful role for both the audience and the writer as a time saving measure. Oh, I'm not saying it's a bad thing. It's the primary gimmick of the comic, after all. What I was trying to say is that the comic's fun enough in its own right that needing to derive enjoyment from checking its internal consistency isn't really necessary.
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i like the D&D aspect of the comic, both because it lends itself well to the cool kind of group set piece fights that rich loves so much, and it's something fun and easy to riff on when ever rich needs an end of comic joke
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http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1129.html here we go
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Jul 23, 2018 18:32
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Rich is on a goddamn roll with these updates
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Callback to this: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0084.html
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Cat Mattress posted:Callback to this: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0084.html Wow, this is all coming together beautifully. Thanks to all the people posting links to all the past comics that cover the hints for what's going on here!
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This is fantastic, and I really like how Durkon in the memory is the one arguing for selfishness because it shows just how much understanding what his mother did changed him and his outlook on life.Shaking lemur butt posted:Rich is on a goddamn roll with these updates If you're a writer who has been thinking about a story for a long time, running scenes over and over inside your head, refining them, getting them out and onto a page is a lot easier than filling in the gaps between Big Scene A and Big Scene B. That's probably a large reason why these recent strips are coming faster. EDIT: Beaten Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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That, and he's done with the work on the latest book.
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Rich pretty much always puts a bunch of comics out rapidly when it's near a really big plot or character moment.
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Soup du Jour posted:gently caress this is excellent Genuine chills reading that.
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Goddammit, I know we're in an obvious "I waited until the rest of the book was finished before releasing any of the strips and now they're going to come out at a fairly crisp pace" period here, but goddammit! Put out the next strip now!
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yeah i got goosebumps when durkon's mom and dad were reaching out for each other, and durkons dad just had this brave confident smile on his face even though he knew he was going to die poo poo is beautiful man
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Cat Mattress posted:Callback to this: http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0084.html What's really interesting is that Durkon apparently took away the wrong lesson from his mom all those years ago. Going by what he's telling Hilgya in that old strip, he apparently thought his mother meant that he should ignore his feelings because doing one's duty is far more important. But the context of what she's telling him in the memory is that he should ignore his selfish desires and impulses so that he can do good by others, even if he gets nothing back in return. God, I can't wait for the next update. Also, something else that occurred to me the other day - Durkon's mom is responsible for cheating Hel out of five souls. So what better revenge to take on Durkon's mom than cursing her son (a cleric of Thor, no less!) with the destiny that he'll bring death and destruction that delivers the souls of all the dwarven people right to Hel?
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I hope Durkon is expelled from Yurkon and they fist fight in a garbage dump.
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But enough about my Friday nights.
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A.I. Borgland Corp posted:I hope Durkon is expelled from Yurkon and they fist fight in a garbage dump. Can I get a Hel yeah?
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Charlie Bobson posted:yeah i got goosebumps when durkon's mom and dad were reaching out for each other, and durkons dad just had this brave confident smile on his face even though he knew he was going to die Perhaps the reason she never wanted her arm restored was because it was still holding her husband's hand.
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bartolimu posted:Roy's unconsciousness makes this harder to see happening, but it seems like the conversation between Roy and the High Priest of Thor should become important some time soon. Rich basically spends two whole panels showing us Checkov's Pardon there, it seems unlikely to be a throwaway. "Hela may have created me, but she shaped me to fit perfectly in the hole in your heart." "What good does it do?" "I would not venture a guess, but it is true. And the truth always has a use."
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