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robotsinmyhead posted:Not sure this is the right place to ask, but LOTRO feels pretty dead (I realized the OP is like 4 years old). And while still a pretty good game, I'd like something a bit more active. Are there any good primarily PvE MMOs with active goon guilds running on them? Guild Wars 2, Elder Scrolls Online and Final Fantasy seem like the big ones other than WoW. LOTRO will probably pick up again once the next content patch comes out.
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robotsinmyhead posted:Not sure this is the right place to ask, but LOTRO feels pretty dead (I realized the OP is like 4 years old). And while still a pretty good game, I'd like something a bit more active. Are there any good primarily PvE MMOs with active goon guilds running on them? FFXIV has a large goon population and is probably only second to WoW for overall popularity. I play a lot of FFXIV and it is very PvE - story focused with a nice dungeon queue system; the way it handles different classes is nice too (you just have one character and you can change between classes freely once you hit level 15), however it is a monthly subscription game. Elder Scrolls Online's thread is pretty active and I've heard good things about the game. It's my understanding it is a buy the retail package and no monthly fees unless you want extra perks model. I played GW2 for a while but I felt like there was no good PvE endgame, maybe things have changed? There's a pretty good goon population there.
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kzin602 posted:FFXIV has a large goon population and is probably only second to WoW for overall popularity. I play a lot of FFXIV and it is very PvE - story focused with a nice dungeon queue system; the way it handles different classes is nice too (you just have one character and you can change between classes freely once you hit level 15), however it is a monthly subscription game. Can confirm re FFXIV--LOTRO was my first love but FFXIV is where I spend most of my MMO time these days (now that I finally hit Kindred with the new factions I've just been logging in on Wednesday to do the Rust and Rime quest). In particular the Main Story Quest (FFXIV's equivalent of the Epic Quests) is very well done, especially in the recent expansions. Each class (including crafters and gatherers--FFXIV has an incredibly deep crafting system) also has generally pretty good quest chains as you level. Unlike LOTRO, FFXIV has an auto-queuing system for group content which works well and is actually used by the player base, and they've cleverly set up the incentive structure at endgame so it actually rewards people for grouping with new players doing content for the first time, which tends to make people pretty friendly and patient with new people. I should also point out that there's a free trial with no time limit which allows you to level as many classes up to 35 on one character as you want, so you can try it at your own pace without committing to anything. IMO the first really outstanding piece of group content is at level 34 so this should give you a good taste of what's to come. (I also played about 20 hours of ESO but didn't get into it that much--the open world thing where you just wander around picking up content as you stumble upon it didn't really work for me. Can't speak to the endgame scene there.)
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I might wake ESO back up. I bought it on its original release and it was supermechadogshit, but it looks way better now. Not really interested in FF-anything - the JRPG vibe is a massive turnoff. Played the original GuildWars too and it was very PvP-centric lategame as well. I just don't like PvP with that much effort put into it, didn't dig it in WoW, just not my thing outside of shooters or racing.
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robotsinmyhead posted:I might wake ESO back up. I bought it on its original release and it was supermechadogshit, but it looks way better now. You can completely ignore pvp in Guild Wars 2, the PVE is more fleshed out than in the original. Has dungeons and raids and zone wide events at endgame. Similar to ESO in that regard.
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robotsinmyhead posted:Not sure this is the right place to ask, but LOTRO feels pretty dead (I realized the OP is like 4 years old). And while still a pretty good game, I'd like something a bit more active. Are there any good primarily PvE MMOs with active goon guilds running on them? Lotro is now just a fiddle simulator. You'd have to be nuts to do all the grinding needed for PvE.
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robotsinmyhead posted:I might wake ESO back up. I bought it on its original release and it was supermechadogshit, but it looks way better now. FFXIV plays like WoW and Lotro, there's no JRPG gameplay DNA in there.
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kzin602 posted:FFXIV plays like WoW and Lotro, there's no JRPG gameplay DNA in there. You apparently haven't seen the graphics.
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Or the cutscenes.
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Graphics and cutscenes are gameplay?
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xZAOx posted:Graphics and cutscenes are gameplay? No, but the gameplay wasn't the problem the original comment was referring to. A game doesn't have to play like a JRPG to feel like one. I gave FFXIV a whirl recently and uninstalled entirely because the outfits are such godawful JRPG eyesores.
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Hello Sailor posted:No, but the gameplay wasn't the problem the original comment was referring to. A game doesn't have to play like a JRPG to feel like one. I gave FFXIV a whirl recently and uninstalled entirely because the outfits are such godawful JRPG eyesores. I tried to stomach it too but the aesthetics were too much for me. Also the cat people are just laughably terrible. The underlying game was decent.
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Funny, I felt the same way about WoW's graphics (they were literally painful to look at and I only managed to play the game for like 2 hours), but don't mind FFXIV's. Different strokes for different folks.
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Mordor is 30% off and this finally includes the base edition, lotro.com and click market it's $27.99 It's also a welcome back weekend so all kills/quests/etc give 25% bonus EXP, have fun bagrada posted:Does that come with the level boost? Yep, every version does unless you buy it in the in game store for points, then it does not. I've still got my boost six months later, so let me know if you boost and which class and maybe I'll finally use mine, welcome back weekend would be a good time for it. extra stout fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jul 19, 2018 |
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If someone were insane enough to come back to this game and want to solo through all the old content, would a Loremaster work or would they need to play a Warden or something OP like that? I saw a video of a 100 warden fighting the watcher in the water alone and he still got hit pretty hard. I did the vanilla content on my dwarf guardian up until it required a group in Angmar as my friends all rerolled alts or went back to EQ2/WoW. I then came back years later, did the newly soloable Angmar stuff and did the extra vanilla areas (forochel, evendim) that were added in before expansion packs, and then did Moria right up to the gates. Left off there at level 57, having ground out most of the deeds for the zones up to that point and my class. So of course now I'm thinking about coming back and starting over with the class I always wanted to play but couldn't because my fellowship needed a tank. extra stout posted:Mordor is 30% off and this finally includes the base edition, lotro.com and click market it's $27.99 Does that come with the level boost?
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There's a huge boost in survivability from 100 to 115. I soloed the Rift and the Erebor and Osgilliath instance clusters on my Hunter as well as the first few Pelennor instances, and any tankier class will have an easier time. There are a few mechanics (e.g. in Ost Dunhoth) which make some content impossible to solo, unfortunately.
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Thanks, I will check it out. I always wanted to at least see what they did with Moria so maybe I can take a boosted char around sightseeing a bit for my nostalgia kick. I searched on twitch the other night to try to find someone playing through Mordor or something so I could see how things have changed and could only find someone running pies around the Shire. Good times.
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The Eriador Bundle is 75% off this week. This is basically everything pre-Moria. I don't think the price has ever been lower.
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They're trying to retain people thinking of going back to WoW, I guess. Characters get exponentially more powerful at 106, and equipment as well. Importantly, you can breeze through level 105 skirmishes (maybe other content too?) for decent rewards for several levels after you get to 106.
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I missed this game. Spent half an hour clearing out my inventory and bank on my 56 dwarf guardian then it's off to finally see Moria. As soon as I stop off in Misty Mountains for a delivery quest I apparently missed (thought I was done there in 2015). *Hours of running around goblin town, killing werewolves and finding secret bandit goblin bases in the hilltops later* Maybe I'll get to Moria next time. I should probably go somewhere the welcome back xp boost would help. Trying to decide on my alt. Got a high elf warden started who plays a bit too close to guardian, but with the ragged armor looks just like my badass dark souls 3 herald. After today's gameplay refresher in the mountains I definitely want run speed and ports for my sanity. bagrada fucked around with this message at 08:17 on Jul 22, 2018 |
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Hunter is the easiest for fast traveling everywhere, though it will ruin you for other classes in that regard. But I always recommend Beorning for alts because reasons.
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Hunter can travel everywhere and is ridiculously powerful especially at earlier levels. Redline minstrel also burns things down fast and has good survivability. If it matters to you, because they burn mobs so quickly they're great choices for getting the early zone deeds which can earn a good amount of LP.
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Thanks for the heads up about the Mordor sale. I finally bought it. It said I hadn't logged in over a year  .Man, this reminds me of why I hate returning to MMOs, heh. Especially any that isn't WoW (the community support just isn't there). I threw some trait points in, not really knowing what I'm doing. I kept blue line hunter because I like being able to move, and it's how my LIs are set up, but I know that fairly recently the meta changed back to redline (yet again). Last time they swapped it, it pissed me off, because you can't easily / cheaply swap out legacies. I'll probably just plow along on blue doing overland poo poo anyways. Glad to see my time away hasn't seen any improvements - the game still has "jitters" pretty often, and when you first log in (or get back from a session play) your HP is almost nothing still. Anywhos, just got to the first Mordor camp. Can't wait to see how long it takes before I get my poo poo pushed in. Morder is still brutal until you get gear, right?
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Ossipago posted:Hunter is the easiest for fast traveling everywhere, though it will ruin you for other classes in that regard. I haven't looked at Beorning much, I'm already tired of bear form after playing a druid alt in WoW. Finally got my dwarf guardian from beta into Moria proper. Painful running around without a ram mount which I see people using to get around. I'm assuming I need to finish the faction grind or do a bunch of deeds for one and by then I'll probably be about done with the place. I thought for a while about grabbing Mordor during this sale, using the aria boost, and exploring backwards to see the sights, but that kinda defeats the purpose. I'll get there eventually if they don't shut the game down. I might see how far south I can ride my guardian for the hell of it though, I miss exploring above my weight class like the good old days in EQ1.
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Mordor tends to suck pretty quickly. Level 106 gear is much better than 105, and you need stuff with light to counteract the zone-wide shadow debuff. The only way to get it is to quest at first, I think. If you can, find a buddy and it will be much more bearable.
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bagrada posted:Finally got my dwarf guardian from beta into Moria proper. Painful running around without a ram mount which I see people using to get around. I'm assuming I need to finish the faction grind or do a bunch of deeds for one and by then I'll probably be about done with the place. Any goat can be ridden in Moria including the classic Thorin's Hall goat, you barter for it after hitting max rep with them. If you already did all related quests back there you can do deeds and loot rep items in Sarnúr, you can also just buy those off the auction or barter for them at any skirmish camp. https://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Thorin%27s_Hall_(Reputation) I think I've given all of mine out but it's very quick and easy to farm, let me know if you want some help. Send a letter to Grodhir in game and add me to friends.
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Glass of Milk posted:Mordor tends to suck pretty quickly. Level 106 gear is much better than 105, and you need stuff with light to counteract the zone-wide shadow debuff. The only way to get it is to quest at first, I think. If you can, find a buddy and it will be much more bearable. One other alternative I've heard of is to ask for a port to the Court of Seregoth to discover it, and then join a set of 105 CoS runs.
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Following one of the first questlines in Moria will get you a free goat by the time you get to Dolven View.
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Oh - can one walk into Mount Doom now? Will be a bit before I could test it out myself. Just wondering if all of that was there open world, or if it's all invisible walled off and poo poo, and you only get to explore it in the instances. Hoping you could walk all the way in, LOTRO is usually pretty good about that stuff.
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I want to know if a level cap loremaster, captain, hunter, champion and warden can escort 4 level 1 hobbits from the shire to mount doom on foot. edit - as opposed to running into "you must be level 40 to enter Moria" type lockouts, or having to grind rep with rohan to get through, or having the hobbits all drop dead from fear somewhere like what the line of statues in Angmar used to do before you progressed enough to be able to pass by them. bagrada fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Jul 23, 2018 |
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bagrada posted:I want to know if a level cap loremaster, captain, hunter, champion and warden can escort 4 level 1 hobbits from the shire to mount doom on foot. Oh my sweet summer child. Let me tell you about Chicken Runs. (Realistically you'd want more like 20 people rather than 5.)
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bagrada posted:I want to know if a level cap loremaster, captain, hunter, champion and warden can escort 4 level 1 hobbits from the shire to mount doom on foot. jalapeno_dude posted:Oh my sweet summer child. Let me tell you about Chicken Runs. Looks like someone already did a chicken run to Mt Doom, so escorting some Hobbits should be easy. https://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?657434-Mordor-Chicken-Run&s=38d341c9ab6b7c5da07574c11c4d8238
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If there's not an achievement for walking to Mordor, I'm going to be very disappointed.
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Hello Sailor posted:If there's not an achievement for walking to Mordor, I'm going to be very disappointed. If you call spending $130 an achievement, then you won't be disappointed: http://store.turbine.com/store/turbine/en_US/custom/pbpage.lotro-mordor (comes with exclusive "Walked Into Mordor" title)
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Looks like you can get it in the $80 tier, too. A huge savings!
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extra stout posted:I think I've given all of mine out but it's very quick and easy to farm, let me know if you want some help. Send a letter to Grodhir in game and add me to friends. Thanks I will take a look next time I'm on, I think I'm a friend to thorins hall and haven't quested there on my guardian since 07 so maybe there's some new or revamped quests to do in addition to the tasks. bentacos posted:Following one of the first questlines in Moria will get you a free goat by the time you get to Dolven View. I was two quests away from this one though it's around half as fast as the other goats it's still better than nothing for a start. Thanks.
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I'm sitting on 30K store currency again from the free monthly coins. I'm gonna buy Mordor, High Elves and maybe some inventory slots (has there been a Summer Sale discount on them so far ?). This still leaves me a ton of coins, is there something I can buy for the goon guild ? 
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If there's anyone around who can invite my guardian to the kin, I'll be on for a few more hours tonight and probably this same time tomorrow. Name's Grunehilde.
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Hello Sailor posted:If there's anyone around who can invite my guardian to the kin, I'll be on for a few more hours tonight and probably this same time tomorrow. Name's Grunehilde. Seems I missed you but I've got you on my friends list for next time Hammerstein posted:I'm sitting on 30K store currency again from the free monthly coins. I'm gonna buy Mordor, High Elves and maybe some inventory slots (has there been a Summer Sale discount on them so far ?). No but thanks again for giving so much towards the kinhall. They currently have the feature of paying a few mithril coins to mail bound to account items to others turned off to deal with gold spammers. If you need gold I know there are still some work arounds, I think the old one was universal solvents don't bind when bought from the store but check first of course. And welcome back! extra stout fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Jul 27, 2018 |
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